End Game: Town Wins! (Island Mafia)

[Iron Butterfly]

Usually a Serial killer stabs their victim.

Aagee was stabbed and shot.

Last night three people were targeted.

As far as bullet proof is concerned it could be a one shot deal or unlimited. My theory is that mafia has just as much to worry about as there is an SK and Vig. It is quite possible that a mafia person was actually targeted and perhaps it was the God Father as that could be a standard power along with being immune to investigation.

On second look it appears the bullet proof person was Town.

[zimmah]

It's not uncommon for GF to be bulletproof (usually 1 time).

And yes I know rish was acting weird all the time but his claim was believable and I think town should have not pushed for a lynch day 2, we hardly gained any info on day 2, which is really bad. I predicted that to happen yet he almost got speedlynched.

Anyway if the vig actually didn't get roleblocked than he might have hit the GF, now it's just a question of if its worth trading vig+roleblocker for one or two mafias.

The only question is which of the guns was mafia and which is vig.

If the first one is a vig than chances are he did hit the GF, and than the roleblocked guy must be mafia. I. That case we did catch two mafia. However if the first one is mafia we don't gain much info from those actions, as the roleblocker than blocked the vig and mafia hit some kind of bulletproof guy, whatever his role and alignment might be.

Considering the power of town, I wouldn't even be surprised if the SK would be immune to night kills.

It's also possible there is no vig, but I don't think so as it really seems like two guys holding guns walked around, which does not imply PGO or anything else.

It's quite easy to determine though which one is which, because if we have a vig, he would probably know if he was roleblocked, so if he wasn't roleblocked he did hit some bulletproof, and in that case it's not unlikely it's the GF, and probably it's someone who acted scummy already otherwise the vig wouldn't shoot him. If the vig was roleblocked the roleblocker and the vig should both keep silent.

So if we have a vig, he should probably speak up unless he was roleblocked, because that would reveal 2 mafia with a pretty high accuracy. But no matter what, we should first wait what the cop has to say before we take any kind if serious action.


Fast posted twice I guess

[Nebuchadnezer]

It's not uncommon for GF to be bulletproof (usually 1 time).

And yes I know rish was acting weird all the time but his claim was believable and I think town should have not pushed for a lynch day 2, we hardly gained any info on day 2, which is really bad. I predicted that to happen yet he almost got speedlynched.

Anyway if the vig actually didn't get roleblocked than he might have hit the GF, now it's just a question of if its worth trading vig+roleblocker for one or two mafias.

The only question is which of the guns was mafia and which is vig.

If the first one is a vig than chances are he did hit the GF, and than the roleblocked guy must be mafia. I. That case we did catch two mafia. However if the first one is mafia we don't gain much info from those actions, as the roleblocker than blocked the vig and mafia hit some kind of bulletproof guy, whatever his role and alignment might be.

Considering the power of town, I wouldn't even be surprised if the SK would be immune to night kills.

It's also possible there is no vig, but I don't think so as it really seems like two guys holding guns walked around, which does not imply PGO or anything else.

It's quite easy to determine though which one is which, because if we have a vig, he would probably know if he was roleblocked, so if he wasn't roleblocked he did hit some bulletproof, and in that case it's not unlikely it's the GF, and probably it's someone who acted scummy already otherwise the vig wouldn't shoot him. If the vig was roleblocked the roleblocker and the vig should both keep silent.

So if we have a vig, he should probably speak up unless he was roleblocked, because that would reveal 2 mafia with a pretty high accuracy. But no matter what, we should first wait what the cop has to say before we take any kind if serious action.


Fast posted twice I guess

Ummm...trying to confuse us much?

[thechuck51]

Zim, your thought process is contingent on the vig being notified he was blocked, and I'm not sure that he would be if he was.

[Iron Butterfly]

Zim, your thought process is contingent on the vig being notified he was blocked, and I'm not sure that he would be if he was.

True.

BUT we do not know if the Vig hit the Bullet proof or was blocked. The Vig does know who they targeted. From the night scene it appears that the BP was Town because he wanted to stop the blood shed.

What we also have is either a mafia or town role blocker. If the blocker is Town they know who they targeted but they do not know if they targeted mafia or town. However they would have a 50/50 chance of targeting mafia.

Now lets say mafia is the role blocker and they blocked the vig while targeting the BP. Mafia would now know who the Vig is and that the BP Town may be vulnerable to a night kill.

the point is that several players both mafia and Town have better insight into who is who, which is why it would be good to hear if other players may have info.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Is a mafia roleblocker going to really roleblock a random target rather than roleblock the cop? I would be more inclined to believe the roleblocker is town, and just happened to target vig or mafia. We don't know who, is the problem. However, since the scene mentions nothing of the cops actions we don't yet know if he was roleblocked, or if he got his results...I'm still waiting on the cop.

[safariguy5]

Alright well I will at least give us some information.

I am Briana, Town Roleblocker. I roleblocked TFO last night.

Honestly, for the vig to be shooting now is really sketchy play. We haven't found anyone guilty yet or anyone who we know faked a claim. Certainly, some people may be scummier looking than others, but shooting now is a terrible idea if you're vig. And anyways, 2 out of the 3 killers are anti town, so the odds are I did end up blocking an anti-town role.

vote TFO

[sheepofdumb]

Busy but I just wanted to say that zimmah is town.

[Iron Butterfly]

Vote TFO

[gregwolf121]

well first off, i would say tatht the BP is town, as they were at home and from the scene they weren't going anywhere, as to sk and mafia , i would say the sk uses the knife and the mafia guns, and if the third killer was a vig i would guess that they also use a gun, that means that there is a 50-50 chance of TFO being scum, either that or he is the vig. so ill wait for TFO's reply before deciding whether to vote him or not

[Iron Butterfly]

well first off, i would say tatht the BP is town, as they were at home and from the scene they weren't going anywhere, as to sk and mafia , i would say the sk uses the knife and the mafia guns, and if the third killer was a vig i would guess that they also use a gun, that means that there is a 50-50 chance of TFO being scum, either that or he is the vig. so ill wait for TFO's reply before deciding whether to vote him or not

Your post contributes nothing to what has not already been stated.

TFOs only recourse would be to claim he is the Vig, which means I need to claim first so there is no confusion.

I am Casey, Vigilante.

I know who was targeted last night and who lost their BP.

Now here is how I see it. Sheep has not been counterclaimed. He has cleared Zimmah and Doom. Safari is role blocker. I am the Vig. That leaves a remaining pool of 5 including the person I targeted. So if the balance of is 3 mafia and one SK they will be in that pool.

I targeted Jonty last night.

TFO is definitely mafia.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Vote TFO

[Nebuchadnezer]

well first off, i would say tatht the BP is town, as they were at home and from the scene they weren't going anywhere, as to sk and mafia , i would say the sk uses the knife and the mafia guns, and if the third killer was a vig i would guess that they also use a gun, that means that there is a 50-50 chance of TFO being scum, either that or he is the vig. so ill wait for TFO's reply before deciding whether to vote him or not

Your post contributes nothing to what has not already been stated.

TFOs only recourse would be to claim he is the Vig, which means I need to claim first so there is no confusion.

I am Casey, Vigilante.

I know who was targeted last night and who lost their BP.

Now here is how I see it. Sheep has not been counterclaimed. He has cleared Zimmah and Doom. Safari is role blocker. I am the Vig. That leaves a remaining pool of 5 including the person I targeted. So if the balance of is 3 mafia and one SK they will be in that pool.

I targeted Jonty last night.

TFO is definitely mafia.

So, why did you target Jonty? Seems a bit careless to be shooting...you must have had a big time tell from him...

[sheepofdumb]

Vote TFO

[zimmah]

Busy but I just wanted to say that zimmah is town.

Thanks, finaly some freedom of speech around here.

Also, vote TFO

Seems like this will become quite easy than. Too many roles have been revealed for mafia and even mafia+SK to be killed in 1 or 2 nights, and the chance of if finding the remaining scum in 2 days is fairly high. To the point were lynching/shooting a towns wont even really matter anymore.

[jonty125]

Firstly, I would like TFO to try and "talk the talk", because at the moment thing looks bleak for him but I aren't going to cast my vote without him getting his voice in.

Secondly, IB, WHY ME??

Thirdly, saf, would you mind telling us who you blocked N1?

[Nebuchadnezer]

Unvote

Yes, I would like to make sure we get all the info we can before completing our lynch.

[Iron Butterfly]

Of course you would Neb as you are either an SK or Mafia...or you are at least in that pool of 5 which includes jonty.

Now a couple of you have asked why did I target Jonty. My response is does it really matter? Is the issue to be what was my reasoning? My thought process was I had a general idea of who the pool of mafia/SK were. I suspected Neb, Chuck, Jonty as they were within the group that voted to lynch Rishaed. I had no doubt mafia was part of that group.

I went with the odds and took a guess. I picked jonty because in my eyes he appeared to be flying below the radar with his posts. he contributed just enough to appear in game, as his vote with Rishaed will attest, but he never really contributed anything substantial. At least in my eyes.

What we can not dispute.

SK was successful in their kill last night.

A kill was blocked.

A kill was stopped by a player being BP.

There is a Vigilante. I am claiming to be the Vig and I have said I targeted Jonty. Jonty has not disclaimed that with his post.

Mafia and the SK are within the group of players of, Jonty, neb, the chuck, the Forgivinone and Gregwolf.

No one has couter claimed Sheep and no one has counter claimed safari. No one has counterclaimed me and I have know who the target player was. The target player has not disputed my claim of targeting them.

[zimmah]

I don't even know what TFO could say to make us not vote him.

He's just dead, and the other scum will soon follow.

[thechuck51]

Of course you would Neb as you are either an SK or Mafia...or you are at least in that pool of 5 which includes jonty.

Now a couple of you have asked why did I target Jonty. My response is does it really matter? Is the issue to be what was my reasoning? My thought process was I had a general idea of who the pool of mafia/SK were. I suspected Neb, Chuck, Jonty as they were within the group that voted to lynch Rishaed. I had no doubt mafia was part of that group.

I went with the odds and took a guess. I picked jonty because in my eyes he appeared to be flying below the radar with his posts. he contributed just enough to appear in game, as his vote with Rishaed will attest, but he never really contributed anything substantial. At least in my eyes.

What we can not dispute.

SK was successful in their kill last night.

A kill was blocked.

A kill was stopped by a player being BP.

There is a Vigilante. I am claiming to be the Vig and I have said I targeted Jonty. Jonty has not disclaimed that with his post.

Mafia and the SK are within the group of players of, Jonty, neb, the chuck, the Forgivinone and Gregwolf.

No one has couter claimed Sheep and no one has counter claimed safari. No one has counterclaimed me and I have know who the target player was. The target player has not disputed my claim of targeting them.

Unfortunately things aren't so cut and dry because safari didn't block you, I did. I'm Andrew Town JOAT. I had/have a cop, block, and a vig. So saf's block of TFO didn't prevent a kill and Jonty isn't bulletproof.

hey yall im back, and dj if you had read my posts you would have known that i did tell yall that i would be gone till well yesterday, and from my reading im inclined to believe sheep, and ill agree that rishaed's play has been pretty bad but im not fully convinced that hes scum so i won't vote, and i would also agree that it is in towns best interest for sheep to investigate who he will without town telling him what to do, as that would tip off scum and they would be free to take evasive actions. that being said im pretty sure we have other protective roles out there and they will need to keep our cop safe, i for one will be watching

I don't know if you are a watcher but if you are and can shed some light on this case you need to come forward asap.

[Iron Butterfly]

Your stating that you blocked me. I stated I targeted Jonty.

Up until this point the only recourse would be for mafia/sk to counter claim. You are in essence saying you blocked me, which would prevent me from attacking Jonty. You are also calling Safari a liar as only one person was blocked.

Jonty does your role include a "Bullet Proof" and was it used"?

[thechuck51]

Your stating that you blocked me. I stated I targeted Jonty.

Up until this point the only recourse would be for mafia/sk to counter claim. You are in essence saying you blocked me, which would prevent me from attacking Jonty. You are also calling Safari a liar as only one person was blocked.

Jonty does your role include a "Bullet Proof" and was it used"?

No I'm not calling anybody a liar. There could have been multiple blocks but only the ones that prevent a kill make the scene. You said you tried to vig jonty, I blocked you so I think it's my block in the scene. Saf blocked TFO but if it wasn't related to a kill attempt it wouldn't have made the scene.

[jonty125]

Your stating that you blocked me. I stated I targeted Jonty.

Up until this point the only recourse would be for mafia/sk to counter claim. You are in essence saying you blocked me, which would prevent me from attacking Jonty. You are also calling Safari a liar as only one person was blocked.

Jonty does your role include a "Bullet Proof" and was it used"?

I wasn't told if it was used but I am Butler, Town One-Shot Bulletproof.

[zimmah]

Your stating that you blocked me. I stated I targeted Jonty.

Up until this point the only recourse would be for mafia/sk to counter claim. You are in essence saying you blocked me, which would prevent me from attacking Jonty. You are also calling Safari a liar as only one person was blocked.

Jonty does your role include a "Bullet Proof" and was it used"?

No I'm not calling anybody a liar. There could have been multiple blocks but only the ones that prevent a kill make the scene. You said you tried to vig jonty, I blocked you so I think it's my block in the scene. Saf blocked TFO but if it wasn't related to a kill attempt it wouldn't have made the scene.

That doesn't make sense, someone got shot and from the scene looks like he lost his ability to be bulletproof because he looks more cautious now. The other roleblock was very obvious in the scene.

Obviously no two guys were blocked, and it doesn't look like IB was blocked. Things wouldn't really add up if IB was blocked, so I am pretty sure you're lying.

[Iron Butterfly]

So the scene shows someone bullet proof was targeted.

I state that I targeted Jonty. Jonty it turns out is one shot bullet proof.

Coincidence? I think not.