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Revealing Roles

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:50 pm

When mafia is played in RL the dead people can see who everyone is at night. That got me thinking.

I would like to know who everyone is when I die. It makes it more interesting to continue watching the game and provides a good learning opportunity.

What do you guys think of revealing roles to those who are dead?

Possible downside: dead people can not come back as a replacement.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby Swifte on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 pm

Seems dangerous in the online world... what's to stop dead player from PMing roles to other players.... who'd know?

I think it's worth the wait, anyway.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:57 pm

There's the subject of integrity. I've found that if you don't plan to replace, if you PM the mod they have no problem telling you.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:00 pm

Swifte wrote:Seems dangerous in the online world... what's to stop dead player from PMing roles to other players.... who'd know?

I think it's worth the wait, anyway.


Really though everyone could just cheat anyway. I hope this does not happen in games but really it could.

I think revealing the roles would just have the same amount of trust involved as playing the game.

I wouldn't like this though. I like to follow the game when I die and try to figure it out still.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:06 pm

Swifte wrote:Seems dangerous in the online world... what's to stop dead player from PMing roles to other players.... who'd know?

I think it's worth the wait, anyway.

I agree with dazza's response to that. I think that anyone could screw the game up if they wanted.
strike wolf wrote:There's the subject of integrity. I've found that if you don't plan to replace, if you PM the mod they have no problem telling you.

I guess I hadn't really thought about that. I'll probably do that from now on. I would love to know everyone's role once I'm eliminated. Makes it much more entertaining I think.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby edocsil on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:25 pm

Swifte wrote:Seems dangerous in the online world... what's to stop dead player from PMing roles to other players.... who'd know?

I think it's worth the wait, anyway.


In a word: Blacklist
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:30 pm

edocsil wrote:
Swifte wrote:Seems dangerous in the online world... what's to stop dead player from PMing roles to other players.... who'd know?

I think it's worth the wait, anyway.


In a word: Blacklist

Still not worth the risk. Besides, it robs the moderator of the sociopathic joy of watching everyone run around in a maze confused out of their skulls while watching and knowing every detail. Who would give that up?
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby Rodion on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:39 pm

I've done that with Commander (I got the Unkown Mafia excel file and he got the FFVII excel file). I think it's not a problem if you trust the person you are dealing with.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:55 pm

Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby MoB Deadly on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:02 pm

Yeah it depends whos asking... If its someone who is respected and I can trust, I would tell them, otherwise I would say just follow the thread.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:03 pm

everywhere116 wrote:Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?


I decide what person gets what roles by names in hats.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:45 pm

strike wolf wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?


I decide what person gets what roles by names in hats.


How many names per hat?
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby pancakemix on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:52 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?


I decide what person gets what roles by names in hats.


How many names per hat?


I think he shakes up the names in his hand and drops each one into a hat labeled with a role, so it's 1:1.

I use random.org, fwiw.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:18 pm

pancakemix wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?


I decide what person gets what roles by names in hats.


How many names per hat?


I think he shakes up the names in his hand and drops each one into a hat labeled with a role, so it's 1:1.

I use random.org, fwiw.

I wonder how random random.org can be when it picks 7 eight times in a row.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby pancakemix on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:27 pm

strike wolf wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Excel files? My, you kids sure have all these new fancy gadgets now. Whatever happened to pen and notebook paper, and the roles decided by a deck of cards?


I decide what person gets what roles by names in hats.


How many names per hat?


I think he shakes up the names in his hand and drops each one into a hat labeled with a role, so it's 1:1.

I use random.org, fwiw.

I wonder how random random.org can be when it picks 7 eight times in a row.


The list randomizer works just fine.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby / on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:01 am

pancakemix wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
I think he shakes up the names in his hand and drops each one into a hat labeled with a role, so it's 1:1.

I use random.org, fwiw.

I wonder how random random.org can be when it picks 7 eight times in a row.


The list randomizer works just fine.

Note to self: random number generated games, 3 double voting lynch stoppers, and a couple of simultaneous serial-killing bodygaurds, what could go wrong?

Also, to stay on topic, I've been asked before a couple of times, and I trust well enough none of us would want to win that way. I don't mind, but I don't think I would want to know personally if I continued to follow the thread, it may be a bit frustrating, like watching a cheesy horror movie and rooting for the victims. :P
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby skillfusniper33 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:10 am

I personally love knowing all the roles in the game. I think it is more fun to follow and see others thought processes. I have even thought of kinda quitting playing games, and only hosting since I found it to be so much fun, but then again I do need to learn about some of the new inventive roles that are being come up with at times.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:42 am

Yeah, if people die and want to know some roles, I have no problem telling them. Especially if they're ineligible to replace people due to night action knowledge or something.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:18 am

/ wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
I think he shakes up the names in his hand and drops each one into a hat labeled with a role, so it's 1:1.

I use random.org, fwiw.

I wonder how random random.org can be when it picks 7 eight times in a row.


The list randomizer works just fine.

Note to self: random number generated games, 3 double voting lynch stoppers, and a couple of simultaneous serial-killing bodygaurds, what could go wrong?

Also, to stay on topic, I've been asked before a couple of times, and I trust well enough none of us would want to win that way. I don't mind, but I don't think I would want to know personally if I continued to follow the thread, it may be a bit frustrating, like watching a cheesy horror movie and rooting for the victims. :P


How is it different from modding a game and knowing the roles?
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby / on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:25 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:How is it different from modding a game and knowing the roles?

the mod can cheer for any side, or stay unbiased completely, the dead are already assigned "friends" or "enemies". Actually, now that I think about it, when I was asked, I'm pretty sure it was mostly requests from third party roles who had no faction left.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby strike wolf on Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:40 pm

I always root for the Sk. Even when I'm playing the game.
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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:25 pm

pancakemix wrote:
strike wolf wrote: I wonder how random random.org can be when it picks 7 eight times in a row.


The list randomizer works just fine.

That's what I do! ;)

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Re: Revealing Roles

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:43 pm

strike wolf wrote:I always root for the Sk. Even when I'm playing the game.


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