Conquer Club

There's another thread for the active player rankings. This is for historical player rankings. Like the current season, these are more of a power ranking that takes into account the data that is available. Win %, Home Wins, Away Wins, Home Losses, Dubs/Trips/Quads Wins and a luck factor have been calculated. If you look at the bottom tabs of the below Google Sheet, you'll see an All Time List that has everyone who completed a season along with their best finishes in some key categories as well as an All Time Top 10 List for score, per game score and win %.

Completed Seasons:

CL9
CL10
CL11

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12idvD5jV0YQKGie2qF_ok7BFFX1skrrEaonHng87Y0E/edit?usp=sharing


CL 11 Top 25

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CL 10 Top 25

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CL 9 Top 25

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Interesting.

I always thought that league favored specialists more than cup does, but maybe its not so skewed.

rockfist wrote:I always thought that league favored specialists more than cup does, but maybe its not so skewed.

if anything it would be the other way around no?

I don’t think so, I think it’s pretty easy to send maps that you have specialists on for each one with 8 game sets so if you play away maps you face a specialist. In a 24,27, or 30 map exchange it’s more difficult. I know for us if we have a specialist on a map they take it, but if we don’t I usually get drafted (I’m above 55% away games).

It’s possible that my experience is not what most people experience though.

rockfist wrote:I don’t think so, I think it’s pretty easy to send maps that you have specialists on for each one with 8 game sets so if you play away maps you face a specialist. In a 24,27, or 30 map exchange it’s more difficult. I know for us if we have a specialist on a map they take it, but if we don’t I usually get drafted (I’m above 55% away games).

It’s possible that my experience is not what most people experience though.

My little system attempts to reward the all around player - away wins are very valuable and home losses sting - so if you play a balanced schedule and win, you'll be ranked high. If you only play home games as a map/settings specialist, you might win 75% of them but it will hurt you in the scoring due to the lack of variety. So I tried to kind of make it rather difficult for a specialist to be rewarded for specializing.

rockfist wrote:I don’t think so, I think it’s pretty easy to send maps that you have specialists on for each one with 8 game sets so if you play away maps you face a specialist. In a 24,27, or 30 map exchange it’s more difficult. I know for us if we have a specialist on a map they take it, but if we don’t I usually get drafted (I’m above 55% away games).

It’s possible that my experience is not what most people experience though.

how is it more difficult? you're still going to use 99% the same maps in the League as you do in a regular war so at least from a home map perspective, you'll play all the same specialist maps as usual minus 1 or 2 if you know don't favour your team over the opposing clan's on that particular map. same for away games, it's rare a clan doesn't have a team for every map these days.

Nut Shot Scott wrote:

rockfist wrote:I don’t think so, I think it’s pretty easy to send maps that you have specialists on for each one with 8 game sets so if you play away maps you face a specialist. In a 24,27, or 30 map exchange it’s more difficult. I know for us if we have a specialist on a map they take it, but if we don’t I usually get drafted (I’m above 55% away games).

It’s possible that my experience is not what most people experience though.

My little system attempts to reward the all around player - away wins are very valuable and home losses sting - so if you play a balanced schedule and win, you'll be ranked high. If you only play home games as a map/settings specialist, you might win 75% of them but it will hurt you in the scoring due to the lack of variety. So I tried to kind of make it rather difficult for a specialist to be rewarded for specializing.

So are you hurt if you don’t take home maps and only do aways and do better then expected?

That CL 10 ranking must be wrong....

IcePack wrote:

Nut Shot Scott wrote:
My little system attempts to reward the all around player - away wins are very valuable and home losses sting - so if you play a balanced schedule and win, you'll be ranked high. If you only play home games as a map/settings specialist, you might win 75% of them but it will hurt you in the scoring due to the lack of variety. So I tried to kind of make it rather difficult for a specialist to be rewarded for specializing.

So are you hurt if you don’t take home maps and only do aways and do better then expected?

That would depend upon on how you expect to fair on a home map. The real issue would be that you're not playing half the games. Tough to compete score-wise in these rankings with a player who plays 15-20 more games than you and plays halfway decent.

loutil wrote:That CL 10 ranking must be wrong....

you smashed. 70% win rate on 44 games.

loutil wrote:That CL 10 ranking must be wrong....

Nah it got evened out with some CCup battles in some years
I remember one war against you guys you couldn’t buy a 2 on a dice roll...

Nut shot love what you are doing....
I would propose a coolness medal or a contribution medal for your hard work here...

should get a medal forsure, even if it is scott

MTIceman41 wrote:

loutil wrote:That CL 10 ranking must be wrong....

Nah it got evened out with some CCup battles in some years
I remember one war against you guys you couldn’t buy a 2 on a dice roll...

Nut shot love what you are doing....
I would propose a coolness medal or a contribution medal for your hard work here...

There is precedent for doing the rankings to get a medal after certain length of time keeping it up / level of regular effort.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

rockfist wrote:I don’t think so, I think it’s pretty easy to send maps that you have specialists on for each one with 8 game sets so if you play away maps you face a specialist. In a 24,27, or 30 map exchange it’s more difficult. I know for us if we have a specialist on a map they take it, but if we don’t I usually get drafted (I’m above 55% away games).

It’s possible that my experience is not what most people experience though.

how is it more difficult? you're still going to use 99% the same maps in the League as you do in a regular war so at least from a home map perspective, you'll play all the same specialist maps as usual minus 1 or 2 if you know don't favour your team over the opposing clan's on that particular map. same for away games, it's rare a clan doesn't have a team for every map these days.

I’m not willing to publicly discuss all of the details and facts supporting what I am saying so I’ll just concede the point.

MTIceman41 wrote:

loutil wrote:That CL 10 ranking must be wrong....

Nah it got evened out with some CCup battles in some years
I remember one war against you guys you couldn’t buy a 2 on a dice roll...

why do you want to bring up such bad memories? . I have said, often, that I have the streakiest dice in CC. Both good and bad.

CL11 had 9 clans. There were 9 rounds but each clan had a bye round and only played 8.
So Max 48 games.

JPlo64 wrote:CL11 had 9 clans. There were 9 rounds but each clan had a bye round and only played 8.
So Max 48 games.

Good looking out. I shall adjust accordingly - I wasn't paying attention to that, really only looked at # of rounds ha

This is amazing.

I went from 22nd in CL10 to 130th in CL11. #Decline

niMic wrote:This is amazing.

I went from 22nd in CL10 to 130th in CL11. #Decline

CL9 is on the way. We'll see how you fared that year haha

Is it bad that I searched for my name from the bottom up?

Depends whose bottom..

Same here.
Went from 42nd to 173rd.

Looks like I made the right decision to step away from CC for a bit

niMic wrote:This is amazing.

I went from 22nd in CL10 to 130th in CL11. #Decline

CL9 added.

CL8 coming soon.

josko with the most dominant season i've seen yet, damn.

I'm not surprised to hear that, as I said in the other thread I thought I was very good in CL8, but he was something other worldly.