Conquer Club

barterer2002 wrote:Come on LMS, keep fighting the man. You can't let the tighties win again. (wait, I'm not the man am I?)

The real question is, are the tighties whities?

L M S wrote:

barterer2002 wrote:Come on LMS, keep fighting the man. You can't let the tighties win again. (wait, I'm not the man am I?)

I'm...............just.......................so.......................tired....................................................

Is it getting darker in here?

C'mere hun...I've got your happy juice....

Who else is excited? Not the gamemakers that is for sure

MegasWoman wrote:

L M S wrote:

barterer2002 wrote:Come on LMS, keep fighting the man. You can't let the tighties win again. (wait, I'm not the man am I?)

I'm...............just.......................so.......................tired....................................................

Is it getting darker in here?

C'mere hun...I've got your happy juice....

like nitro pills for the soul.

danryan wrote:

barterer2002 wrote:Come on LMS, keep fighting the man. You can't let the tighties win again. (wait, I'm not the man am I?)

The real question is, are the tighties whities?

I don't think there's any reason to bring race into this clan discussion Dan...

L M S wrote:Why does everything have to be so damn difficult?
Just play some games and have a some fun...for fucks sake.
Everything is so fucking serious and heatedly debated around here, hell, just start some games with the people that want to play and be done with it for crying out loud. Everyone's opinion doesn't fucking matter all the time, whomever's idea it was holds all the cards and makes all the decisions......DONE! Everyone else, play or don't play in accordance or start your own fucking tourney.
Too easy I guess.

This may be my favorite post I've ever seen in a CC forum.

We're not quite done with the rankings yet but it occurs to me that a tie is possible. Currently teams are going to be ranked on their mean grade. For a first tiebreaker we'll take the median and for a second tiebreaker we'll take the team with the best top 3 rankings, then best top 6 then top 9. Hopefully that'll break any and all ties at that point (I have not yet looked)

I want to make sure I'm interpreting map usage correctly:

"Each clan may use the same map only twice in its home set and may not use Classic more than once (since it will also be used for the 41st game). If a map is repeated within the rules the players must be different in each series."

Suppose I have two players that choose Arms Race as their home map [Call them A and B], and two players from the opponents choose Arms Race as their home map [Call them C and D].

From how I'm reading this rule, this would be okay:
A vs C
B vs D
C vs B
D vs A

But this wouldn't:
A vs C
B vs D
C vs A
D vs B

And this wouldn't:
A vs C
B vs D
C vs A
D vs A

Am I getting this right?

?
You gave me headache!

You can play once on your home map and max of 5 singles all together.

So yes it is possible to play 3 times on Arms.

That's the way I see it.

benga wrote:You can play once on your home map and max of 5 singles all together.

So yes it is possible to play 3 times on Arms.

This is the way I read it. If I play AoR1 in our home sets I can only do it in one home set. But if the other clan throws two AoR1 series at us I can play in both of those. So 3 times.

thats how i read it too chemefreak

yes, the restriction is on how you can create your own home games. You can throw whoever you want at the road games even if they played you on your home maps (as long as you're staying under 5 sets per player). So Benga, Chem and LV have it right here.

Interesting seedings as some ranked on general clan strength while some went deeper and ranked on 1v1 strength.

CLAN SEEDINGS

Empire 1.9 (high 1, low 7)
FOED 3.4 (high 1, low 6)
Nemisis 3.9 (high 1 low 6)
Generation One 4.5 (high 1 low 10)
Imperial Dragoons 4.6 (high 1 low
++The Legion++ 5.0 (high 2 low 7)
Mythology 5.2 (high 2 low
AOD 7.5 (high 3 low 11) Top 3 tiebreaker 16, top 6 tiebreaker 38, top 9 tiebreaker 62
The Devil's Brigade 7.5 (high 4, low 10) top 3 tiebreaker 16, top 6 tiebreaker 38, top 9 tiebreaker 63
One Step Ahead 8.5 (high 3, low 11)
Kill on Arrival 10.2 (high 9 low 11)
The Fourth Crusade 10.4 (high 9 low 11)

So the play in round will feature

Imperial Dragoons vs. The Fourth Crusade
++The Legion++ vs. Kill on Arrival
Mythology vs. One Step Ahead
AOD vs. The Devil's Brigade


Empire, FOED, Nemesis and Generation One have byes for this round. ONce its done the remaining 8 teams will be resorted into a 1-8 bracket based on the rankings above.

lol, DB just behind on tiebreak.
Not bad rankings, it's nice to get a bye in the first round, tho I wouldn't have minded getting my fingers wet early on

barterer2002 wrote:Imperial Dragoons 4.6 (high 1 low

Took me just a bit to figure out the Cool Dude means we had a low of 8

Damn smilies

MudPuppy wrote:

barterer2002 wrote:Imperial Dragoons 4.6 (high 1 low

Took me just a bit to figure out the Cool Dude means we had a low of 8

I totally missed that. lol

Good luck to everyone! I wish we were playing in the play-in. I want blood!!!!

ZionT wrote:

MudPuppy wrote:

barterer2002 wrote:Imperial Dragoons 4.6 (high 1 low

Took me just a bit to figure out the Cool Dude means we had a low of 8

I totally missed that. lol

Good luck to everyone! I wish we were playing in the play-in. I want blood!!!!

Im sure alot of the clans in the play-ins would gladly take byes and get further in this... Trade!

The Legion being so low ranked surprised me. They would have been my #1 (including my clan). They started as all 1v1 players back in the day, and I know they still have a hell of a lot of studs there.

Bart, is it possible to set up a bracket showing how this progresses through each round?

Good luck everyone.

Lubawski wrote:The Legion being so low ranked surprised me. They would have been my #1 (including my clan). They started as all 1v1 players back in the day, and I know they still have a hell of a lot of studs there.

Bart, is it possible to set up a bracket showing how this progresses through each round?

Good luck everyone.

The ranks seem to based on current clan setups (an argument GK and I had). A lot of the clan players who are commonly winning 1v1 tournaments are not in the top 4 clans rated here. There are some really good 1v1 player depth in clans like Legion and I suspect the ratings will not play out like CCup1. We should probably have Bart tell us at the end how close or far off each team's rankings were.

I based mine off the strength of 1 v 1 players. Empire, ID, G1, Legion, and Nemesis all have very good ones and they were my top 5.

Its definitely interesting to see the rankings. Some based on a perceived 1v1 strength, others on clan strength. The lesser known clans tended to finish towards the bottom but that doesn't mean they can't impress and win a round or two.

All clans should have their instructions at this point. I see 3 of the 4 war threads are up right now. I'll PM the 4th today to see their status.

Lubawski wrote:Bart, is it possible to set up a bracket showing how this progresses through each round?

Since this is more of an NHL-style system (as opposed to a normal bracket) it's harder to show how it will progress since it re-seeds after the first round. But here's my unofficial response. Leave it to Bart to correct any mistakes.

First Round
(5) Imperial Dragoons
(12) The Fourth Crusade

(6) ++The Legion++
(11) Kill on Arrival

(7) Mythology
(10)One Step Ahead

(8) AOD
(9) The Devil's Brigade



Second Round
Matchup A
(1) Empire
Lowest Ranked Winning Clan from First Round

Matchup B
(4) Generation One
Fourth Lowest Ranked Winning Clan Seed from First Round

Matchup C
(2) FOED
Third Lowest Ranked Winning Clan from First Round

Matchup D
(3) Nemisis
Second Lowest Ranked Winning Clan from First Round



Third Round
Winner of Matchup A
Winner of Matchup B

Winner of Matchup C
Winner of Matchup D



Fourth Round
Winner of Both Third Round Matchups

So to take it one step further, chalk would be:

Round 2
ID v G1
Legion v Nemesis
Myth v FOED
AOD v Empire

That is an insanely good matchup across the board, actually. I can't pick a winner easily in any of those. And I don't know that chalk is safe in round 1, since DB just narrowly beat AOD in a challenge.

danryan wrote:So to take it one step further, chalk would be:

Round 2
ID v G1
Legion v Nemesis
Myth v FOED
AOD v Empire

That is an insanely good matchup across the board, actually. I can't pick a winner easily in any of those. And I don't know that chalk is safe in round 1, since DB just narrowly beat AOD in a challenge.

It really is tough to tell, especially as 1v1 plays very different than team games. Would not be shocked at all to see some big upsets here early.