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Dako wrote:IcePack, what about highest ever score per rank? Same as we have for points on our profile pages. Can you pull that data?
IcePack wrote:Long story short...I started re reading the discussion / arguments about the top 10 rankings of all time, because well...thats the kind of thing I do when I'm bored.JPlo64 wrote:Is it possible to do a historical clan ranking with the F400 system?
This was asked way back in April 2015. It was a lot of work, but I finally got around to creating a second database and reworking every clan war / league result to count as an "active" system with no decay.
Anyway, its an interesting (and probably controversial) ranking but if I count every war since the WORT vs CWC 17-9 on 01/02/07 to the present (well, until Octobers ranking because I dont have all of October results input) then this is what the rankings spit out...
Lets call this - F400 Historical: (117 Clans Listed)
1 TOFU 1325
2 TOP 1323
3 S&M 1291
4 THOTA 1285
5 FALL 1230
6 EMP 1215
7 AOC 1212
8 TSM 1207
9 ACE 1206
10 PACK 1188
11 IA 1177
12 LHDD 1159
13 LOW 1143
14 FOED 1129
15 DPLL 1120
16 OSA 1105
donche64 wrote:Only 12th... We'll have to keep on working hard then!!
betiko wrote:donche64 wrote:Only 12th... We'll have to keep on working hard then!!
i don't really think that ranking can be relevant... 90% of the people here, me included have never heard of DPLL.
A clan like LI is unquestionably the worse clan of all times, yet there are a few behind them, just because they didn't play enough wars to confirm how much below terrible they were, i doubt they could've scored more than a win against average clans.
TOP's biggest accomplishment is beating FOED and that ranks them as the second best clan of all times... go figure. A clan like S&M has won 3 CC cups and 2 first division titles; I doubt anyone will ever do as good, and yet they are third.
the F400 is meaningful as it's a picture of the current shape; but this formula can't be applied to an all time best. Trophies and important wins over 7 - 8 years are not comparable to trophies and important wins over a year.
Dako wrote:
The same but for clans.
Arama86n wrote:wow, great work.
A bit controversial (for numerous reasons) yes, but still interesting.
And of course satisfying as a member of TOFU
PS: I have NO recollection of "DPLL" at all
Whoever you were, well done on making t-16 all time though.
IcePack wrote:Arama86n wrote:wow, great work.
A bit controversial (for numerous reasons) yes, but still interesting.
And of course satisfying as a member of TOFU
PS: I have NO recollection of "DPLL" at all
Whoever you were, well done on making t-16 all time though.
DPLL - https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... ClanId=133
I had only heard of them because someone told me once there was a clan named lazors pew pew (maybe it was Keefie) and I didn't believe him and had to look it up.
Apparently they didn't last long. As others have said, there are a few anomalies for clans with very little criteria, either being not low enough because they didn't stay around long enough to show truly how bad they were, or only here a short time and don't have enough criteria to really compare them much to others yet.
But still, for clans with more history around it's interesting in the view of historical best of discussions even if you have to manually edit out a few weird occurrences in order to form your own top version of clans. I mean, if someone proposed this version of top 10 of all time would many people think it was very skewed?
1. TOFU
2. S&M
3. THOTA
4. FALL
5. EMP
6. AOC
7. TSM
8. ACE
9. PACK
10. IA
IcePack wrote:Arama86n wrote:wow, great work.
A bit controversial (for numerous reasons) yes, but still interesting.
And of course satisfying as a member of TOFU
PS: I have NO recollection of "DPLL" at all
Whoever you were, well done on making t-16 all time though.
DPLL - https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... ClanId=133
I had only heard of them because someone told me once there was a clan named lazors pew pew (maybe it was Keefie) and I didn't believe him and had to look it up.
Apparently they didn't last long. As others have said, there are a few anomalies for clans with very little criteria, either being not low enough because they didn't stay around long enough to show truly how bad they were, or only here a short time and don't have enough criteria to really compare them much to others yet.
But still, for clans with more history around it's interesting in the view of historical best of discussions even if you have to manually edit out a few weird occurrences in order to form your own top version of clans. I mean, if someone proposed this version of top 10 of all time would many people think it was very skewed?
1. TOFU
2. S&M
3. THOTA
4. FALL
5. EMP
6. AOC
7. TSM
8. ACE
9. PACK
10. IA
iAmCaffeine wrote:I'm not sure how AoC gets into a Top 10 over LHDD and FOED.
jdw35 wrote:IcePack wrote:Arama86n wrote:wow, great work.
A bit controversial (for numerous reasons) yes, but still interesting.
And of course satisfying as a member of TOFU
PS: I have NO recollection of "DPLL" at all
Whoever you were, well done on making t-16 all time though.
DPLL - https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... ClanId=133
I had only heard of them because someone told me once there was a clan named lazors pew pew (maybe it was Keefie) and I didn't believe him and had to look it up.
Apparently they didn't last long. As others have said, there are a few anomalies for clans with very little criteria, either being not low enough because they didn't stay around long enough to show truly how bad they were, or only here a short time and don't have enough criteria to really compare them much to others yet.
But still, for clans with more history around it's interesting in the view of historical best of discussions even if you have to manually edit out a few weird occurrences in order to form your own top version of clans. I mean, if someone proposed this version of top 10 of all time would many people think it was very skewed?
1. TOFU
2. S&M
3. THOTA
4. FALL
5. EMP
6. AOC
7. TSM
8. ACE
9. PACK
10. IA
lol oh gosh I forgot I was even a part of DLPP That was quite a while ago! Interesting to see the 2 wars we won was enough to get us to 16th all time...
speaking of which, I see that I never received a medal for that war win lol were medals not issued back then? or did I not meet requirements?
betiko wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:I'm not sure how AoC gets into a Top 10 over LHDD and FOED.
Because FOED and LHDD are clans that haven t always been on top, even if they have both achieved way more than AOC.
AOC has never won anything, but in the eyes of some, anything done by empire aoc and ace is put in the same bag.
If longevity, titles, amount of war and events played isn't factored, this ranking is silly.
betiko wrote:jdw35 wrote:IcePack wrote:Arama86n wrote:wow, great work.
A bit controversial (for numerous reasons) yes, but still interesting.
And of course satisfying as a member of TOFU
PS: I have NO recollection of "DPLL" at all
Whoever you were, well done on making t-16 all time though.
DPLL - https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... ClanId=133
I had only heard of them because someone told me once there was a clan named lazors pew pew (maybe it was Keefie) and I didn't believe him and had to look it up.
Apparently they didn't last long. As others have said, there are a few anomalies for clans with very little criteria, either being not low enough because they didn't stay around long enough to show truly how bad they were, or only here a short time and don't have enough criteria to really compare them much to others yet.
But still, for clans with more history around it's interesting in the view of historical best of discussions even if you have to manually edit out a few weird occurrences in order to form your own top version of clans. I mean, if someone proposed this version of top 10 of all time would many people think it was very skewed?
1. TOFU
2. S&M
3. THOTA
4. FALL
5. EMP
6. AOC
7. TSM
8. ACE
9. PACK
10. IA
lol oh gosh I forgot I was even a part of DLPP That was quite a while ago! Interesting to see the 2 wars we won was enough to get us to 16th all time...
speaking of which, I see that I never received a medal for that war win lol were medals not issued back then? or did I not meet requirements?
So who came up with such a brilliant name?
jdw35 wrote:lol oh gosh I forgot I was even a part of DLPP That was quite a while ago! Interesting to see the 2 wars we won was enough to get us to 16th all time...
speaking of which, I see that I never received a medal for that war win lol were medals not issued back then? or did I not meet requirements?
iAmCaffeine wrote:I'm not sure how AoC gets into a Top 10 over LHDD and FOED.
IcePack wrote:jdw35 wrote:lol oh gosh I forgot I was even a part of DLPP That was quite a while ago! Interesting to see the 2 wars we won was enough to get us to 16th all time...
speaking of which, I see that I never received a medal for that war win lol were medals not issued back then? or did I not meet requirements?
No idea, that was before my time. I believe they did go back and issue historical medals at one point that met certain specific criteria. But would require a mini research project to find out what those were and who had been issued.
The info is out there somewhere, Cheme would know best.
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