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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby mibi on Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:21 am

nick11 wrote:playing a speed on "Arms Race" (game #2741788). we got to the end of the game and we had both wiped each other out with troops remaining only on the top of the missile. when i started the next round i lost and lost heavy. This can't be correct. the game was ended because i started a round? thats really screwed up.

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yep when you are both stuck out in the vastness of outer space (missile launch) the first person to try to take a breath, loses.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby seamusk on Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:54 pm

nick11 wrote:playing a speed on "Arms Race" (game #2741788). we got to the end of the game and we had both wiped each other out with troops remaining only on the top of the missile. when i started the next round i lost and lost heavy. This can't be correct. the game was ended because i started a round? thats really screwed up.

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We just had this happen (not double death but someone dieing on missile launch) in a doubles 4 player game. My partner was the one left on the launch. He hit start, got killed, and then... it was my turn. Which was wrong because it shouldn't have been. Both teams were down to 1 now so I went and then the other team's remaining player got deferred armies. Red was eliminated, blue was skipped, and I was green. Yellow was already dead. This seems like a glitch in the gaming code.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby TaCktiX on Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:29 am

People stuck on missile launch was an accepted worst case scenario. If you look on some of the last pages prior to Quench, you'll see a more indepth discussion on it.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby seamusk on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:36 am

TaCktiX wrote:People stuck on missile launch was an accepted worst case scenario. If you look on some of the last pages prior to Quench, you'll see a more indepth discussion on it.

That doesn't explain the glitch I describe above.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby bomberman760 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:36 am

I looked everywhere for an answer to this, but no luck.

In a doubles game, why can I only fortify to about half of my teammate's territories? Not all are listed as an option to fortify to, and after several turns now I cannot figure out any rhyme or reason. I have not been able to fortify to any teammate territory where armies were actually needed.

Thanks.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby edbeard on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:02 am

seamusk wrote:
TaCktiX wrote:People stuck on missile launch was an accepted worst case scenario. If you look on some of the last pages prior to Quench, you'll see a more indepth discussion on it.

That doesn't explain the glitch I describe above.


you managed to leave out the most important part of the game log from your post


2008-07-01 19:32:07 - cptbighead lost Titan II MISSLE LAUNCH to neutral player
2008-07-01 19:32:07 - neutral player eliminated cptbighead from the game
2008-07-01 19:37:04 - neutral player was kicked out for missing too many turns



a neutral player being kicked out for missing turns is not something a mapmaker can fix. I think it's safe to assume that is why the other follies came about. I can only hope you brought this up in the bugs forum.
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Arms Race Board is broken

Postby Kenwhite1973 on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:48 pm

Arms Race Board is broken

You do not get the +50 troops when holding the President, launch code, and entire missile.
also you no longer have to occupy all the regions on the missile to still be allowed to Bombard enemy regions in the other country.
PLEASE FIX IT as it is not right
game example :
4411041
Thank you
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Re: Arms Race Board is broken

Postby sully800 on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:54 pm

Its fog of war so your link does not help.

You don't have to hold anything except for the missile launch to be able to bombard the enemy. No launch code, president or missile territories required.

And I assure you the +50 bonus works properly. Make sure you are holding the correct launch code and president/premiere to correspond with your missile. Also make sure that you are still holding the entire missile at the start of your turn (no territories bombarded by the enemy).
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Re: Arms Race Board is broken

Postby ben79 on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:57 pm

Kenwhite1973 wrote:Arms Race Board is broken

You do not get the +50 troops when holding the President, launch code, and entire missile.
also you no longer have to occupy all the regions on the missile to still be allowed to Bombard enemy regions in the other country.
PLEASE FIX IT as it is not right
game example :
4411041
Thank you



i'm playing arm's race everyday and you don't need the entire missile to be able to bombard the enemy's region, i do get 50 armies to hold president launch code and entire missile, the only problem with this map it's that the rolls are like a beta map

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Re: Arms Race Board is broken

Postby cicero on Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:27 pm

Moved from Suggestions & Bug Reports to Map Foundry > Drafting Room: New Projects.
Foundry mods to merge with quenched Arms Race thread.

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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:46 pm

cicero wrote:Foundry mods to merge with quenched Arms Race thread.
Cicero

Merged.

If you have a bug like this again and you're playing in the fog, try taking a screenshot. Otherwise, I'd agree precisely with what sully said ;-)
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Teflon Kris on Tue May 19, 2009 6:14 am

Yes, nothing wrong with the missile / bonus scenario - its entirely possible to win without holding the +50 and just bombarding with what you have - my opponent has just proved it lol :cry:
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:44 pm

sully800 wrote:This bug has happened to several people in different games where its possible to get eliminated by the neutral army. :?



It does not let you kill Titan II MISSILE Launch, not from SS-18 Missile launch to bombard anyways, what an ERROR on this map, wow

happening to me in a game, i killed all the green, but 1 left on titan II missile launch and I go to attack or bombard from SS-18 Missile launch and it and it does not let me?????, instead green goes and I get NO points cause it is terminator and I had him easy 11 vs 1 to bombard it? :?


get the map maker to fix it or eliminate it til worked out, shame too, cause nice little map


game # Game 5060631 to view




also, it happened to me and my partner in this game


AndrewB wrote:Game 5051315

After a player was terminated by the neutral in the missile lunch, no one has a turn pending.

Concise description:
No one has a turn pending

Specifics:
In the doubles game one player was eliminated by neutral in the missile lunch.

The turn should go to the next person in the queue (blue in this specific case).

Currently no one has a green dot defining those turn is that.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:55 pm

widowmakers please fix this asap!!!!!!!!!

it is a nice map, but needs that bug corrected immediately, thx for listening
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:40 pm

it's not a bmap bug, but a recurring issue in the game engine. The same thing happes on the Naval Superiority tert on Eaatern Hemishpere, or on any map where a player's last tert reverts to neutral. Sucks.

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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Txflier on Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:44 pm

I'm a little confused. This is my first time playing this map. So the nuclear strike is when you hold launch code, president, and missile? and what exactly is the deal with the missile launch resetting to 15 if it is occupied at the start of your turn. how would you ever hold it to attack then? I'm sure I'll see soon, but don't wanna botch up my game. thanks anyone.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:50 pm

Txflier wrote:I'm a little confused. This is my first time playing this map. So the nuclear strike is when you hold launch code, president, and missile? and what exactly is the deal with the missile launch resetting to 15 if it is occupied at the start of your turn. how would you ever hold it to attack then? I'm sure I'll see soon, but don't wanna botch up my game. thanks anyone.


You don't need to hold the top of the missile for the bonus.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Txflier on Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:01 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Txflier wrote:I'm a little confused. This is my first time playing this map. So the nuclear strike is when you hold launch code, president, and missile? and what exactly is the deal with the missile launch resetting to 15 if it is occupied at the start of your turn. how would you ever hold it to attack then? I'm sure I'll see soon, but don't wanna botch up my game. thanks anyone.


You don't need to hold the top of the missile for the bonus.


ok so basically you just have to kill the 15 if you want to bombard the other territory
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:31 pm

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I'm not getting my +50 bonus(2 times yo). That's pretty much it I suppose.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:45 pm

2009-10-20 06:58:29 - Thrak: You have to hold all three - president, launch code and missile. I took out the Launch code in every turn.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:50 am

Game 6162303
Can someone explain what the heck happened from round 18 to 19? Here's the log (nobody missed a turn)

2009-12-24 01:25:10 - Incrementing game to round 18
2009-12-24 01:25:21 - DBandit70 lost ? to neutral player (was on the warhead)
2009-12-24 01:25:21 - neutral player eliminated DBandit70 from the game
2009-12-24 01:30:10 - neutral player ran out of time
2009-12-24 01:30:10 - Incrementing game to round 19
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte got bonus of 2 troops added to USSR Bunker 1
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte got bonus of 2 troops added to USSR Bunker 2
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte received 2 troops for holding 2 Scientists
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte received 2 troops for holding 2 Uranium Processing Plants
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte received 3 troops for 10 regions
2009-12-24 01:30:40 - fumandomuerte received 7 deferred troops for missing 1 rounds (WTF?)
2009-12-24 01:30:47 - fumandomuerte deployed 7 troops on USSR Bunker 2
2009-12-24 01:31:00 - fumandomuerte deployed 7 troops on USSR Bunker 2
2009-12-24 01:31:24 - fumandomuerte reinforced USSR Bunker 2 with 2 troops from USSR Bunker 1
2009-12-24 01:31:31 - fumandomuerte reinforced USSR Bunker 2 with 1 troops from Sakharov
2009-12-24 01:31:32 - fumandomuerte ended the turn
2009-12-24 01:31:43 - Hopscotcher received 1 troops for holding ?
2009-12-24 01:31:43 - Hopscotcher received 2 troops for holding ?
2009-12-24 01:31:43 - Hopscotcher received 5 troops for 16 regions
2009-12-24 01:31:43 - Hopscotcher received 8 deferred troops for missing 1 rounds (WTF?)
2009-12-24 01:32:20 - Hopscotcher deployed 8 troops on ?
2009-12-24 01:32:23 - Hopscotcher assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from fumandomuerte
2009-12-24 01:32:28 - Hopscotcher assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from fumandomuerte
2009-12-24 01:32:34 - Hopscotcher assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from fumandomuerte
2009-12-24 01:32:38 - Hopscotcher assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from fumandomuerte
2009-12-24 01:32:59 - Hopscotcher deployed 8 troops on ?
2009-12-24 01:33:05 - Hopscotcher ended the turn
2009-12-24 01:33:05 - Incrementing game to round 20
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:31 am

It's a known bug that occurs when a player is eliminated by a neutral killer:
2009-12-24 01:25:21 - neutral player eliminated DBandit70 from the game
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:50 pm

But why does the nutral killer give deferred troops? Could that be fixed? That game was lost for me... It was very unfair to my contrinctant.
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Re: Arms Race! [Quenched]

Postby wolfmaster on Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:59 pm

Hi please refer to the topic
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=106494

I am in a situation where only 2 missile launch land
i found that there is some info not state in the map
the problem i found is i want into a possible but rare situations
opposing missle launch could not bomard each other

On the map there is this statement missile launch could bomard any foreign territory and opposing missle.
If anyone could explain why the missle launch is not consider as a foreign territory or opposing missle

If it is possible that we put a statement that missle launch could not bomard each other

this would make the game more clear
Thanks
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arms race board

Postby eddie2 on Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:39 am

hi i am sure the mods in c and a are getting feed up with complaints of truce breaking backstabbing intentionally throwing of the game for this board. i think i have came up with a solution to this would it be possible to make a code for the board to say that you cann't attack the silo until all uraniums and bunkers are held . i dont know if this would be possible but think it would help with the following.

1) would stop putting the weakest of the 3 players in a bad situation having to make a choice of who he wants to win the game. not matter what anybody says this is what is actually happening.

2)would stop all the complaints coming in from the players that decide that the weaker player is either backstabbing or throwing games

3)would stop giving the mods a headache about this board where i feel that if all of this carries on they are just going to delete the board and none of us arms race fans want this to happen.

thank you for taking time to read this and hope i get decient responses to this thread
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