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Re: CYOC Mafia [14/15] N1: Two Suns Set

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:08 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
pancakemix wrote:A dark silhouette crept its way towards a home, with intent to kill the inhabitant. A large man loomed nearby, but the interloper was willing to risk passing him. Suddenly, the dimensions twisted, and the intruder, sneaking past the armed guard, only tied up his victim instead.

"I guess he must have been at the end of his rope, huh?"

"I'm sure it took a good amount of rope to tie up his victim, so I'd assume so. Perhaps he should have gagged him though?"

"I'd very much like to gag you right now..."

"Believe me, Mr. Crow, I share your sentiment."

"Well, since that's settled, I'll find you a gag."


There were no deaths. It is Day 2. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. You have until 12:01 AM ET (GMT-04:00) on July 9th to reach a decision.


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Neb is Silent Bob...Silent Bob is the large man..he was involved in the attempted night kill somehow.

You guys ever see the size of Silent Bob/Kevin Smith?
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/kevin-smith-fa ... Ado1GGe5nM

The large man in the scene seems to me to be some sort of protective role, not the shadow. Doesn't implicate him as mafia.

However, the "dimensions warping" part seems to imply that Shaggy was involved in the scene. If what he's saying is true, then the killer should have killed on Night 2. But that delayed kill didn't happen. I think shaggy is not telling us about something, and therefore he's probably not town.

unvote vote shaggy

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:14 pm

Alright, I am through my charts and there isn't a ton of room left at anymore. Accordingly I have two things to say.
1. Shield is a big hole and needs to be replaced soonish.
2. Mr. Squirrel, what is you alignment? Are you town or third party? I I think you telling us this much be useful to get a handle on where things sit with only a few unknowns remaining.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:19 pm

spiesr wrote:2. Mr. Squirrel, what is you alignment? Are you town or third party? I I think you telling us this much be useful to get a handle on where things sit with only a few unknowns remaining.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby pancakemix on Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:12 pm

Suddenly, a voice bellowed out from the blue:

Day 3. Post 4.

Even though Pancake has my voice booming, I am by no means a giant. I have no idea who was involved in that night scene...nor do I care to WIFOM about it right now.

I'm glad someone finally figure me out. I am Silent Bob...thus the post restrictions. I thought it'd be fun, but it's turning out to be more of a chore...as I can't respond immediately to the posts. I've hinted at my power as well...and I will say Shaggy didn't delay anything last night.

Here's my problem. We are eventually just getting to a mass claim. Everyone is going to claim townie. However, we have to base what we know off of actions and votes. We don't need to panic at this point, because mafia hasn't succeeded in any kills. However, we can't exactly sit on our hands and wait for the baddies to show themselves. Yesterday, for example, we had too many voters sitting on the sidelines, letting the deadline roll in. Why? Because we didn't want to test a claim? Because we were too afraid to make a decision, even if it did turn out wrong? If that's the case, let's at least have the balls to submit a "no lynch" vote, and show where you stand.

The thing making me most nervous is if someone is out there recruiting. If we really want to keep Shaggy around, we could vote one of the third parties...I'm sure Safari or jak would be more than happy to jump on each other at this point...we are two days away from their end. Given the lack of kills, perhaps we need to see if what they are saying is true? They could easily be recruiter/recruitee looking for this "other" 3rd party kill switch. WIFOM, I know...but something doesn't add up with no night kills.

The other option is to just go for the mass claim, and see what the night actions lead to...that could always be interesting.

For now, I'll keep my vote on Shaggy. I agree that his delaying action could cause a lot of havoc...essentially a role block.

And I'm Silent Bob.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Silent Bob = Kevin Smith, Neb...

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby pancakemix on Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:14 am

Vote Count

Jak - 1 (Yoshi)
Shaggy - 3 (Neb, IB, saf)
IB - 1 (edoc)


With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is July 20 at 12:00 noon ET (GMT -04:00), which is about 24 hours.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [14/15] N1: Two Suns Set

Postby ShaggyDan on Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:54 am

safariguy wrote:However, the "dimensions warping" part seems to imply that Shaggy was involved in the scene. If what he's saying is true, then the killer should have killed on Night 2. But that delayed kill didn't happen. I think shaggy is not telling us about something, and therefore he's probably not town.

unvote vote shaggy


As verified by the tracker I visited yomiel night one. Which means no kill was there to be delayed.

I guess the only usefulness of my role is a sort of modified roleblock so it won't hurt town to lose me... The only way I can see my power being useful is to catch someone in a lie. Though in quick lynch scenarios like this I personally think it may be better to target a confirmed third party rather than just someone who 'might' be anti town. But thats my personal opinion of never trusting third party :p.

I don't have a counter case to put forward as I'm still not 100% but I am happy for my action to be directed by town / not used if the issue of convoluting the night scene is the reason for votes on me.

It's a little WIFOM, but if I was under pressure and had to claim if I was scum surely I could lie and come up with a different role that didn't lead people to vote me out of uselessness / confusion brought on by the role.


I know my activity has been bad as of late, work and sickness caught up with me which is a shame because I really enjoy the concept of this game.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:39 am

I feel like he MIGHT be townie but I'm not 100% sure. The only scenario I see him being scum is if he fell for Yomiel's thing and actually roleblocked him in fear that Yomiel would kill one of them, but he could also be a mafia delayer to wreck havoc on when each power was supposed to be put in play.

I've been proven wrong on both IB and Tails, so either there isn't much mafia in this game or my estimations were far off if this isn't anywhere close to a normal balanced set up.

Another option if town is up for it, I think we could go with a no lynch. We seem to be losing townies only when we lynch. I am in favor of this option since we lose less people and get more information by tomorrow (and also see if it's luck or if there really is someone with a night kill out there).

As such, Vote No Lynch This is only my thoughts, but it seems we're quite safe at night and that's where we should be getting information.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby ShaggyDan on Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:06 pm

The only problem with that jak is this killswitch that's meant to happen on Day 5. Now it may be beneficial for us (and I'm definitely curious about it) but my gut's telling me it's something bad for town. Though with more potential flavour cop results and day cop yams it is definitely a thought.

Vote No Lynch. My only alternative case is on the third party which I don't think is strong enough to follow.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:23 pm

ShaggyDan wrote:The only problem with that jak is this killswitch that's meant to happen on Day 5. Now it may be beneficial for us (and I'm definitely curious about it) but my gut's telling me it's something bad for town. Though with more potential flavour cop results and day cop yams it is definitely a thought.

Vote No Lynch. My only alternative case is on the third party which I don't think is strong enough to follow.


If you are town, why not support a third party lynch as opposed to none at all? This doesn't seem very helpful.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
ShaggyDan wrote:The only problem with that jak is this killswitch that's meant to happen on Day 5. Now it may be beneficial for us (and I'm definitely curious about it) but my gut's telling me it's something bad for town. Though with more potential flavour cop results and day cop yams it is definitely a thought.

Vote No Lynch. My only alternative case is on the third party which I don't think is strong enough to follow.


If you are town, why not support a third party lynch as opposed to none at all? This doesn't seem very helpful.

Vote shaggy


Well, I think us 3rd parties may hold the key to what this game is about, but until tonight I wont be able to tell you what this killswitch thing is all about. Until then I think we can take another night for information because it seems like the kills are being blocked or something. If this is the case that means we have no clue who's doing it. We can say so and so visited this or that person, yet there were no kills to prove it was a deadly visit. >.<
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby ShaggyDan on Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:25 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
ShaggyDan wrote:The only problem with that jak is this killswitch that's meant to happen on Day 5. Now it may be beneficial for us (and I'm definitely curious about it) but my gut's telling me it's something bad for town. Though with more potential flavour cop results and day cop yams it is definitely a thought.

Vote No Lynch. My only alternative case is on the third party which I don't think is strong enough to follow.


If you are town, why not support a third party lynch as opposed to none at all? This doesn't seem very helpful.

Vote shaggy


Because it seems to be the only option that wil get more votes than myself tbh.

My only reason for voting third party is the fact that their win condition is not the same as towns. Therefore anything they say about their actions, roles or motives can't be trusted. This killswitch doesn't seem like it will be useful for town... Complete speculation; what if the kills from mafia are building up and this killswitch triggers them all on the one night?

However the majority of people seem to want to work with these third parties so I figured it would do more harm than good to push a lynch against them.

I would rather vote for a no lynch over a speed lynch off a weak case... Especially when its me :P.

People were commenting yesterday we'd have to deal with third parties yesterday, why not use this speed lynch today?

Is the case against me inactivity plus a role that can do more harm than good? I've posted more lately and I am willing to not use my action or only use it on who people want.

... I wonder what would happen if I used it on myself... Probably not possible but makes for a laugh.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby ShaggyDan on Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:26 pm

Ebwop: I meant eventually not yesterday in the bolded part.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:58 pm

ShaggyDan wrote:... I wonder what would happen if I used it on myself... Probably not possible but makes for a laugh.


Well... it'd result in an infinite delays (it's delayed until the next night but the next night it keeps delaying its self, causing you to be useless lol)
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:07 pm

ShaggyDan wrote:This killswitch doesn't seem like it will be useful for town... Complete speculation; what if the kills from mafia are building up and this killswitch triggers them all on the one night?
You might possibly be on to something with the killswitch somehow preventing kills. It could explain why the night 1 target wasn't killed in the scene.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:13 pm

Unvote Vote shaggy. A NL is just another way to toss the game to the scum.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:15 pm

spiesr wrote:
ShaggyDan wrote:This killswitch doesn't seem like it will be useful for town... Complete speculation; what if the kills from mafia are building up and this killswitch triggers them all on the one night?
You might possibly be on to something with the killswitch somehow preventing kills. It could explain why the night 1 target wasn't killed in the scene.

Well, should we test this theory or wait for my results tomorrow?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:17 pm

jak111 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ShaggyDan wrote:This killswitch doesn't seem like it will be useful for town... Complete speculation; what if the kills from mafia are building up and this killswitch triggers them all on the one night?
You might possibly be on to something with the killswitch somehow preventing kills. It could explain why the night 1 target wasn't killed in the scene.

Well, should we test this theory or wait for my results tomorrow?


How could we possibly test that?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:18 pm

jak111 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ShaggyDan wrote:This killswitch doesn't seem like it will be useful for town... Complete speculation; what if the kills from mafia are building up and this killswitch triggers them all on the one night?
You might possibly be on to something with the killswitch somehow preventing kills. It could explain why the night 1 target wasn't killed in the scene.
Well, should we test this theory or wait for my results tomorrow?
Test it how? If you are suggesting that we lynch Safariguy, I am okay with that. I am might be wrong, but I am kinda getting town vibes from shaggy, and so I don't feel like lynching him would be ideal. Vote Safariguy
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:22 pm

edocsil wrote:Unvote Vote shaggy. A NL is just another way to toss the game to the scum.


Fastposted, (And fastposted again by you) (I hate fast posts made when you click write reply and they don't pop up before you send it...

Anyway, lynching wrecklessly is tossing the game to the scum. So far they have 0 kills.

To test, if we lynch killswitch then we can see if there's a kill tonight.

Fasposted by Spiesr, well he's 'one' of my targets he proclaims and if I must lynch them both by D5, I'll lend my aid. Shaggy doesn't seem like mafia atm. Unvote, Vote Safari

If there truly are two killswitches I guess I'll have to find the other tonight. But whatever this D5 stuff is, I don't like it. I may be 3rd party but why must I kill them by a certain day and not afterward?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:56 pm

jak111 wrote:To test, if we lynch killswitch then we can see if there's a kill tonight.
Do we want there to be a kill?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:58 pm

spiesr wrote:
jak111 wrote:To test, if we lynch killswitch then we can see if there's a kill tonight.
Do we want there to be a kill?


Do we want Shaggy's prediction to come true and more kills happen D5? Either way I can check him out tonight and see what it's all about, I just hope that 2 killswitches is a lie.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:35 pm

Jak, you are smoking the good crack if you thing we are going to hang saf on some half baked idea of yours. It makes little sense. There is no reason to trust shaggy, or to assume he delayed a kill it all. Where are you pulling this crap from? And that translates to kill the lynchers how? Your motives make absolutely zero sense, and make me question whether or not you intend to help the town at all.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:54 pm

edocsil wrote:Jak, you are smoking the good crack if you thing we are going to hang saf on some half baked idea of yours. It makes little sense. There is no reason to trust shaggy, or to assume he delayed a kill it all. Where are you pulling this crap from? And that translates to kill the lynchers how? Your motives make absolutely zero sense, and make me question whether or not you intend to help the town at all.


Funny, because I question your logic and common sense. It's like because you're proven townie your brain has taken a vacation. smh. My motives make 0 sense?
1.) I gotta kill him, so that's MY motive.
2.) It seems to be agreeable by two others to go for him.
3.) With his posts lately he seems to not care who he lynches, nor is he trying to contribute to finding scum/other killswitch. (if there even is another).
4.) Town is moving no where at the moment, fussing with each other like a bunch of girls. We need night actions to be able to clarify more things.

Just because you're cleared does not mean you put your brain on vacation. Also if you pay attention I have two options I'm willing to lend my vote to. Either voting my known target, or voting a no lynch so I can clarify what it is he is and we can get more night actions tonight.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:29 pm

Bah. You know as well as I that you are never going to be able to fastlynch saf in 24 hours. We should hang shaggy as he is throwing his vote even worse than Saf. 4 is particularly sexist, and not particularly accurate to boot. I'll just kill you if you indent to distract the town with crap like this during the day.

No lynch or help the survivor win. I think not. You work with the town or the town kills you. End of the story.
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