Conquer Club

Arama86n wrote:Some people should study history more closely.
AoC for example may never have reached #1, but they were consistently top for a long time. And that, to me at least, means a lot.

Also I think there is a memory bias. it is easy to remember who was #1 last year. I may be harder to remember who war #3-#5 between 2012-2014 for example

I could write a bloody A4, but I'll pass.

Hail TSM, Hail Empire, Hail AoC.
And ofc, eternal glory to KORT. But that should go without saying.
I have also always had a lot of respect for IA. Not sure exactly where I'd put them in a historical t10 list.
THOTA was slightly before my time.
I won't even mention FALL. It is a like commenting a painting half-way through. Legacy in motion. Keep it up gents/ladies.

The absolute hardest clan to talk about is TOP. It is just too soon. An amazing start to the career, it goes without saying. But it is just too early to say anything. We look forward to the year to come TOP.
Second hardest is PACK. Hard to compare a relatively short-lived peak to long-lived clans. No offence at all, I just don't know how to judge it.

As for TOFU. We outlived several crises, CC2, CC3. People taunted, people said we were "over". It got even harder, the people that were left were overworked. We lost more to burnout. But we endured. We recruited, We survived, we persevered, and we stayed close to the summit.
I am proud of my clan. Very proud. Enough said.

There are other clans I would like to mention, like OSA and RA in different contexts. But if I go beyond this t10, it will be two A4's, and no one will read it anyway

swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:I'm not sure how AoC gets into a Top 10 over LHDD and FOED.

I think some of you forget how the top 5 for like a two year period included was TOFU, KORT, EMPIRE, TSM and AOC. So to me it makes sense that they are above LHDD. Wasn't EMP fighting for first place for a long time in F400?

And at betiko, it actually isn't all seen as one because we weren't allowed to keep our ranking unlike S&M because they declared as an addition of teamates instead of a merger? Or I could be wrong. I'm not all that up to date and in the know on history.

swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:I'm not sure how AoC gets into a Top 10 over LHDD and FOED.

I think some of you forget how the top 5 for like a two year period included was TOFU, KORT, EMPIRE, TSM and AOC. So to me it makes sense that they are above LHDD. Wasn't EMP fighting for first place for a long time in F400?

And at betiko, it actually isn't all seen as one because we weren't allowed to keep our ranking unlike S&M because they declared as an addition of teamates instead of a merger? Or I could be wrong. I'm not all that up to date and in the know on history.

swimmerdude99 wrote:

Arama86n wrote:Some people should study history more closely.
AoC for example may never have reached #1, but they were consistently top for a long time. And that, to me at least, means a lot.

Also I think there is a memory bias. it is easy to remember who was #1 last year. I may be harder to remember who war #3-#5 between 2012-2014 for example

I could write a bloody A4, but I'll pass.

Hail TSM, Hail Empire, Hail AoC.
And ofc, eternal glory to KORT. But that should go without saying.
I have also always had a lot of respect for IA. Not sure exactly where I'd put them in a historical t10 list.
THOTA was slightly before my time.
I won't even mention FALL. It is a like commenting a painting half-way through. Legacy in motion. Keep it up gents/ladies.

The absolute hardest clan to talk about is TOP. It is just too soon. An amazing start to the career, it goes without saying. But it is just too early to say anything. We look forward to the year to come TOP.
Second hardest is PACK. Hard to compare a relatively short-lived peak to long-lived clans. No offence at all, I just don't know how to judge it.

As for TOFU. We outlived several crises, CC2, CC3. People taunted, people said we were "over". It got even harder, the people that were left were overworked. We lost more to burnout. But we endured. We recruited, We survived, we persevered, and we stayed close to the summit.
I am proud of my clan. Very proud. Enough said.

There are other clans I would like to mention, like OSA and RA in different contexts. But if I go beyond this t10, it will be two A4's, and no one will read it anyway

Thats a bloody quality post right there. I feel you on the THOTA, they were gone by the time I joined the clan scene but at the time their name was that looming horse and you would see their players here and there for pickup games and were always scared.

Arama86n wrote:thanks Swimmer. A little on the emotional side, I'd had a few to drink. But in the light of day I stand by everything I wrote Could have skipped the sentimental part about the hardships of my clan over the years though

We're still on AoC are we, ok:
A last note on that: look at their losses though EMP, IA, THOTA, TOFU, KORT. (I'll ignore the AFOS loss, as I'm sure they were in decline by that time).
Their last three losses, when they had truly hit their stride are against arguably the three most successful clans of all time. Apart from that it's wins.
I'd be damn proud of that record if I was ex-AoC.

Arama86n wrote:PS: I believe AFOS was in decline by the time of the final [of CC3]. Look at the score...
The semi-final against KORT was one of the greatest battles in CC history. The final [against AFOS] was not a close contest.

Dako wrote:

Arama86n wrote:PS: I believe AFOS was in decline by the time of the final [of CC3]. Look at the score...
The semi-final against KORT was one of the greatest battles in CC history. The final [against AFOS] was not a close contest.

Yeah, AFOS lost 42-18 at that moment. It was a complete slaughter in CC finals.

rockfist wrote:That's all true, but you can't fault the teams that win if their opponents have a howler. The CC5 final was reasonably well played and we lost. We did not play well in the CC4 final. That's not KORT's fault, nor is it our fault that AFOS did not play well in the CC3 final.

rockfist wrote:That's all true, but you can't fault the teams that win if their opponents have a howler. The CC5 final was reasonably well played and we lost. We did not play well in the CC4 final. That's not KORT's fault, nor is it our fault that AFOS did not play well in the CC3 final.

Bruceswar wrote:Thread still going... Nice

betiko wrote:

rockfist wrote:That's all true, but you can't fault the teams that win if their opponents have a howler. The CC5 final was reasonably well played and we lost. We did not play well in the CC4 final. That's not KORT's fault, nor is it our fault that AFOS did not play well in the CC3 final.

Just like we played well the cc5 semi final against fall last year and we ve been quite mediocre this year against you guys with a lot of mistakes in a few games we don t usually do.. hope we ll face each other next year with both clans at full strength, or close enough, for a little rematch

rockfist wrote:

betiko wrote:

rockfist wrote:That's all true, but you can't fault the teams that win if their opponents have a howler. The CC5 final was reasonably well played and we lost. We did not play well in the CC4 final. That's not KORT's fault, nor is it our fault that AFOS did not play well in the CC3 final.

Just like we played well the cc5 semi final against fall last year and we ve been quite mediocre this year against you guys with a lot of mistakes in a few games we don t usually do.. hope we ll face each other next year with both clans at full strength, or close enough, for a little rematch

Get going on that I would love a rematch.

reptile wrote:not that i think this has anything to do with ranking top clans of all time, but out of curiosity is there a quick way to know who the oldest active competitive clan on CC is?

niMic wrote:I think Imperial Dragoons was my first clan, actually. I'm not sure I ever played any games, though. That was probably with the mighty Regulators, the #1 clan in CC history.