oliverkelly wrote:Is there an order to the appearance with nuclear or other spoils.
For example if you are playing nuclear and you get dealt New York, could someone else have it at the same time ?
If you play the spoil, could New York appear immediately for someone else in the next turn, or does it have to wait until all other territories have been dealt out ?
I tried searching but couldn't find an answer.
Depends on the size of the map. Since you said New York, I'll assume you're talking Classic map. Duplicates there are possible only if there are 9 or more players, and even then they are relatively unlikely.
The system will
not give out a duplicate card until all territories have been covered, but duplicates do occur. They only occur if there are large numbers of players in the game or it's on a small map.
"Average" scenario (Classic map, 6 players) -- there are 42 territories on the map. If there are six players in the game, and they all have five cards, that's still only 30 cards, so there will never be any duplicates.
Same map with 9 players -- still 42 territories, but if each player has 5 cards, that's 45 cards, so there will be 3 duplicates. It's rare for all the players to have 5 cards at once, but it is possible. So, you can say that with 9 players on Classic map, duplicates are possible but rather unlikely.
Same map with 12 players -- still 42 territories, but if each player has 5 cards, it's now 60 cards. Furthermore, even if each player has only 4 cards, that's 48 cards, so duplicates are a lot more common in this scenario.
Large map - Stalingrad (99 territories) -- even with 12 players holding 5 cards each, that's only 60 cards, and there are 99 territories, so there will NEVER be a duplicate. (Well, there could be in a Battle Royale, but that's a vanishingly small percentage of games, so we'll ignore it.)
Small map - Luxembourg (19 territories) -- this is the other side of the coin. Even with 4 players holding 5 cards each, that's 20 cards for only 19 territories, so there will be at least one duplicate.
Same map with 9 players -- Still only 19 territories, and if each player has 2 cards that's 18 or almost all of them. If there are 9 players holding an average of 3 cards each, that's 27 cards so many duplicates will occur.
In summary, yes, duplicates do occur, but only on smaller maps and with more players. Classic and most of the early maps have 42 terts. You can go to the
Map Statistics page to look up how many territories are on the map you're playing. Add up how many cards the players have at their peak, subtract the number of terts, and that will tell you if a duplicate is possible in your game.
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:06 am
