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BuJaber wrote:]Don't worry about it mets. It happens every game. Mostly it's just laziness I reckon. No out of the box thinking no change of play style just wait for someone to do "so and so" put votes on them wait for their claim. Even in a game with clearly different dynamic they want to follow the same old formula.
Role fishing .. as strike said I know what it is and this isn't. I will say that I might be influenced as a player by the one night ultimate werewolf games. They tend to have more info shared by town. Strike in particular should know how effective that can be. Obviously regular mafia requires more subtlety .. I wasn't advocating for claims around the table. I asked very specific questions about night 1 that if answered wouldn't even neceasarily be alignment indicative. Somebody found a candle? That can mean anything. As for the aura we don't even know what it is yet for sure. How do we know it would be alignment indicative. There's also the difference between acting and being acted on. If there were people with no night action or irrelevant night actions that got some info I was urging them to share. It often means somebody is trying to communicate with another townie during the night
I was opening a discussion that wasn't about pika (coz at this point you either think he's town or not not sure how much we can discuss), wasn't about the crier/spirit, wasn't about the PR. And 3 people are trying to shut ne down. How is THAT helpful? You think anybody will talk after my lynch? They'll continue to lurk or discuss the random distractions.. it will further nurture the shy playstyle of the CC meta.
And aage we both know that mitch tends to get himself killed. I made a calculated risk to mention his name because he needs to be quiet. Also I dare any scum to try to NK mitch. Go ahead try it.
Mandy you have anything to say? I bet you they're counting on you to jump on the bandwagon it would earn them a lot of credibility. If you agree with them then I'll just claim and y'all can talk about me after my death. Pika aage mandy and strike on one lynch.. that is a speed lynch formula if there ever was one.
Now I realize why I was defending dakky... thought I was being objective turns out I just relate to him.
strike wolf wrote:how Aage s post reads: You're scummy and this is why you're scummy. I'm voting for you.
How Sam's post reads: Hey buddy. Please don't role fish. K. Thx. Sincerely, your bestest scum buddy.
Why even ask if the person who may have shielded town should step forward? What purpose does it serve for said person to step forward? It's either a one shot ability and mafia overanalyzes it wondering if they have to pull out some special ability or save any potential extra kills for later nights. Or it does have another use in which case, that person should NEVER claim unless forced. Only thing getting that person to claim accomplishes is allowing mafia to better plan around it.
I do believe that Buj knows what role fishing is and I do believe he would out right ask for someone to claim. I don't put it past scum Buj to try to guise it as getting consensus from town that said person should claim.
As for the candle, I agree with Aage on this one. If anyone on town got anything worthwhile out of it, they should have already spoken up.
BuJaber wrote:I was opening a discussion that wasn't about pika (coz at this point you either think he's town or not not sure how much we can discuss), wasn't about the crier/spirit, wasn't about the PR. And 3 people are trying to shut ne down. How is THAT helpful? You think anybody will talk after my lynch? They'll continue to lurk or discuss the random distractions.. it will further nurture the shy playstyle of the CC meta.
Also I dare any scum to try to NK mitch. Go ahead try it.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
aage wrote:This is why I refrained from mentioning any details as well, I appreciate your kindred spirit. Although honestly, you guys aren't missing much. All I know is the item's name, nothing else. Samlen, what are your thoughts on the fact that nobody 'claimed' to have taken and/or used the item yet?
strike wolf wrote:
how Aage s post reads: You're scummy and this is why you're scummy. I'm voting for you.
How Sam's post reads: Hey buddy. Please don't role fish. K. Thx. Sincerely, your bestest scum buddy.
BuJaber wrote:
it will further nurture the shy playstyle of the CC meta.
And aage we both know that mitch tends to get himself killed. I made a calculated risk to mention his name because he needs to be quiet. Also I dare any scum to try to NK mitch. Go ahead try it.
DirtyDishSoap wrote: Like how I think people are lurking and we should pay attention to that (Like how Benga is more active after prodding). It's not normal for a player like Benga to disappear for a lengthy period, considering he's one of our most active users in Mafia. Basically, I'm saying BuJaber, while he has his stance with Mitch, and the defense of Pika (and mine in turn with Mandy), I think he's misplaced with going after Mitch rather than anyone else. Does that make sense? There's a method to my madness folks.
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Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Skittles! wrote:IMO anyone trying to role fish based on the scene on day TWO is incredibly silly. Not enough to vote for, but man let people get more info before they reveal themselves. Mafia lasts ages, if you have a role that collects info, the best way to use your role is to create a network of info before revealing it to anyone and playing the game in a way where you don't seem like a huge threat to scum so they don't off you. Basic 101 of mafia.
This times 100x.Skittles! wrote:In saying that, I'm suss of Bujaber and also those who jumped on him. Especially as it was so quick and I would say at least 1 of them are scum, and at least 1 person defending bujaber is scum.
I'll relent the whole misplaced argument and say that his wishy washy voting, and switching between people constantly (Of course after I tried defending the Mitch thing...And he switches...Again), is really suspect from me.BuJaber wrote:Anyway I'll Vote mitch for my super awesome meta read. He always votes in the same way as scum. (With an underlying tone of anger and intimidation)
Posted on the 1st.BuJaber wrote:Some people clearly don't want to talk. They either don't care, have reason to hide, or they benefit from the lack of direction among us.
I say we zero in on the inactives. We either get a lynch or more activity up in here. Worked with benga.
Going down the list: strike's last post was 5 days ago.
Unvote vote strike wolf.
Posted on the 4th. Even then, it didn't make much sense in my book to go after Strike.BuJaber wrote:My bad. Missed the post on page 20. Unvote. Vote Samlen. (Last post 6 days ago).
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
benga wrote:BuJaber wrote:
it will further nurture the shy playstyle of the CC meta.
And aage we both know that mitch tends to get himself killed. I made a calculated risk to mention his name because he needs to be quiet. Also I dare any scum to try to NK mitch. Go ahead try it.
BuJaber wrote:benga wrote:BuJaber wrote:
it will further nurture the shy playstyle of the CC meta.
And aage we both know that mitch tends to get himself killed. I made a calculated risk to mention his name because he needs to be quiet. Also I dare any scum to try to NK mitch. Go ahead try it.
so you don't like to play shy but urge dakky to keep quiet?
First of all it's mitch, not dakky. Easy mistake to make 2nd Not playing shy has nothing to do with mitch shutting up. You can hide sensitive info about your role/others' roles and still not be playing shyly. I haven't revealed any info about anyone yet and I am not being shy with my apparoach to scum hunting for example. Playing shy is basically the attitude that nobody should reveal anything unless they are at L-2, and that nobody should come up with crazy ideas that town can discuss. Also and this is the biggest one it is always labelled scummy when anyone claims anything before being prompted but they are still chastising me for prompting someone to reveal something about the candle. Can't have it both ways. These atttitudes are wrong but town wins some of these game so people continue to play with the same strategy.
If you must know the candle I don't care about much; there may or may not be something there. I am interested in the aura. And since none of you has said anything about either then I assume that none of the posters so far are relevant to my line of questioning. Or you feel that you can't. Which is fine even without any responses these last few posts are by far the most productive thing we've done since the game started.
Skittles! wrote:IMO anyone trying to role fish based on the scene on day TWO is incredibly silly. Not enough to vote for, but man let people get more info before they reveal themselves. Mafia lasts ages, if you have a role that collects info, the best way to use your role is to create a network of info before revealing it to anyone and playing the game in a way where you don't seem like a huge threat to scum so they don't off you. Basic 101 of mafia.
In saying that, I'm suss of Bujaber and also those who jumped on him. Especially as it was so quick and I would say at least 1 of them are scum, and at least 1 person defending bujaber is scum.
I'm not being the most active of players rn but I really don't have much to add. Just absorbing the info and inputting where I think I need to. If you've played with me before you know this is how I play.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Skittles! wrote:IMO anyone trying to role fish based on the scene on day TWO is incredibly silly. Not enough to vote for, but man let people get more info before they reveal themselves. Mafia lasts ages, if you have a role that collects info, the best way to use your role is to create a network of info before revealing it to anyone and playing the game in a way where you don't seem like a huge threat to scum so they don't off you. Basic 101 of mafia.
This times 100x.Skittles! wrote:In saying that, I'm suss of Bujaber and also those who jumped on him. Especially as it was so quick and I would say at least 1 of them are scum, and at least 1 person defending bujaber is scum.
I'll relent the whole misplaced argument and say that his wishy washy voting, and switching between people constantly (Of course after I tried defending the Mitch thing...And he switches...Again), is really suspect from me.BuJaber wrote:Anyway I'll Vote mitch for my super awesome meta read. He always votes in the same way as scum. (With an underlying tone of anger and intimidation)
Posted on the 1st.BuJaber wrote:Some people clearly don't want to talk. They either don't care, have reason to hide, or they benefit from the lack of direction among us.
I say we zero in on the inactives. We either get a lynch or more activity up in here. Worked with benga.
Going down the list: strike's last post was 5 days ago.
Unvote vote strike wolf.
Posted on the 4th. Even then, it didn't make much sense in my book to go after Strike.BuJaber wrote:My bad. Missed the post on page 20. Unvote. Vote Samlen. (Last post 6 days ago).
Switched vote on the 5th.
I think this is the biggest indicator we were given lately, so I'll side with Mandy on this and go to the Dark Side for cookies.
Unvote Vote BuJaber
strike wolf wrote:I don't care that much about the candle and I don't think the others do either. It was you indirectly fishing around about the aura that mostly got my attention
The candle adds to the case but is quite weak in comparison.
Metsfanmax wrote:I originally thought that BuJ was possibly looking for a specific thing here because he might have had information related to the candle. But that seems like it's probably not the case after his latest post.
Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:I originally thought that BuJ was possibly looking for a specific thing here because he might have had information related to the candle. But that seems like it's probably not the case after his latest post.
Well, I was half right.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
Metsfanmax wrote:I don't follow. What is it about these vote switches that is leading you to vote for BuJ?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
BuJaber wrote:Okay this ended up being a colossal fail and I doubt any scum would fall for it now so I might as well confess that I was behind the aura. It's a one-time protective shield that blocks everything.
strike wolf wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:I originally thought that BuJ was possibly looking for a specific thing here because he might have had information related to the candle. But that seems like it's probably not the case after his latest post.
Well, I was half right.
you were half right that he was looking for something. He was looking for town's aura wielder to slip and reveal himself. I'll save our real protector from having to counter claim. I know 100% that Buj is lying (ill explain if i need to) and if I'm wrong you can kill me tonight or lynch me tomorrow. Whichever comes first.
strike wolf wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:I originally thought that BuJ was possibly looking for a specific thing here because he might have had information related to the candle. But that seems like it's probably not the case after his latest post.
Well, I was half right.
you were half right that he was looking for something. He was looking for town's aura wielder to slip and reveal himself. I'll save our real protector from having to counter claim. I know 100% that Buj is lying (ill explain if i need to) and if I'm wrong you can kill me tonight or lynch me tomorrow. Whichever comes first.
Metsfanmax wrote:strike wolf wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:I originally thought that BuJ was possibly looking for a specific thing here because he might have had information related to the candle. But that seems like it's probably not the case after his latest post.
Well, I was half right.
you were half right that he was looking for something. He was looking for town's aura wielder to slip and reveal himself. I'll save our real protector from having to counter claim. I know 100% that Buj is lying (ill explain if i need to) and if I'm wrong you can kill me tonight or lynch me tomorrow. Whichever comes first.
I think you do either need to explain or the real aura wielder needs to counter claim. I can't take your word alone on this.
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