did the west truly win the Cold War?

[riskllama]

according to this guy, we did not :



just a clip from the full interview, because most of you are idiots w/the attention span of a goldfish, but his timeline of events seems to be matching up fairly well, imo & would certainly explain a lot of the crazy, fucked up things going on in western culture atm, no? food for thought...

[riskllama]

[DirtyDishSoap]

I was under the assumption that it ended being a lose/lose with alot of dick swinging.

[bigtoughralf]

How can you win or lose something that has no stated objectives or end goals?

[riskllama]

How can you win or lose something that has no stated objectives or end goals?

you are idiot

[saxitoxin]

Republican NAACP elder Bert Cumby warned everyone.

In 1956 he testified to a United States Senate committee regarding an international communist conspiracy he alleged was underway, the objective of which was the admission of the People's Republic of China to the United Nations and the establishment of diplomatic relations between the United States and China. According to Cumby, this was to be partially accomplished through the brainwashing of American POWs prior to their repatriation to the United States; they would, in turn, create a nucleus of domestic support for China-friendly policies within the U.S.

...

In 1971 the PRC took the ROC's seat in the United Nations and, in 1978, the United States severed diplomatic relations with the ROC, thereafter exchanging ambassadors with the PRC.

Cumby debriefed Claude Batchelor ...

After a two-hour firefight, the Americans surrendered. According to Batchelor's later testimony, he and his compatriots thought the Chinese would execute them but were surprised when a Chinese officer instead greeted each American prisoner by shaking hands, before ordering the group moved to a nearby house where they were fed and given cigarettes.

...

Batchelor's court martial was convened on August 30, 1954, at Fort Sam Houston in Texas. Joel Westbrook, a civilian attorney from San Antonio and officer in the Texas National Guard, represented Batchelor.

Westbrook's defense of Batchelor was based on acknowledgment of the soldier's collaboration but claim that it was involuntary and the result of brainwashing. Psychiatrist Leon Freedman testified for the defense, stating that Batchelor suffered from "induced political psychosis" and had been led to believe that he was "a potential savior of humanity".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Batchelor

[riskllama]

free smokes would definitely get my support...

[bigtoughralf]

How can you win or lose something that has no stated objectives or end goals?

you are idiot

Even jp4 can come up with better ad hominem than that, dude.

[riskllama]

hey, I was just proving what I stated previously in the OP...*shrugs*. you & i both know that I can certainly come up w/better ad hominems than jp, ralphie...

[riskllama]

ooc, exactly how many smokes are we talking here, saxi? I mean, I know I wouldn't go red for a pack or a carton. but for like say, a semi trailer? maybe...

[bigtoughralf]

hey, I was just proving what I stated previously in the OP...*shrugs*. you & i both know that I can certainly come up w/better ad hominems than jp, ralphie...

If you are not an idiot you'll presumably be able to easily answer my original question then.

[riskllama]

hey, I was just proving what I stated previously in the OP...*shrugs*. you & i both know that I can certainly come up w/better ad hominems than jp, ralphie...

If you are not an idiot you'll presumably be able to easily answer my original question then.

*yawns*
keep this up & you're gonna shoot your eye out...

[bigtoughralf]

>posts video asking people to discuss it
>conversation goes in direction he doesn't like so refuses to discuss it further

Average CC thread

[riskllama]

[bigtoughralf]

[riskllama]

>posts video asking people to discuss it
>conversation goes in direction he doesn't like so refuses to discuss it further

Average CC thread

nah. never asked anybody to discuss anything, ralph & tbh, I'm really not interested in discussing it specifically with you because, well...troll. sorry, bruh - I just don't have time for your shit...*shrugs*