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Re: Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:38 amby degaston
clangfield wrote:A tank game I play has a restriction that you can only create games with ranks up to 4 above and below yours (there is a slider bar that allows you to narrow it further).
This approach would cut out newbie farming by people who should know better; intuitively one might think it would make games harder to fill, but in practice it might encourage people to join in the 'middle' slots if they are confident that they won't be followed in by a much lower rank. Certainly I often wait to join last in order to avoid newbies who deadbeat.
I certainly wouldn't want it to be mandatory. People can have friends with a much different rank, and you shouldn't prevent them from playing each other. Also, some people might want to play a map & settings combination that is not very popular, and restricting the rank might make it almost impossible to fill.
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:i dont reaaly think #1 would make much difference. i think the decline is more complex than any one thing. im not arguing that people dont want it. keep that in mind.
no. 2 tho' seems pretty valid. i never looked at it that way, but i know i jesitate in joining games due to the chance of some clown joining that goi.g to attack all of his 3armies on the first turn.
I wasn't saying that it would solve all of the problems here, but I think it would be a step in the right direction. Even better if this were combined with my suggestion for
Unlimited Wait-Lists & Maximum Game Limit.
Re: Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:52 pmby NoSurvivors
I feel like a big reason they dont implement this is because it would make things way too easy on high ranked players. The highest ranked players would go from being around 4800 to being around like 6000 because they dont lose as many points because they play the same people all the time and dont have to worry about losing points... I dont know if I am just rambling or actually making sense but it makes sense in my head I swear
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Re: Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:36 pmby degaston
NoSurvivors wrote:I feel like a big reason they dont implement this is because it would make things way too easy on high ranked players. The highest ranked players would go from being around 4800 to being around like 6000 because they dont lose as many points because they play the same people all the time and dont have to worry about losing points... I dont know if I am just rambling or actually making sense but it makes sense in my head I swear
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Any benefit from losing fewer points should be offset by a lower win rate. Also, within a closed group, the number of points available is fixed, so if anything, the ratings of high level players who only play other high level players would become more stable.
Re: Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:57 pmby WILLIAMS5232
degaston wrote:NoSurvivors wrote:I feel like a big reason they dont implement this is because it would make things way too easy on high ranked players. The highest ranked players would go from being around 4800 to being around like 6000 because they dont lose as many points because they play the same people all the time and dont have to worry about losing points... I dont know if I am just rambling or actually making sense but it makes sense in my head I swear
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Any benefit from losing fewer points should be offset by a lower win rate. Also, within a closed group, the number of points available is fixed, so if anything, the ratings of high level players who only play other high level players would become more stable.
yeah, this works the same on all the levels. the better you are the more games you win the higher the level you climb.
i did a tournament a while ago that was set up like this. got some complaints from some people about how a player stayed up top nearly the whole tournament, but got knocked out in the end. but in the end the player that won won the most games over all. it was pretty convincing evidence to me that a league system works.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=148444
Re: Rank Restricted Games
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:54 amby ViperOverLord
Anarkistsdream wrote:Another example of High Players being "high and mighty" and snubbing their nose at lower players. If you are going to do it that way, the maximum any player will ever gain from a game is, what 5 points??? Maybe 10? If you do it that way, you might as well just say that EVERY game is only worth so many points, regardless of level.
I found this comment somewhat ironic given the fact that I had just invited and played with him in a doubles game. Flat rate points per game won't work for obvious reasons....It would have players just going to virtual infinity points. But all of this is beside the point of what the great value of point minimums for joining brings to the table.
foe entire "ranks"
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Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:37 pmby riskllama
the suggestion : make it so you can just foe an entire rank of players. cooks, for example - but have the ability to foe ANY rank you desire.
why? because 'riskllama gained 5 points in round 14", that's why. something to think about and/or discuss, anyways...*shrugs*
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:01 pmby BIG_John
You gain 5 from them and lose 30 + to them if they beat you. Great idea Llama! I approve of this message!!!
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:30 amby Donelladan
This would be the exact same thing that rank restricted game.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=274&p=853&hilit=restricted#p853
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:58 amby BrutalBob
A suggestion made in 2006. How could we have missed that.
OWEN LIVES!!!
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:07 amby Donelladan
Well, the suggestion has been made many times, 2006 is only the first occurence, last one was apparently in 2014 but I didn't really look for it.
Btw, I didn't tell you that your suggestion would be rejected or that it has been proposed multiple times and that you were useless and should have used the search function. Neither did I blame you for missing this suggestion.
So please don't compare me with owen.
I simply let you know that something similar existed and give you a link.
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:57 amby riskllama
yeah, i guess that is pretty much the same thing, isn't it? didn't search, won't call you owen. carry on, everyone...
Re: foe entire "ranks"
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:03 pmby BrutalBob
Donelladan wrote:Well, the suggestion has been made many times, 2006 is only the first occurence, last one was apparently in 2014 but I didn't really look for it.
Btw, I didn't tell you that your suggestion would be rejected or that it has been proposed multiple times and that you were useless and should have used the search function. Neither did I blame you for missing this suggestion.
So please don't compare me with owen.
Its ok Don. You are new at the job and still learning. Give it time to develop the condescending attitude. At least you see the path you need to follow.
Have the ability to limit ranks when starting games
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:30 pmby xroads
I have played other online games where you could specify a min or max score that you want to play.
Example many high rankers do not like starting public games as there is always a cook that gets a hot drop & dice and you loose 100 points.
Or a lower rank may not want a higher rank to join so they dont get farmed by a superior opponent.
Re: Have the ability to limit ranks when starting games
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:31 pmby IcePack
Might want to find the older threads w same suggestionand expand on it
Re: Have the ability to limit ranks when starting games
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:57 amby Arama86n
Screw the older threads.
Great idea: just implement.
To be honest this is something I believe the powers that be were greatly mistaken about. It has been argued that it would have been counterproductive for the site. I believe that was mistaken.
If I believed my post could make a difference I would argue the point.
This must be rather straightforward from a programming point of view. Sad that obvious improvements like this were spurned due to some roundabout philosophy back in the day.
Re: [GO] [Rules] Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:25 pmby IcePack
Merged w the other like suggestions
Re: [GO] [Rules] Rank Restricted Games
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:54 pmby DJENRE
+1 Give it a go!