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[CC13] R2 S&M (33) vs AWOL (16) - S&M Win - Final 6/9/23

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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:17 pm

Going to be a lot closer than people think.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:06 am

Jdsizzleslice wrote:Going to be a lot closer than people think.

No doubt in that, AWOL has many talented players and their playing style is what Croatians call "in spite".
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:17 am

josko.ri wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Going to be a lot closer than people think.

No doubt in that, AWOL has many talented players and their playing style is what Croatians call "in spite".

in answer to both parts - we do?
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:29 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Going to be a lot closer than people think.

No doubt in that, AWOL has many talented players and their playing style is what Croatians call "in spite".

in answer to both parts - we do?

Yeah, I think so. There is no irony in my comment.
But, you will hardly understand meaning od playing "in spite" unless you are from Croatia.

For example, Goran Ivanisevic won Wimbledon 2001 by playing "in spite".
He is the only winner of a tennis Grand Slam ever who won it by entering the tournament with wild-card, as he was 125th ranked player in the world at that time so he could not qualify for the tournament based on his rankings.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm

josko.ri wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Going to be a lot closer than people think.

No doubt in that, AWOL has many talented players and their playing style is what Croatians call "in spite".

in answer to both parts - we do?

Yeah, I think so. There is no irony in my comment.
But, you will hardly understand meaning od playing "in spite" unless you are from Croatia.

For example, Goran Ivanisevic won Wimbledon 2001 by playing "in spite".
He is the only winner of a tennis Grand Slam ever who won it by entering the tournament with wild-card, as he was 125th ranked player in the world at that time so he could not qualify for the tournament based on his rankings.



One of my all time favorite tennis players and one of the craziest tournament runs you'll ever see. I hope that he has not paid for a drink in Croatia since 2001.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:52 pm

never heard of him
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:19 am

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=22365930

When I openly tell that my team has superior strategy than Trafalagar's in unlimites fort games, here is a obvious evidence.

In the game above, despite my team getting first turn, we have 270 total troops and AWOL has 278 total troops and i is AWOL's turn so it willbe 270v290 troop count at the time when they make deploy.

Yet, I claim our win is already secured there. Despite getting bad dice (how else can we have minus 8 troops with plus 15 deploy?), our superior strategy brought us to the onbivously winning position.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:21 am

i'll tell trafalgar to stop telling everyone he's so good at unlimited fort games.

oh. he's never said that?

cool.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:23 am

He joined almost all of our home set unlimited fort games, obviously he is confident that he can play them well.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:10 am

obviously!
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:06 am

Yeah, it's really rough when Trafalgar insists that we have a bunch of unlimited zombie sunny games as home games.

Oh. Wait. Those are your home games? Congrats on being able to play your own settings. We're all incredibly proud of you. :roll:
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:41 am

Nut Shot Scott wrote:Yeah, it's really rough when Trafalgar insists that we have a bunch of unlimited zombie sunny games as home games.

Oh. Wait. Those are your home games? Congrats on being able to play your own settings. We're all incredibly proud of you. :roll:

No no no, mldint get it wrong. My team is hammering Trafalgar on away games as well.

See for instance Labyrinth, first blood by S&M completed, desopite second start:

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=22364534
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:53 am

josko.ri wrote:
Nut Shot Scott wrote:Yeah, it's really rough when Trafalgar insists that we have a bunch of unlimited zombie sunny games as home games.

Oh. Wait. Those are your home games? Congrats on being able to play your own settings. We're all incredibly proud of you. :roll:

No no no, mldint get it wrong. My team is hammering Trafalgar on away games as well.

See for instance Labyrinth, first blood by S&M completed, desopite second start:

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=22364534


Yeah, We had that game, but dice and not great listening said otherwise. But sure.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby SoN!c on Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:13 pm

PSY-OPS! You only need Psy-Ops when you think it's gonna be close so that's a big compliment =D>
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:12 pm

How do you explain my 75% win percentage in H2H and poly games against you, josko? I must be an incredibly superior strategist.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby xroads on Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:45 pm

Nut Shot Scott wrote:How do you explain my 75% win percentage in H2H and poly games against you, josko? I must be an incredibly superior strategist.



It has to be the dice or bad drops.

There is absolutely no way anyone can beat him otherwise.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:22 pm

Nut Shot Scott wrote:How do you explain my 75% win percentage in H2H and poly games against you, josko? I must be an incredibly superior strategist.

I see you calculated Tribes are multis (more than two sides in the game) then you should also calculated Game 19571801 so percentage is lower.

Sample size is too small (about 10 games) and most ofthe games were played on your home maps.

In this war our games seems togo 2-1 in my favor so as sample of games increases, yoor winning % decreases.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:39 am

I love this so much.

Josko: "I am the best because I am winning games on maps and settings that I play better than anyone"

Also josko: "Your wins don't count because most of them were on your maps and settings."

If you don't see the comedy in this, I cannot help you :lol:
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby i-andrei on Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:12 am

It's statistically impossible for josko not to be right.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:59 am

Nut Shot Scott wrote:I love this so much.

Josko: "I am the best because I am winning games on maps and settings that I play better than anyone"

Also josko: "Your wins don't count because most of them were on your maps and settings."

If you don't see the comedy in this, I cannot help you :lol:

On the first quote:
You can see my statisstics in Clan League and ClanCup inlast year and also before (you compile this statistics, no?) And you will see that I more frequently play away maps than home maps yet acheiving high winning % (69% in CCup12 for instance, where opponents were top 3 ranked clans). Also these away games that I play are not always the ones that I want to play and am skilled at but, in contrary, I take many such games that nobody else from my clan desired to play.

On the second quote:
You only quoted second part of my response (selectively the least important one, of course). The first part is more important and it is that total number of our H2H games (around 10) is statistically insignificant. I am sure there are many players on this site who played 1 game vs me and won, does that give them credibility to brag around that they have 100% H2H winning percentage vs me?
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:56 am

It does when you do the same thing lmao
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:57 am

Also. I'm not bragging.

When you figure out what I'm doing, let me know. I will not hold my breath.
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby josko.ri on Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:20 am

Why is bragging necssarily a bad characteristics?

In my eyes it is very positive, if you have something supported by objective facts to brag about then why not to brag?

Whenever you send CV for a job application, you afe acfually bragging about your past achievements, dont you?
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby rockfist on Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:43 am

Josko,

I think everyone knows your skill level. Those who profess not to, are one of three things, 1) new to the site. 2) intentionally ignorant. 3) lying to wind you up. I’m not sure any of those things should bother you.

And you are correct: I will attest to the fact that when you take on away games that aren’t your strong suit it drags down your winning percentage because I keep track of my own and my clan home percentage is over 10% higher than away. That’s over a few more than ten games too. ;)
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Re: [CC13] R2 S&M vs AWOL

Postby detlef on Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:45 am

josko.ri wrote:Why is bragging necssarily a bad characteristics?

In my eyes it is very positive, if you have something supported by objective facts to brag about then why not to brag?

Whenever you send CV for a job application, you afe acfually bragging about your past achievements, dont you?

It's all about circumstance. In the case of a job application, there's an end goal of convincing someone that you're the best candidate for the job. Even still, there's a balance one should strike between confidently selling their qualifications and not coming off like a braggart. Mostly because few businesses want to hire someone who is under the impression that the place was rudderless and lost before they came around. That they were some sort of savior. Because that kind of employee is annoying as hell, and crossing the line between confidence and bragging is often an indicator of that.

But here it's even sillier.
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