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Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:23 pm
by Chuuuuck
Still confused...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:42 pm
by Lindax
Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

Lx

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:54 pm
by Chuuuuck
Lindax wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

Lx


Just updated the 3rd post. We are up to 11 now. Signups have only been open for a couple of days. The higher ranked clans have typically discussed things longer and take a little more time to start joining. I fully expect them all to be in here playing with maybe 1 or 2 opting out.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:56 pm
by freakns
Lindax wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

Lx

11 so far... top clans will probably sign up in last two days. until then they will pretend they are discussing will they play, like they have something else to do :D (and we all know only TSM are questionable as they are use to have 16 months break between clan wars :D)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:59 pm
by Chuuuuck
Give me feedback on this for a Cup tied rule. Every clan can bring in one player who isn't cup tied (I think this helps with normal movements throught caln). But that one player still has to sit out 1 entire round with the new clan. i.e. if they join while the clan is in the final 8, they have to sit out the entire semi finals and could start participating in the finals if the clan made it.

After 1 player who was cup tied has been added to a clan, any other players who are cup tied that have to join that clan are ineligible.

A clan can not pick which one they use if another one comes along later. They can only use the first player that was officially a part of the clan (shown on the usergroup roster).

This can still be discussed, I am just trying to be creative in fixing the issues we have had in the past. I know all of you are just saying "keep the cup tied rule" because most of you are very committed to your clan and aren't going anywhere. But each year I have had to deal with a handful of guys who truly just moved on and them sitting out for a long time when in reality, they were not making a major impact in the war.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:19 pm
by freakns
Chuuuuck wrote:Give me feedback on this for a Cup tied rule. Every clan can bring in one player who isn't cup tied (I think this helps with normal movements throught caln). But that one player still has to sit out 1 entire round with the new clan. i.e. if they join while the clan is in the final 8, they have to sit out the entire semi finals and could start participating in the finals if the clan made it.

After 1 player who was cup tied has been added to a clan, any other players who are cup tied that have to join that clan are ineligible.

A clan can not pick which one they use if another one comes along later. They can only use the first player that was officially a part of the clan (shown on the usergroup roster).

This can still be discussed, I am just trying to be creative in fixing the issues we have had in the past. I know all of you are just saying "keep the cup tied rule" because most of you are very committed to your clan and aren't going anywhere. But each year I have had to deal with a handful of guys who truly just moved on and them sitting out for a long time when in reality, they were not making a major impact in the war.

im all for keep the cup tied rule.
big clans are fishing for new members. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. so if mid lvl clan have one good player, that player will be approached by at least 50% of top clan leaders, and as a bait they will use "we are still in CC" if nothing else works.
but if you simply must have something, then add this. if member X wants to move from clan A to clan B, he is allowed to participate for clan B only if clan A is still in contention after the round during which he made a move. meaning, if during last 16 player X decide to go from clan A to clan B, he will be allowed to play for clan B in last 8 only if clan A has progressed to last 8. this will allow members of TOFU, KoRT, TSM, THOTA to change sides, but will not allow clans trying to strengthen by picking up good players from less good clans.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:08 pm
by Keefie
If someone changes clan tough. The rule should be that a player can only play for one clan. Period.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:10 pm
by Rodion
How about the following rules:

a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:32 pm
by freakns
Rodion wrote:How about the following rules:

a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round

thats what i said... i think this can be tolerated.

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:41 pm
by WPBRJ
Rodion wrote:How about the following rules:

a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round


like this

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:47 pm
by Bruceswar
Rodion wrote:How about the following rules:

a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round



I agree with this also.

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:49 pm
by Rodion
freakns wrote:
Rodion wrote:How about the following rules:

a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round

thats what i said... i think this can be tolerated.


I skipped your last post for whatever reason, but yes, you said it first.

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:36 pm
by Chuuuuck
I like that a lot. Solves all foreseeable problems that I can think of. We will most likely move forward with that unless I hear more discussion.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:43 pm
by woopintroysbutt
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Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:10 pm
by Keefie
a) if a player plays for a clan in a given round, he is cup-tied for that round and cannot play for another clan in that same round
b) if his old clan loses a round in which the player has played, that player is cup-tied and cannot play for another clan at all
c) if his old clan wins a round in which the player has played, he is not cup-tied and can freely play for his new clan at the very next round


Can we add one more to this:

d) If his new clan are drawn against his old clan in a later round then the player is cup-tied and cannot play.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:17 pm
by Bruceswar
I like that rule. Lets move forward :D

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:29 am
by jetsetwilly
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:00 am
by dazza2008
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Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:30 am
by Chuuuuck
Keefie wrote:d) If his new clan are drawn against his old clan in a later round then the player is cup-tied and cannot play.


I am going to move forward with the overall rule. I don't see any reason to add this part though. If both clans progress, then the switch still seems legitimate and I think they can play.

Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:53 am
by Chuuuuck
OP updated with cup tied rules.

3rd post updated with signups. We now have 14 clans. I still expect us to be in the 30+ range.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:06 pm
by pearljamrox2
Dynasty is in.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:49 pm
by ScaryTeded
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Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:36 pm
by freakns
Chuuuuck wrote:OP updated with cup tied rules.

you are telling me that i actually suggested something good? are you drunk? :D

btw, 3rd place clan war? i think this one shouldnt stand, ppl wouldnt care after loosing semis...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:54 pm
by xman5151
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:16 pm
by Dako
3rd place is nothing. And 2nd place as well. Only winner gets all ^^.