Battle of Actium [Quenched]

[Coleman]

Could you move the Sextus text left a little?

[cairnswk]

Could you move the Sextus text left a little?

Done Coleman....and fixed a couple small names in the process. Thanks

[Keredrex]

I must admit at first glance .. I was turned off a bit.. But after really looking at the map and the possible game play... I am interested....Personally I feel the colors could be toned down a bit... Maybe even instead of Colored Hexes.. Make them all one color of the Water... and Have a Colored Line Border surrounding the Appropriate Group Of Hexes per terrritory (instead of the Blue line)......Then Again It really isn't that big a deal if you can't Change it... Otherwise the Map is becoming more interesting

[cairnswk]

I must admit at first glance .. I was turned off a bit.. But after really looking at the map and the possible game play... I am interested....Personally I feel the colors could be toned down a bit... Maybe even instead of Colored Hexes.. Make them all one color of the Water... and Have a Colored Line Border surrounding the Appropriate Group Of Hexes per terrritory (instead of the Blue line)......Then Again It really isn't that big a deal if you can't Change it... Otherwise the Map is becoming more interesting

Keredrex...care to show what u mean?

[WidowMakers]

I personally liked the other names. They helped keep everything into a particular group. With all of the new names, you really need to hunt and search for where they are.

But if you choose to stay with these, do you need to keep the underlined letter in the legend?

WM

[unriggable]

I think its great. Just make the army circles a bit less transparent.

[cairnswk]

I personally liked the other names. They helped keep everything into a particular group. With all of the new names, you really need to hunt and search for where they are.

But if you choose to stay with these, do you need to keep the underlined letter in the legend?

WM

Uh Uh. thanks WM for your observation. I am still in the juryroom on this one. and no the underlines won't stay if these new names stay, but it is an inetersting exercise even just to see what it looks like. It is difficult to get short names for these size terts, which is how your observation applies. So iguess the old names kind of do apply better. I wanted to try this in refercne to someone's posting way back about "not another map like Chinese Checkers with two coordinate names"
Maybe I should do some more hunting for three/four letter names...they at least fit better.

[Keredrex]

Keredrex...care to show what u mean?

Sure If you want I can Email it to u or Just put an image here but I have'nt posted images in the forums yet

[cairnswk]

Keredrex...care to show what u mean?

Sure If you want I can Email it to u or Just put an image here but I have'nt posted images in the forums yet

OK. Keredrex. I see what you mean....it won't take long to do a version like that, so i'll proceed and see what it looks like. Thanks.

[cairnswk]

Keredrex...care to show what u mean?

Sure If you want I can Email it to u or Just put an image here but I have'nt posted images in the forums yet

Keredrex, below is i hope what you were talking about. What do you think?

[Keredrex]

It is but I figured the color inside the hexes to be the same as the water..and you need to finish the drop shadow some of the names..

[d.gishman]

Since there are so many different ship names, in the XML, it might help to indicate which army it belongs to then say the ship names (I like the ship names, more exciting than the previous names)

For the more transparent version, Sosius ships should have a darker outline, and Lurius is hard to see as well

[cairnswk]

It is but I figured the color inside the hexes to be the same as the water..and you need to finish the drop shadow some of the names..

Keredrex....here is the change the you asked for re the transparency on the water, and i finished the drop shadows of the names. But if have to say, IMHO this really doesn't work on this map.
i know some of the colours would need to be changed like Sosius and Lurius, but I don't think this cuts the mustard.
What do other think about it?

[cairnswk]

Since there are so many different ship names, in the XML, it might help to indicate which army it belongs to then say the ship names (I like the ship names, more exciting than the previous names)

Yes d.gishman...thats a very good idea. Something like
O Apollo
O Cupid
O Vulcan

C Horus
C Aten
C Vestal
C Hestia

Would that do?

For the more transparent version, Sosius ships should have a darker outline, and Lurius is hard to see as well

yes i've thaken that into account, but i don't think the transparent version will go forward at this stage, unless the whole forum wants it....I certainly prefer the stronger colours with all the ships colour filled in with a strong border.
At least I can see what is what then.

[d.gishman]

To cairnswk: yeah, "C Horus" and so forth would be good.

I would prefer either #1 or #2, but not #3, because i dont think the hexes should be the same colour as the water

[cairnswk]

To cairnswk: yeah, "C Horus" and so forth would be good.

I would prefer either #1 or #2, but not #3, because i dont think the hexes should be the same colour as the water

I myself prefer the #1 map at the top of page 11....its bold and bright but at least one can see where the ships borders are and the ships are different colours from the water.

[AndyDufresne]

Hm, I think the best option is still the solid color. Second would maybe be the bubble white, but the last option of just sea color is just bad, or at least I think so.

Could we have a look at the other version of the map? (Is it the large or small you are working on?)


--Andy

[Keredrex]

...I agree I just wanted to see how it looked but the original is better.... However... in th original you have a blue line around ALL the hexes... Try going back to that version but make the entire hex the same color except for army circle... Or maybe if the Hex is Red then the Border of the hex is Dark red or Light Red... You Know??

[cairnswk]

Hm, I think the best option is still the solid color. Second would maybe be the bubble white, but the last option of just sea color is just bad, or at least I think so.

Could we have a look at the other version of the map? (Is it the large or small you are working on?)
--Andy

Andy this is the small version of the solid colour map.

[cairnswk]

...I agree I just wanted to see how it looked but the original is better.... However... in th original you have a blue line around ALL the hexes... Try going back to that version but make the entire hex the same color except for army circle... Or maybe if the Hex is Red then the Border of the hex is Dark red or Light Red... You Know??

That's OK Keredrex....good exercise in options.
Keredrex, i think you need to go back and read through this thread to see what has been posted on the borders....there have been several version put forward. Can you do that for me and then come back and see what version u like best.

[cairnswk]

Hm, I think the best option is still the solid color. Second would maybe be the bubble white, but the last option of just sea color is just bad, or at least I think so.

Could we have a look at the other version of the map? (Is it the large or small you are working on?)


--Andy

Andy below are two versions.

V12, with the old names, V15 with the new names.

V12


V15

[onbekende]

I like V12, it looks less cramned and has a military feeling to it.

Bonusses are fine

[AndyDufresne]

Regarding names and vs no names, I see benefits to both.

Names -- I've always just liked maps with territories that...hm...actually feel like I'm conquering something, you know? Rather than A5. If I wanted to play Bingo, I'd go do that on some other site.

No Names -- It makes the areas easier to find. I know where all the 'M' names are located. I'm not sure off the top of my head where 'Aura' is though. I'd have to search a little harder.

So right now I can't quite decide which version I would want.

Also I think it may have been mentioned before that your current images of the people seem a little...hm...odd.


--Andy

[onbekende]

Those current images are stone figures

try to find az good foto iof Cleopatra, I dare you

[cairnswk]

Those current images are stone figures

try to find az good foto iof Cleopatra, I dare you

onbekende...they are meant to look like stone figures.
If you have heard of a cameo....it is a piece of stone style jewellry worn by women.
Those images are developed from images on the web and stylized like that.

I would prefer to keep them like that, as it fits well with the roman theme.