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Chariot of Fire wrote:I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Chuuuuck wrote:Sorry, all, the nature of my business I just get really busy at times and less busy at other times. I have been busy lately and when that happens I usually check games/forums quickly but am a little more slow to update.
Anyway, I started to compile and have decided I am going to ask for votes again. Many of the votes I got were not complete in the manner I need them and on top of that I only received 14 votes which is less than I received the last time around.
A lot of clans are now signing up for Conqueror's Cup 2 that were not in the first one and I think they will now have an interest in completing these votes which they did not have the interest before. So I will try to get more votes.
For the votes that I got, I will quote those PMs back to their senders so they can update them and send them again and it will be minimal work for them. I will ask the ones that didn't complete their votes to fix them so that all votes are uniform and easy to put together for the data needed.
I promise to have these compiled as soon as I get more votes flowing in. I am going to put a deadline of 1 week from today on receiving votes and I will probably hound the leaders every day for the votes.
jpcloet wrote:This is not like any other war as the clans do not get to pick and choose who they face. This is a private event and privilege rules have not been clearly defined yet for these types of things. There are 3 examples and both CCup1 and CL2 and CL3 were all handled completely different. We don't have the consistency we should have for various reasons.
As for medals, only the winners will receive medals in a private event. Again, new standards have to be created around formats and minimum sizes etc. This is a good example of what the new CLA should be consulted on. The CCup2 does not meet the "open negotiation" current rule, nor 2 or 3 of the new rules coming that chuuuuck is aware of. All the leauges had Top-Player awards and that is something that Chuuuck and I should be discussing now rather than later.
Chuuuuck wrote:Chuuuuck wrote:Sorry, all, the nature of my business I just get really busy at times and less busy at other times. I have been busy lately and when that happens I usually check games/forums quickly but am a little more slow to update.
Anyway, I started to compile and have decided I am going to ask for votes again. Many of the votes I got were not complete in the manner I need them and on top of that I only received 14 votes which is less than I received the last time around.
A lot of clans are now signing up for Conqueror's Cup 2 that were not in the first one and I think they will now have an interest in completing these votes which they did not have the interest before. So I will try to get more votes.
For the votes that I got, I will quote those PMs back to their senders so they can update them and send them again and it will be minimal work for them. I will ask the ones that didn't complete their votes to fix them so that all votes are uniform and easy to put together for the data needed.
I promise to have these compiled as soon as I get more votes flowing in. I am going to put a deadline of 1 week from today on receiving votes and I will probably hound the leaders every day for the votes.
I posted this in Power Rankings, I will be trying to get more votes for the power rankings because I did not receive near as many as I would like. Everyone listed as a leader in their group should expect a PM soon.
Rodion wrote:Chuuuuck wrote:Chuuuuck wrote:Sorry, all, the nature of my business I just get really busy at times and less busy at other times. I have been busy lately and when that happens I usually check games/forums quickly but am a little more slow to update.
Anyway, I started to compile and have decided I am going to ask for votes again. Many of the votes I got were not complete in the manner I need them and on top of that I only received 14 votes which is less than I received the last time around.
A lot of clans are now signing up for Conqueror's Cup 2 that were not in the first one and I think they will now have an interest in completing these votes which they did not have the interest before. So I will try to get more votes.
For the votes that I got, I will quote those PMs back to their senders so they can update them and send them again and it will be minimal work for them. I will ask the ones that didn't complete their votes to fix them so that all votes are uniform and easy to put together for the data needed.
I promise to have these compiled as soon as I get more votes flowing in. I am going to put a deadline of 1 week from today on receiving votes and I will probably hound the leaders every day for the votes.
I posted this in Power Rankings, I will be trying to get more votes for the power rankings because I did not receive near as many as I would like. Everyone listed as a leader in their group should expect a PM soon.
Does that mean that clans with more leaders have more influence on determining the outcome of the rankings or will PMs just serve as information and each clan is entitled to 1 ballot?
This is not like any other war as the clans do not get to pick and choose who they face. This is a private event and privilege rules have not been clearly defined yet for these types of things.
Chuuuuck wrote:I am trying to get a more complete list of all active clans and then the PMs will be sent back out.
And yes, they are right, 1 ballot per clan. I just send the PM to everyone listed as a clan leader to make sure each clan gets the PM and is aware that I want their votes.
jpcloet wrote:Not sure I buy that.
So I can change the game types too then, and the player counts, and the map rules then?
What happens when 2 clans cannot come to an agreement?
Chuuuuck wrote:ljex answered your question correctly jp.
Here is what I don't understand jp, you have said in the past and are making the argument again that each war in this challenge does not deserve a medal for various reasons. I have never seen anyone else who joins this competition agree with that. Every clan that has ever joined and played in this competition and voiced any opinion on the matter has always said they joined with the understanding that each round counts as a war and that is the way they prefer it. Why do you feel so adamant to go against the grain of what seems to be a consensus of how everyone feels? The whole idea of this tournament was formed around the idea of grouping together clan wars that were already happening into one bigger common goal of being crowned the winner in the end.
On top of that, every poll I have seen on it has shown that this is one of the most (if not the actual most) popular events in the clan world. I think the views of the threads and posts on the topics speak for themselves. And I agree with CoF that removing the "clan war" status from every round makes it lose some of its lust. Why would you want to do anything to make one of the most popular events less appealing? It seems to me we have the ability to govern ourselves on what counts and what doesn't and I don't really see many people thinking these shouldn't count except you and unfortunately for me this is frustrating because you are the only one that controls the power to do anything about it.
laughingcavalier wrote:In the tourney section there's certainly no rule to say "this is a weak tourney and you're a strong player so you don't deserve a medal."
angola wrote:laughingcavalier wrote:In the tourney section there's certainly no rule to say "this is a weak tourney and you're a strong player so you don't deserve a medal."
I think this is a fair comparison.
You can win a three-round, 16-person tournament for a medal. Or you can win the Map-Blaster tournament and play more than 500 games to do so.
You get a medal for each. And I don't see why you wouldn't get a medal for each round of the CC Cup.
jpcloet wrote:I get the inherent agreement that they should all be clan wars. I'm simply challenging you like I did in the first few pms to think a little differently.
Here's another one. Given #1 will say play #32, how does not equate to farming? I don't want to get into a situation where some qualify for medals and some don't.
Also, given you know that new rules are coming in on forfeits and penalties, as well as player maximum restrictions, are you willing to alter the format and wait until those are announced?
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