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				Iberia [Quenched]
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:30 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				December 22 versions
Original post
As the XML checker doesnt seem to be working I've started on my next map, Iberia
There are 63 territories (if i counted right), and 10 continents + the capitals.  I've been trying to keep the map as accurate as possible; i've only made 2 country merges as it did not seem necessary to merge any others.
Here is a list of things i know i have to fix
- Improve graphics
- Enlargen Gibraltar
- Perhaps add a darkened France abov Spain.
For now, the black rectangles are bridges, and the dark brown lines are mountains.
 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:42 pm 
				by happysadfun
				Ok... someone tried to make a spain map, and andy tried to make a iberia map before that... you could use those for inspiration.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:16 pm 
				by AndyDufresne
				Mmhm, I did make an Iberia map, but it got shuffled to the back burner when I took over more duties.  I've still got links around for it...
It is somewhat similar, though less territories, and with a few combined regions to improve gameplay, but it was interesting nonetheless.
Anyways, look forward to see how this goes.
--Andy
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:49 pm 
				by sfhbballnut
				its a little harsh on the eyes, adjust your color scheme
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:50 pm 
				by sfhbballnut
				and, are the capitals part of their continent? or are they seperate?
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:03 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				the capitals are seperate
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:43 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				I had a bunch of spare time, so I took a shot at making it look better using textures from 
GRsites.

 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:16 pm 
				by spiesr
				Is that negative 1 or postitive? It looks confuseing with the - 1.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:24 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				its all positive, i will look into ways to make this more clear
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:28 pm 
				by AK_iceman
				The colors are kinda bright.  
 
The map overall looks pretty good though.
 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:57 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				I've darkened a few of the colours.  I would prefer not to darken the red in portugal, as I've used the colours of the portuguese flags to colour that continent.

 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:14 am 
				by dafranca
				Great map... Awesome playability.
Sugestions:
1) A big map like this, with over 60 countries doesn't need a continent with only 3 countries. I think you should add Balearic Islands to Valencia.
2) you need to work on the colors of France(maybe a trasparency effect) and the sea/ocean.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:07 am 
				by reverend_kyle
				Dead territories suck, rivers suck, background color sucks, other than that its good.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:14 am 
				by sfhbballnut
				the texturing really helped , but you do need to work on rivers and mountains
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:05 am 
				by Bad Speler
				reverend_kyle wrote:Dead territories suck, rivers suck, background color sucks, other than that its good.
this is only the 3rd draft...anyways what do you mean by dead territories?
 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:40 am 
				by for dummies
				i believe by dead territories he means the capitals. i agree that those need to be modified but so far this looks like a nice map
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:37 am 
				by Marvaddin
				Dead territories would be areas that are present but not playable, like France in this one.
It can be an interesting map... But I think some regions are really crowded, mainly Portugal, so we could have some more territories merging, dont you think?
And, forgive me please, but Gibraltar is a capitol of what? And are the capitols not included in any continent, correct? About the title, Im convinced that France is not a good place for it...
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:15 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				well...i just named it capitals, because gibriltar is the capital of the country gibraltar.  same thing with andorra, they have capitals of the same name, I will see what I can do about Portugal.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:37 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				Heres the next update:
Changes I've made are:
1. Putting Murcia in the Valencia Continent.
2. Ocean background is different.
3. Merged some territories in Portugal and adjusted bonuses accordingly.
4. Changed Aragon bonus from 3 to 4, as it had 5 borders.
5. Added the same texture as in the rest of the map to France.
6. Moved title.
 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:17 pm 
				by dafranca
				Same improviments needed:
- Aragon needs 5 bonus, because it have +5 borders with other continents
- Castile-Leon would need +8 bonus
- Connect Setubal to lisboa instead of the connection of Setubal to Leiria. And  make Beirus +2 bonus. Or you need to do samething else in Beirus: +3 Bonus in Beirus for 4 countries, plus +1 bonus from Lisboa is too much bonus.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:19 pm 
				by reverend_kyle
				Try switching to a dark grey for the dead territory.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:24 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				All suggestions have been noted, but aragon might need to stay a 4 because expansion from the northeast is to easy, takeing both catalonia and aragon would result in just 3 borders needed to be defended.  I will also change portugal a bit more, expansion there is also to easy.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:26 pm 
				by Wisse
				Bad Speler wrote:All suggestions have been noted, but aragon might need to stay a 4 because expansion from the northeast is to easy, takeing both catalonia and aragon would result in just 3 borders needed to be defended.  I will also change portugal a bit more, expansion there is also to easy.
i saw that too, leave it 4, thats good for me 

 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:40 pm 
				by Bad Speler
				
Ive changed France's colour, altered Portugals borders, and adjusted Beirus and Castile-Leon bonuses.
 
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:15 am 
				by dafranca
				Dude,
Making a continent with more # borders then # bonus is insane!
At least add impassible borders from country Zaragoza to continent Catalonia