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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:14 pm

Hm, I don't see the need for the islands. And regarding Andorra, indeed it is independent, but for the purposes of this map, we could make it a part of that particular region.


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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:17 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, I don't see the need for the islands. And regarding Andorra, indeed it is independent, but for the purposes of this map, we could make it a part of that particular region.


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Needless to say I totally disagree with you! :) Why not include the islands that are actually a part of Spain and include Andorra with Catalunya!?
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Postby ivoK on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:21 pm

how do u ppl make those bloody mountains?!
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:25 pm

ivoK wrote:how do u ppl make those bloody mountains?!


By spitting blood my friend! :p
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Postby pancakemix on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:35 pm

The mountains between Murcia, Albacete, Jaen, and Granada don't block anything. They're pointless.
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Postby Bad Speler on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:51 pm

The mountains actually block one border, Granada and Albacete. Also it makes it look more like a complete mountain range. Also, i will not add the islands. Yes they are part of spain but not part of Iberia. I hope i do not have to say this again. For now I will keep Andorra, but we'll see how other people think about it, I might put a poll on it.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:44 pm

Bad Speler wrote:The mountains actually block one border, Granada and Albacete. Also it makes it look more like a complete mountain range. Also, i will not add the islands. Yes they are part of spain but not part of Iberia. I hope i do not have to say this again. For now I will keep Andorra, but we'll see how other people think about it, I might put a poll on it.


Put a poll on the islands as well then! ;)
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Postby pancakemix on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:50 pm

Bad Speler wrote:The mountains actually block one border, Granada and Albacete. Also it makes it look more like a complete mountain range. Also, i will not add the islands. Yes they are part of spain but not part of Iberia. I hope i do not have to say this again. For now I will keep Andorra, but we'll see how other people think about it, I might put a poll on it.


It doesn't appear that they would have border otherwise.
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Postby Bad Speler on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:02 pm

The poll has been changed, please vote.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:04 pm

You might want that changed, to also state, if Andorra is included, *How* it should be included (I.E. Independent or apart of one of the regions)


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Postby Bad Speler on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:11 pm

maybe...im not sure
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:17 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:You might want that changed, to also state, if Andorra is included, *How* it should be included (I.E. Independent or apart of one of the regions)


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Yes, I wouldn't mind it as an independent state but I had to vote for removing it as it's not part of Catalunya. Once I was told I had a stilted poll when I did something along these lines.

P.S. Do make a poll about the Balearic islands...if they should be included or not!
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Postby Kaleidoscopio on Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:46 pm

Hi. I'm from Portugal and I must say that I like this map a lot.
This final draft looks good.

I only have a couple suggestions.

1 - Reduce the width of the mountains by 2 or 3 pixels (would make them occupy less territory space while still separating).
2 - Make the Tagus River (the one near Lisbon) go on to the mountains (add a bridge to connect south and north of Portugal ?)
3 - Change the name of North Portugal (Beirus) to something more proper like "Portugal Norte" or "Trás os Montes". "Beirus" which should be called "Beiras", is only a small section of northern Portugal. :)

Excellent work, I'm looking forward to play this map.
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Postby Lapo on Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:01 pm

The accent is missing in many names
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Postby Bad Speler on Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:05 pm

Kaleidoscopio wrote:1 - Reduce the width of the mountains by 2 or 3 pixels (would make them occupy less territory space while still separating).
2 - Make the Tagus River (the one near Lisbon) go on to the mountains (add a bridge to connect south and north of Portugal ?)
3 - Change the name of North Portugal (Beirus) to something more proper like "Portugal Norte" or "Trás os Montes". "Beirus" which should be called "Beiras", is only a small section of northern Portugal. :)


1 - will do
2 - i dont think this is necesary
3 - Ill change the name to Tràs os Montes

As with the accents, the program im using doesnt like acesnts and i will have to add them on manually later on.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:01 pm

pancakemix wrote
The mountains between Murcia, Albacete, Jaen, and Granada don't block anything. They're pointless.

I must agree with these opinion, you dont need mountains in these place.
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Postby oaktown on Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:01 pm

nice map, looks playable. Two things bother me visually:

1. the texture on the land looks like water, and the texture on the water looks like land.

2. the rivers look like you drew them in with a Sharpie. They would bother me less if they were thinner and perhaps snaked a bit more.
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Postby btownmeggy on Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:32 pm

I don't care what the poll says, if you want your rationale for not including the islands, you HAVE to have Andorra.

Besides, unless someone makes a map of just Andorra, the poor little pays is never going to get a better shot on any map than this one.
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:16 pm

I agree, you need it
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:27 pm

I think having it apart of the region it's closest to would do it justice. All maps are not going to be perfect geographical or political maps.


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Postby Bad Speler on Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:00 pm

Ok, heres the next update:

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Ive kept Andorra for now as the poll is about even but the arguments for seem stronger than those against. I've widened the rivers a bit and shrunk the mountains at portugal a bit. Also those mountains near granada do block the Granada/Albacete border, it is hard to see but thats how it is. Also, it makes the mountain range more seem more complete. Also, Beirus was renamed ot Tras os Montes.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:02 pm

Regarding the mountains, have you considered a few variations in size...and perhaps...where the damn peak is? ;)


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Postby Bad Speler on Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:45 pm

I've varied a few of the mountains in size.

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Postby spinwizard on Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:49 pm

i liked it better b4 with the other mountains
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Postby spinwizard on Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:51 pm

could u move the mountains so there is no granada-murcia border? u only have 2 move a couple of the mountains.

p.s i like the sea
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