Halloween Hollows [Quenched]

[edbeard]

to me, a web space could be interpreted as either a territory in the web or a whole continent in the web...


I don't think you need to say that the blackwidow has normal borders.


I think I suggested earlier that the coffin impassable also serves to block Wolverine from Jack O Lantern Manor (still spelled Latern) because it'd drop the number of borders on Animal Farm from 5 to 4 which I think makes another more holdable continent.

Bonus suggestions:

T'Stone Terrace: 3 (it only has 2 borders from 3 territories and 2 continents)
Animal Farm: 5 without my change. 4 with my change (6 territories borders 2 continents and the blackwidow)
Death's Door: 6 (all 6 territories are borders might even be worth 7)
Witches' Way: 4
Dragon's Head: 3 (4 territories with 3 as borders against 2 continents)
Wizard Ward: 5

Spider: +1 autodeploy. +1 for every 3 territories you hold under the web

[yeti_c]

I don't think you need to say that the blackwidow has normal borders.

Agree with this.

C.

[cairnswk]

to me, a web space could be interpreted as either a territory in the web or a whole continent in the web...


I don't think you need to say that the blackwidow has normal borders.


I think I suggested earlier that the coffin impassable also serves to block Wolverine from Jack O Lantern Manor (still spelled Latern) because it'd drop the number of borders on Animal Farm from 5 to 4 which I think makes another more holdable continent.

Bonus suggestions:

T'Stone Terrace: 3 (it only has 2 borders from 3 territories and 2 continents)
Animal Farm: 5 without my change. 4 with my change (6 territories borders 2 continents and the blackwidow)
Death's Door: 6 (all 6 territories are borders might even be worth 7)
Witches' Way: 4
Dragon's Head: 3 (4 territories with 3 as borders against 2 continents)
Wizard Ward: 5

Spider: +1 autodeploy. +1 for every 3 territories you hold under the web

I read all things and will adapt....but have you taken into consideration for the bonuses the items that can attack and be attacked on those continents.

Noted.
I don't think you need to say that the blackwidow has normal borders.

Agree with this.

C.

[cairnswk]

Current Version 16...please discuss.

[amazzony]

This is a really pointless comment but... I took one look at the map and I already love it!

[foregone]

Like the idea of the skulls but they seem to not be a part of the map right now. On the topic of bonuses, Animal Farm should probably drop a bit, seems much easier to hold than its neighbours.

How do you mean drop a bit...the bonus?
Skull i will work on.

Yea, meant that I think you should make it less. Currently Animal Farm gets the same as Death's Door while the latter has 6 territories, all which border other continents. Animal Farm only borders on 3 territories. It seems uneven for their bonuses to be the same.

[Natewolfman]

this looks awesome

small graphical note: I think it would look better if the wizard hats wernt all shaped the same... as in, the tops maybe folded diferently or pointing different ways, as it is its obvious copy paste over and over. a VERY minor thing lol, cant wait to play this on Halloween

[edbeard]

I did take into account all the attacks. The only one I discounted a little was witches' way and the witch (in terms of being attacked not where it can attack). Some might argue all that makes it a +5 continent but I'm not so sure.

You've switched the symbols on Bat Wings and Blackcat Mews which makes Animal Farm worth even less (the +6 was a mistake maybe?)

It's now 6 territories with 3 borders and can be attacked from 5 territories. 3 coming from Death's Door. I'd say +4 makes more sense now than ever.


spelling mistakes:

1. Latern should be Lantern

2. larger sider-web should be spider-web


my only concerns are the bonuses and I wish someone else would comment on them so I know that I'm not crazy.


Graphics stamp anyone?

good job, c.

[cairnswk]

More discussions please on Version 16 below.

[cairnswk]

I did take into account all the attacks. The only one I discounted a little was witches' way and the witch (in terms of being attacked not where it can attack). Some might argue all that makes it a +5 continent but I'm not so sure.

You've switched the symbols on Bat Wings and Blackcat Mews which makes Animal Farm worth even less (the +6 was a mistake maybe?)

It's now 6 territories with 3 borders and can be attacked from 5 territories. 3 coming from Death's Door. I'd say +4 makes more sense now than ever.


spelling mistakes:

1. Latern should be Lantern

2. larger sider-web should be spider-web


my only concerns are the bonuses and I wish someone else would comment on them so I know that I'm not crazy.


Graphics stamp anyone?

good job, c.

Thanks edbeard...those fix-ups done, please refresh.
And yes it would be nice for others to discuss bonuses and gameplay.

[cairnswk]

this looks awesome

small graphical note: I think it would look better if the wizard hats wernt all shaped the same... as in, the tops maybe folded diferently or pointing different ways, as it is its obvious copy paste over and over. a VERY minor thing lol, cant wait to play this on Halloween

Mmmm thanks natewolfman...i prefer the hats all the same way for the sake of uniformity, and appearing less messy all over the place.

[cairnswk]

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Yea, meant that I think you should make it less. Currently Animal Farm gets the same as Death's Door while the latter has 6 territories, all which border other continents. Animal Farm only borders on 3 territories. It seems uneven for their bonuses to be the same.

Note taken, please discuss the current bonuses and gameplay. Thanks foregone.

[edbeard]

Animal Farm should have a bonus of 4, not 6, right?

6 terr, 3 borders, 2 continents border it (and the spider), 5 terr can attack it.


You could arguably switch the Bat Wings and Blackcat Mews symbols (making Animal Farm have 4 borders) and still give it a +4. Something to think about/discuss. If people were to discuss gameplay...


Giving the map a graphics stamp might get the gameplay discussion going.



To me, this map is at a place where it's never been before. The Graphics are done for one. The riddles/legend makes sense / is not confusing for the first time. Just the bonuses need to be hammered out. Let's get some of those high-rankers in here to discuss the gameplay.

[Androidz]

Also for me the graphics is neat unless the sig:O Gonna fix it soon cairnswk?

[Night Strike]

Sorry cairns for being slow getting back to you.

Since Sheelbe Buggery has the arrow pointing to it, it needs to move to the right a bit because the white text is hard to read in the white castle color.

[cairnswk]

Sorry cairns for being slow getting back to you.

Since Sheelbe Buggery has the arrow pointing to it, it needs to move to the right a bit because the white text is hard to read in the white castle color.

Done!

Also for me the graphics is neat unless the sig:O Gonna fix it soon cairnswk?

Done!

Animal Farm should have a bonus of 4, not 6, right?

6 terr, 3 borders, 2 continents border it (and the spider), 5 terr can attack it.


You could arguably switch the Bat Wings and Blackcat Mews symbols (making Animal Farm have 4 borders) and still give it a +4. Something to think about/discuss. If people were to discuss gameplay...


Giving the map a graphics stamp might get the gameplay discussion going.



To me, this map is at a place where it's never been before. The Graphics are done for one. The riddles/legend makes sense / is not confusing for the first time. Just the bonuses need to be hammered out. Let's get some of those high-rankers in here to discuss the gameplay.

Done and thanks edbeard, realise it's your opinion, but that's a nice comment about the graphics, appreciate it.

VErsion 17
Changes:
1. Added "a Salem Cross" to the riddle text
2. enhanced the continent text on the sign
3. added glow to the sign light
4. tiny alteration to the stars
5. tidied the borders in a couple of places
6. removed the shadow from the salem crosses on the map so that they now look more part of the map
7. tinge of dark foreshore wash to wiccan beach

I'd still like to tidy the graves up and give them better perspective.

Click image to enlarge.

[Androidz]

Sorry cairns for being slow getting back to you.

Since Sheelbe Buggery has the arrow pointing to it, it needs to move to the right a bit because the white text is hard to read in the white castle color.

Done!

Also for me the graphics is neat unless the sig:O Gonna fix it soon cairnswk?

Done!

Animal Farm should have a bonus of 4, not 6, right?

6 terr, 3 borders, 2 continents border it (and the spider), 5 terr can attack it.


You could arguably switch the Bat Wings and Blackcat Mews symbols (making Animal Farm have 4 borders) and still give it a +4. Something to think about/discuss. If people were to discuss gameplay...


Giving the map a graphics stamp might get the gameplay discussion going.



To me, this map is at a place where it's never been before. The Graphics are done for one. The riddles/legend makes sense / is not confusing for the first time. Just the bonuses need to be hammered out. Let's get some of those high-rankers in here to discuss the gameplay.

Done and thanks edbeard, realise it's your opinion, but that's a nice comment about the graphics, appreciate it.

VErsion 17
Changes:
1. Added "a Salem Cross" to the riddle text
2. enhanced the continent text on the sign
3. added glow to the sign light
4. tiny alteration to the stars
5. tidied the borders in a couple of places
6. removed the shadow from the salem crosses on the map so that they now look more part of the map
7. tinge of dark foreshore wash to wiccan beach

I'd still like to tidy the graves up and give them better perspective.

Quench:D

[edbeard]

I have to backtrack a bit...


Is it possible to get a little red/pink in the moon area to make it more clear that Wicked the Witch is part of Witches' Way? Maybe it'd make it more spoooooky

[cairnswk]

I have to backtrack a bit...


Is it possible to get a little red/pink in the moon area to make it more clear that Wicked the Witch is part of Witches' Way? Maybe it'd make it more spoooooky

How this? applied a colour overaly at 25%...it's that blood red moon!

[edbeard]

I think that works. Does having it slightly more pink/red look goofy? I guess I'm never satisfied

[cairnswk]

I think that works. Does having it slightly more pink/red look goofy? I guess I'm never satisfied

What do others think about it?

[whitestazn88]

the moon looks good to me. kinda harvesty, but also kinda eerie

[laci_mae]

Hi Cairns,

Good work on this resurrection!

I would like to suggest that there be a Salem Cross in every continent. Currently, death's door is without.

Best,
Laci

[oaktown]

I'm so glad there's a seasonal map in production - I've been dreaming of making the North Pole for months, but I can't find the time.

Colors aren't so good for me...in fact they're really bad. I can't tell what goes with what.

From reading the legend, I gather that witches can one-way attack skeletons, and the crosses can one-way attack witches? I'd hate to be a non-native english speaker trying to figure that out.

The Spiderweb thing really throws me... hold the spider and any two territories from any of three regions that I can't figure out because I can't work out the colors. And I'm not really sure what the spiderweb bonus adds to gameplay - my overall impression is that since this is a novelty map that is likely to get the most play around Halloween, you should keep it as simple and straightforward as possible. When I stumble home drunk from the halloween parties and start a game on this, I don't want to have to think about what combinations give me what bonus, and who can attack whom remotely and from where.

Cauldron Bubble can only be attacked from Dragon Snout? And the tombstones can each only be attacked by the Tombstone Terrace? Seems like a lot of easy territories to defend.

Impassables: maybe you could switch around the order of the wording to keep "Jack O'Lantern" together.

[mibi]

I dont get the graphical concept of this one.