[POLY] 1st POLY Clan Challenge - FALL Wins 26-15 Final 6/28

[josko.ri]

S&M is in.

First contact: josko.ri
Second contact: merch313

I have read and understand rules.

I think we should extend the deadline a little bit, or at least send pm to clans who didnt sign in asking them to reconsider. I am optimistic that doing that would increase number of participants, potentially close to or even have 16.

[uckuki]

in

I'll send pm to clan leaders. when do we want to start this?

[uckuki]

Hi,

VDLL won't participate.

Kind regards,
EW/Noël

[InnyaFacce]

TANK SQUAD will not be participating

Have A Good Day
InnyaFacce

[uckuki]

Thanks for the invite, but MMM is going to sit this one out...

[josko.ri]

Thank you for sending pm to clan leaders. Hope we will find more participants. What about LHDD? I expected to see them playing, Donelladan was very active in the thread.

[josko.ri]

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I'll send pm to clan leaders. when do we want to start this?

maybe 1 more week until clans give back answer, with hope to reach wanted 16 clans.

[Donelladan]

Thank you for sending pm to clan leaders. Hope we will find more participants. What about LHDD? I expected to see them playing, Donelladan was very active in the thread.

I'd love to play, but it looks like we won't be able to reach 12 players to participate. Seems I am not persuasive enough

[josko.ri]

Thank you for sending pm to clan leaders. Hope we will find more participants. What about LHDD? I expected to see them playing, Donelladan was very active in the thread.

I'd love to play, but it looks like we won't be able to reach 12 players to participate. Seems I am not persuasive enough

You don't need 12 players but 10 if everyone will play maximum of 4 games. And there is no list of players when signing up so you don't need to provide final list, everyone can play afterwards as well.

[benga]

Thank you for sending pm to clan leaders. Hope we will find more participants. What about LHDD? I expected to see them playing, Donelladan was very active in the thread.

I'd love to play, but it looks like we won't be able to reach 12 players to participate. Seems I am not persuasive enough

wasn't it said 10?

osa has 10, so we will play

[Donelladan]

Ah, it changed isn't it ? I thought I read 12 the first time I read the OP.
Well we have 9 right now, but if it's 10, only one more may be more manageable

[josko.ri]

I think it never state in the OP minimal number of players. I come with 10 because 10*4 = 40 if everyone will play maximal 4 sets. And one player who will play 41st tie break game is allowed to play in 5 sets.

[benga]

I think it never state in the OP minimal number of players. I come with 10 because 10*4 = 40 if everyone will play maximal 4 sets. And one player who will play 41st tie break game is allowed to play in 5 sets.

it said 12, it was copy paste from 1v1

[josko.ri]

I think it never state in the OP minimal number of players. I come with 10 because 10*4 = 40 if everyone will play maximal 4 sets. And one player who will play 41st tie break game is allowed to play in 5 sets.

it said 12, it was copy paste from 1v1

No it doesn't, this is copy paste from rules:

The purpose here is to show the depth of a clan rather than merely that there are 1 or 2 stud players in it. With this in mind, each clan must provide at least 10 different participants for a war, with each participant playing a maximum of 4 series out of the 40 (2 home and 2 away). Clans can negotiate to lift the 2 + 2 limit where one player can play all 4 series home or away. 41st Game series does NOT count towards player’s game series total. Player cannot repeat

[benga]

I think it never state in the OP minimal number of players. I come with 10 because 10*4 = 40 if everyone will play maximal 4 sets. And one player who will play 41st tie break game is allowed to play in 5 sets.

it said 12, it was copy paste from 1v1

No it doesn't, this is copy paste from rules:

The purpose here is to show the depth of a clan rather than merely that there are 1 or 2 stud players in it. With this in mind, each clan must provide at least 10 different participants for a war, with each participant playing a maximum of 4 series out of the 40 (2 home and 2 away). Clans can negotiate to lift the 2 + 2 limit where one player can play all 4 series home or away. 41st Game series does NOT count towards player’s game series total. Player cannot repeat

annoying and wrong, it was copy pasted from original 1v1 thread, this was edited later

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[Donelladan]

Well, it's not so important if it was there or not before. What matters is that now the minimum is 10 players

uckucki, I have one questions concerning that :

PLAYER RESTRICTIONS & ELIGIBILITY
The purpose here is to show the depth of a clan rather than merely that there are 1 or 2 stud players in it. With this in mind, each clan must provide at least 10 different participants for a war, with each participant playing a maximum of 4 series out of the 40 (2 home and 2 away). Clans can negotiate to lift the 2 + 2 limit where one player can play all 4 series home or away.

Why limiting it to 2 home and 2 away and not only 4 games for a war, allowing some players to play 4 homes and some to play 4 away ? I understand I can negotiate this with the opponent, but I don't see the point of this rule in the first place.
Any chance you remove it ?

[josko.ri]

I think it never state in the OP minimal number of players. I come with 10 because 10*4 = 40 if everyone will play maximal 4 sets. And one player who will play 41st tie break game is allowed to play in 5 sets.

it said 12, it was copy paste from 1v1

No it doesn't, this is copy paste from rules:

The purpose here is to show the depth of a clan rather than merely that there are 1 or 2 stud players in it. With this in mind, each clan must provide at least 10 different participants for a war, with each participant playing a maximum of 4 series out of the 40 (2 home and 2 away). Clans can negotiate to lift the 2 + 2 limit where one player can play all 4 series home or away. 41st Game series does NOT count towards player’s game series total. Player cannot repeat

annoying and wrong, it was copy pasted from original 1v1 thread, this was edited later

show: player restrictions

What I copied is directly from the OP, I don't know where do you find your version with 12 players, it is not in the OP.

uckuki, can you clarify which of two quotes, benga's or mine, is correct?

[josko.ri]

Well, it's not so important if it was there or not before. What matters is that now the minimum is 10 players

uckucki, I have one questions concerning that :

PLAYER RESTRICTIONS & ELIGIBILITY
The purpose here is to show the depth of a clan rather than merely that there are 1 or 2 stud players in it. With this in mind, each clan must provide at least 10 different participants for a war, with each participant playing a maximum of 4 series out of the 40 (2 home and 2 away). Clans can negotiate to lift the 2 + 2 limit where one player can play all 4 series home or away.

Why limiting it to 2 home and 2 away and not only 4 games for a war, allowing some players to play 4 homes and some to play 4 away ? I understand I can negotiate this with the opponent, but I don't see the point of this rule in the first place.
Any chance you remove it ?

I think it is good rule to show depth of a clan. If clan has depth then it will have players who can at the same time play home and away. In contrary, if clan has no depth then it will have for example someone who is specialist for several maps and know to play only those while will not have overall depth to play both home and away sets. I like variety rather than being specialists on particular maps.

[Donelladan]

josko.ri, you didn't read carefully benga post. He said it was edited. So it is not anymore visible in the OP, because the first post have been edited and this restriction from 12 players have been removed. That's what benga is saying. He also agree that at the moment this restriction does not exist.

I think it is good rule to show depth of a clan. If clan has depth then it will have players who can at the same time play home and away. In contrary, if clan has no depth then it will have for example someone who is specialist for several maps and know to play only those while will not have overall depth to play both home and away sets. I like variety rather than being specialists on particular maps.

If one player play 4 home set, he need to be able to play on 12 different maps.
If 2 players play 2 home set, they can repeat all the same maps, making it only 6 different maps. So I actually think allowing people to play 4 home shows the depth of a clan as well.

With the current rules if I have 20 players, I could actually make all home game using only 3 maps.

Therefore I still don't see the point of the rule.
Would it bother you if this rule was removed ?

I just want to flexibility.

[josko.ri]

josko.ri, you didn't read carefully benga post. He said it was edited. So it is not anymore visible in the OP, because the first post have been edited and this restriction from 12 players have been removed. That's what benga is saying. He also agree that at the moment this restriction does not exist.

I think it is good rule to show depth of a clan. If clan has depth then it will have players who can at the same time play home and away. In contrary, if clan has no depth then it will have for example someone who is specialist for several maps and know to play only those while will not have overall depth to play both home and away sets. I like variety rather than being specialists on particular maps.

If one player play 4 home set, he need to be able to play on 12 different maps.
If 2 players play 2 home set, they can repeat all the same maps, making it only 6 different maps. So I actually think allowing people to play 4 home shows the depth of a clan as well.

With the current rules if I have 20 players, I could actually make all home game using only 3 maps.

Therefore I still don't see the point of the rule.
Would it bother you if this rule was removed ?

I just want to flexibility.

It will not bother me if it will be removed. I just told that I like that rule but for me as MoW it will be easier to manage my team if that rule doesn't exist.

[uckuki]

Uckuki,

Thank you for the reminder and we discussed it at TOP but decided that we would prefer the usual clan war , not POLY.

Good luck in the tournament.

Regards,

Narutoserigala

you are both correct. i did copy paste it and I changed it.
I changed it to 10 players cause it's doable that way. Obviously I'd rather a clan have more than 10 players
available because of unforeseen circumstances.

various competitions have the home/away split. clans can negotiate to remove the limit, so 1 player
can play 3 or 4 home or away sets. I've thought about removing the rule, but decided not to cause every change
adds more discussion and prolongs the event. at this point all I want is to start the damned thing.
alternatively, I can edit the rule as optional where 2/2 split is a default but can be changed without penalties.
something like that?

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do we need 1 more week for signups? all the feedback I'm getting is negative - not enough players
or not enough interest.

[Donelladan]

I'd appreciate if you give us until monday, but even then I am not sure LHDD will participate, so not sure you should extend just for one clan...

[uckuki]

ok. make Monday the deadline?
no extensions after that?

[josko.ri]

ok. make Monday the deadline?
no extensions after that?

If you have pmed clan leaders to reconsider joining then Monday is ok.