gimil wrote:On my points about scrolls and minimaps, I would rather go into later (not go to much time for now so I will stick with the colours first)
Thats fair enough Gimil
gimil wrote:Obviously then I search atlantis I didn't search the right thing. Could you give me a few links to what this map is suppose to represent so that I can make a better judgement befoer I comment further? Cheers.
It's not that you searched the wrong thing it is just that Atlantis is represented more as a sunken land and not often represented visually before its disastrous end, it is becuase of this that there are few visual representations of what Atlantis (at least none that can be taken as fact) looked like before it allegedly sunk into the sea
In fact the main documented description of it is from a dialogue written by Plato, called "Timaeus and Critias" and even that is only a slight reference to it. It is this Dialogue that is deemed to be the historical location where the myth of Atlantis began.
There is a link to in the first post to the whole dialogue, but here is the direct quote to save you time. It is this mystical land mass before the sinking that we wanted to use rather than a sunken city.
Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour. For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent.
Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars.
But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.
It is this vague description on which we based our idea and from there allowed both artistic license and community guidance to adapt that idea into a playable map that allowed for the gameplay we want to use.
The color scheme used is no more than what I felt was appealing within the feel of the map I was creating from a graphical point of view, there area few images that people have claimed to represent Atlantis at this time, although I did take guidance(or inspiration if you wish) to a degree from the one below as it is considered the most famous
possible representation and is from the Marine Festival fresco in Akrotiri. As you can see the color scheme there is similar in tone to what I have applied using deep browns, reds and golds,
- Click image to enlarge.
We have taken an idea and applied it to the concept of CC it is the ability to use artistic license that interests me most about what can be done in CC and do not believe that maps need to be guided by hard facts and representations outside of CC.
I also aggree (before you raise the point) that not everyone will know quite as much about the myth of Atlantis or the classics dialogue of Plato, but the game play and general feel of the map is enough to enjoy playing it with an added bonus of understanding for those that do know of the ' alleged' history rather than the myth. I play some of of the maps here based on fantasy lands or just plain brilliant ideas of cartographers and enjoy them just as much whether I know what they represent or mean.
