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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:56 pm

zimmah wrote:I'm not bulletproof. Never was either.

I'm no GF either.

We're not sure if Greg fakeclaimed but it is easy to check by just shooting him once or twice.

If he dies he's a lair and thus deserves to die, and if he's telling the truth it shouldn't matter how often we shoot him.

The only thing is that if he's somehow a one shot bullet proof bad guy and we clear him after not dying from a single shot that we might overlook him late game. Therefore I suggest we make sure to shoot him a second time if it comes to the point where it starts to matter. It's unlikely any bad guy will be permanently bulletproof.


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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:51 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Neb, if jonty is godfather, why would greg fakeclaim to protect him?


Jonty could be either GF or SK.

Did we establish that Greg fakeclaimed? If so, then we should be voting for him, as that would be a for sure mafia member, right? However, I don't think we've established that Greg is faking. Did I miss something?


The scene directly contradicts there being a non-one-shot bulletproof.

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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby thechuck51 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:00 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Jonty could be either GF or SK.

Jonty could be GF but he's not SK. I blocked IB who was going to shoot jonty which is reflected in the second paragraph of the scene. The third part starts with "elsewhere..." so the SK isn't jonty.

Neb is SK
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:29 pm

thechuck51 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:Jonty could be either GF or SK.

Jonty could be GF but he's not SK. I blocked IB who was going to shoot jonty which is reflected in the second paragraph of the scene. The third part starts with "elsewhere..." so the SK isn't jonty.

Neb is SK


Yeah, that would make sense. It's either Jonty or Neb. As they are the only ones who haven't been investigated or have roles that can't be confirmed in some way. I want so see what neb claims. Unvote vote neb
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:20 pm

I was thinking neb for mafia and jonty for SK.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:15 pm

thechuck51 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:Jonty could be either GF or SK.

Jonty could be GF but he's not SK. I blocked IB who was going to shoot jonty which is reflected in the second paragraph of the scene. The third part starts with "elsewhere..." so the SK isn't jonty.

Neb is SK


You have not been able to prove any of your statements as everything was established after the fact. If the situation stood with Safari blocking TFO, me attempting to vig jonty and Sheep investigating Doom and Zimmah as Town My belief is that the mafia and SK are in the group of Jonty,Neb,Gregwolf,theChuck and TFO.

Now is it possible that Zimmah is the GF? He has just as much chance of being GF as anyone else who is investigated so we can never be 100%sure of any of the investigations.

To me the relationship between Chuck and Gregwolf is highly suspect as well as chuck pretty much laid the foundation for greg to claim what he did.

Now with all this said we need to lynch someone as there is way to much evidence to not to.

I would have no problem lynching Neb as i have also suspected he is the SK. His statement about who uses a knife and gun sealed it for me as well.

In my eyes we have the best chance of hitting mafia/SK with a lynch of him.

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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:41 pm

mod, could you please prod TFO, he really needs to reply sometime today.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:50 pm

Official Vote Count:

Zimmah: Doomyoshi (L-5)
TFO: Iron Butterfly, Zimmah (L-4)
Jonty: Gregwolf, Safariguy, Nebuchadnezer (L-3)
Gregwolf: Jonty (L-5)
Nebuchadnezer: Chuck, Sheepofdumb, ??? (L-3)


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is June 20th at around 5:00 PM Server time. Deadline extensions may be requested.

Iron Butterfly, you did not unvote TFO, so your change in vote was not accounted for.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:48 pm

new guy1 wrote:Official Vote Count:

Zimmah: Doomyoshi (L-5)
TFO: Iron Butterfly, Zimmah (L-4)
Jonty: Gregwolf, Safariguy, Nebuchadnezer (L-3)
Gregwolf: Jonty (L-5)
Nebuchadnezer: Chuck, Sheepofdumb, ??? (L-3)


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is June 20th at around 5:00 PM Server time. Deadline extensions may be requested.

Iron Butterfly, you did not unvote TFO, so your change in vote was not accounted for.


Cmon your splitting hairs.

Unvote TFO Vote Neb

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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:51 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Official Vote Count:

Zimmah: Doomyoshi (L-5)
TFO: Iron Butterfly, Zimmah (L-4)
Jonty: Gregwolf, Safariguy, Nebuchadnezer (L-3)
Gregwolf: Jonty (L-5)
Nebuchadnezer: Chuck, Sheepofdumb, ??? (L-3)


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is June 20th at around 5:00 PM Server time. Deadline extensions may be requested.

Iron Butterfly, you did not unvote TFO, so your change in vote was not accounted for.


Cmon your splitting hairs.

Unvote TFO Vote Neb

Is this easier to understand??


It will be counted on the next count :P. I didnt transfer it for rishaed earlier and Im not going to for someone else later in the game. Next time I wont acknowledge it in the post so that its an easy correction.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:53 pm

4. All ā€˜votes’ and ā€˜unvotes’ must be in color. If they are not, they will not be tallied. If you vote two or more times consecutively without an unvote in between them, then the last vote will be the one that gets tallied.


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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:22 pm

zimmah wrote:4. All ā€˜votes’ and ā€˜unvotes’ must be in color. If they are not, they will not be tallied. If you vote two or more times consecutively without an unvote in between them, then the last vote will be the one that gets tallied.


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:shock: It appears I need to read next time as well, because I dont remember reading that from before. Sorry for busting your balls IB, and Ill start counting them from now on :lol:
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:41 pm

Fair enough, I suppose between jonty and neb we have two decent targets. I will unvote vote neb to hear a claim.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:52 pm

I am Samael, Town Bodyguard.

N1 I protected DJ...just a hunch.
N2 I protected Doom, as he was investigated town.

I still think Jonty is the target to go for. Although, TFO has escaped all notice by laying low...how convenient.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby gregwolf121 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:58 pm

wait neb so your saying that we have a claimed cop and you go and protect an unknown power?, why?
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:25 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:wait neb so your saying that we have a claimed cop and you go and protect an unknown power?, why?


We have a doc. I'm hoping he has half a brain and will protect our cop.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby jonty125 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:11 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
gregwolf121 wrote:wait neb so your saying that we have a claimed cop and you go and protect an unknown power?, why?


We have a doc. I'm hoping he has half a brain and will protect our cop.


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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:00 am

gregwolf121 wrote:wait neb so your saying that we have a claimed cop and you go and protect an unknown power?, why?


It's actually not a bad idea, we have an unknown doc too.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:04 am

safariguy5 wrote:Fair enough, I suppose between jonty and neb we have two decent targets. I will unvote vote neb to hear a claim.


He was already at L-2 before your vote if I'm not mistaken, be careful man.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:47 am

zimmah wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Fair enough, I suppose between jonty and neb we have two decent targets. I will unvote vote neb to hear a claim.


He was already at L-2 before your vote if I'm not mistaken, be careful man.


Umm...yikes! There are 10 of us left. I would say 3 mafia and 1 SK...which means we are at 6 vs 4 right now. One mislynch and we lose...well 6 vs. 3 vs. 1...so worst case is a mislynch, and two town die tonight...that leaves us at 3 vs. 3 vs. 1.

Can someone unvote me, please? We have plenty of time to discuss our other choices. Like where is TFO?!?! I'm amazed as how he has skated under the radar...
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:06 am

i would unvote but i never voted you in the first place, i mean i would have voted but you were already too close to a lynch for my comfort.

let's take a look at the player list and current claims:

1. TheForgivenOne unknown, likely scum.
2. sheepofdumb town cop (seems solid)
3. Gregwolf town bulletproof (came up town by chuck, i have a feeling he might be GF though)
4. Rishaed----Asim, Back up Doctor (dead)
5. safariguy5 town roleblocker (seems solid)
6. IB town vig (seems solid)
7. Aage----Charan, Tracker (dead)
8. jonty125 town 1 shot BP, now basically VT
9. Nebuchadnezer town bodyguard
10. thechuck town JOAT
11. doooooooooom(yoshi) town unknown seems solid (confirmed by sheep)
12. Djfireside----Benson, Back up cop (dead)
13. zimmah town unknown seems solid (confirmed by sheep)

so basically everyone except TFO has claimed. But we still expect some 3 or 4 scum in there, obviously some claims are false. Some are pretty easy to confirm, others i have my doubt about. I really hope we find the SK fast, because it will buy us more time to find out who has been lying.

i still think, based on this list, that TFO is 100% scum, and i'm 95% certain that at least 2 people out of the following list are scum:

jonty
neb
chuck
greg

also, it's a bit odd that chuck claimed to have used his only investigation on night 1 on someone who at this point is one of the few with a questionable claim, someone who also claims to be bulletproof (permanently even) someone who might be the GF and therefore also might ACTUALLY come up as innocent, but still is scum.. it's almost like a very smart way to protect not only himself, but the GF as well.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby thechuck51 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:30 am

zimmah wrote:13. zimmah town unknown seems solid (confirmed by sheep)

"Seems solid"?
You are no more cleared than gregwolf or doom even. Despite "town" results any of you 3 could be a GF.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:44 am

there's still one role that is in the game for sure, and noone has claimed yet, considering all earlier claims, either me or doom is it, unless TFO claims it.

also, an innocent result from sheep seems more plausible than one from the claimed joat. at least in my eyes.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby thechuck51 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:54 am

zimmah wrote:there's still one role that is in the game for sure, and noone has claimed yet, considering all earlier claims, either me or doom is it, unless TFO claims it.

also, an innocent result from sheep seems more plausible than one from the claimed joat. at least in my eyes.

If there is a GF sheep would still get an innocent on him so his results are no more or less reliable than mine.

Also, there are two roles that must be in the game that haven't been claimed yet.
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Re: Day 3: Deputy Down

Postby zimmah on Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:00 am

two town roles i assume? noone would claim a non-town role.
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