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Re: Game Statistics

Postby RjBeals on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:36 pm

i really don't like horizontal scrolling. But at least it's an update.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby nagerous on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:44 pm

Bruceswar wrote:Give the people want they want! Let us be able to disable it and use CC like we used to!
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby sully800 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:50 pm

Everyone who is complaining or unhappy - read the thread, because I think every "problem" has been addressed.

You can fix your clock by updating BOB. You can hide the stats by updating BOB. If you don't use BOB and you don't care about the stats you don't need to look at them (this works now that the cards are in the left most column). Seems like this should no longer be adversely affecting anyone who doesn't want it, and it will be helpful to many people. So kudos!
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby laddida on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:51 pm

guess there was already a bob update that fixes this problem i just had bob turned off so it couldnt tell me there was an update :-P stupid me.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby kroovi on Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:06 pm

this feature only narrows the gap between strategic players who calculate their every move, to those who are sloppy, and do not, but have someone to do it for them...
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:13 pm

It would be nice if under Due you also got territory bonus included like if you held the whole of Africa on World 2.1 under Due the 18 bonus troops appear. but without it still a great update! :mrgreen:
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby soccerhooligan89 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:38 pm

I love the new addition and where it's positioned. Keep it up with the brilliant innovations guys.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby hrake on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:04 pm

Love it can't play with out it
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Optimus Prime on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:24 pm

kroovi wrote:this feature only narrows the gap between strategic players who calculate their every move, to those who are sloppy, and do not, but have someone to do it for them...

Counting does not give you a strategic advantage. What you do with the number does. If you truly believe it gives you a strategic advantage, be thankful you can save time counting now. ;)
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby ender516 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:25 pm

jonty125 wrote:It would be nice if under Due you also got territory bonus included like if you held the whole of Africa on World 2.1 under Due the 18 bonus troops appear. but without it still a great update! :mrgreen:

Looking at a Classic Shapes game I have going, Game 5982067, the number under Due does include all the troops you will get when your turn starts. BOB breaks it out into amounts for R (regions or territories) , Z (zones or continents) and RB (I forget what that means), while the site just totals them up.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby AzureX on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:34 pm

PLEASE TURN THE NEW STAT BAR OFF! I really dislike it and it takes the fun out of the game. People need to take the time to figure what is going on in a game. Not get spoon fed the stats. PLEASE REMOVE.

I don't mean to seem bitter, but, if it doesn't get removed.... I doubt I will renew my subscription. I play this game because of the strategy, I really enjoy that aspect of this game. A large part of that is now gone.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Kiron on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:43 pm

I love this feature! Thanks! FYI, high ranking players do like this too (saves me so much time from analyzing and counting!) and not every players has access to BOB.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:48 pm

AzureX wrote:PLEASE TURN THE NEW STAT BAR OFF! I really dislike it and it takes the fun out of the game. People need to take the time to figure what is going on in a game. Not get spoon fed the stats. PLEASE REMOVE.

I don't mean to seem bitter, but, if it doesn't get removed.... I doubt I will renew my subscription. I play this game because of the strategy, I really enjoy that aspect of this game. A large part of that is now gone.


Read 2 posts back. Counting != strategy.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby AzureX on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:51 pm

kroovi wrote:this feature only narrows the gap between strategic players who calculate their every move, to those who are sloppy, and do not, but have someone to do it for them...


I agree. This is why that bar should not be available to anyone. It takes the strategy "OUT" of this game. :cry:
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby kgbpizza on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:51 pm

I like it except for the fact that everyone can see total number of territories in fog games.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby yeti_c on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:59 pm

Good changes Lack...

Not sure what the HooHaa is all about...

If you really don't like it - you could make a GM script that hides the data for you? Would be the matter of 5 minutes I expect.

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Re: Game Statistics

Postby SamSosa99 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:02 pm

Good update but should we really be able to see how many terrs and troops an opponent has in a fog game
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby AzureX on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:05 pm

I think we really need to have a stat bar that tells us the odds of beating an adjacent territory. That sounds cool, lets add this feature as well. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby musteriuz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:09 pm

AzureX wrote:I think we really need to have a stat bar that tells us the odds of beating an adjacent territory. That sounds cool, lets add this feature as well. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes indeed. To really help all these "strategists" save some more time, maybe we can see what our next 5 dice rolls (attack & defense) will be so that we can decide whether to attack or just deploy.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Lubawski on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:15 pm

I'm not a big fan of this. It has screwed up my watched games feature, which I loved. All of this is already available via BOB, and BOB is more accurate as well. It screws up the screen depending on which computer I'm on as well. I'd like to see it removed, but I'd settle for it being optional.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:17 pm

SamSosa99 wrote:Good update but should we really be able to see how many terrs and troops an opponent has in a fog game


You've always been able to count territories. It still doesn't show troops.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby chemefreak on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:22 pm

Ugh...why?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby flexmaster33 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:22 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
kroovi wrote:this feature only narrows the gap between strategic players who calculate their every move, to those who are sloppy, and do not, but have someone to do it for them...

Counting does not give you a strategic advantage. What you do with the number does. If you truly believe it gives you a strategic advantage, be thankful you can save time counting now. ;)



Well said...plus, most strategy is involved in where you attack and how aggressively you make your moves. Much more to strategy than counting up armies (although that is a small part).
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby flexmaster33 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:25 pm

SamSosa99 wrote:Good update but should we really be able to see how many terrs and troops an opponent has in a fog game



You don't see the # of troops, but yes, it would be nice if regions were blocked out, too.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby legionbuck on Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:32 pm

Pretty slick! Maybe be able to shrink it down with a click to minimalize the space needed on the screen ? Otherwise , nice job !
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