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The breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
Dukasaur wrote:Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
It's worth noting that the Gaza Health Ministry, like everything else in Gaza, is controlled by Hamas and used for propaganda purposes.
But even if we accept the 40% figure, that's still fairly pretty damn good percentage for a shadowy organization that conceals itself amongst civilians.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:It's Monday and Biden has now been besieged inside the White House for seven years.
Dukasaur wrote:Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
It's worth noting that the Gaza Health Ministry, like everything else in Gaza, is controlled by Hamas and used for propaganda purposes.
But even if we accept the 40% figure, that's still fairly pretty damn good percentage for a shadowy organization that conceals itself amongst civilians.
bigtoughralf wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
It's worth noting that the Gaza Health Ministry, like everything else in Gaza, is controlled by Hamas and used for propaganda purposes.
In previous conflicts in Gaza the Gaza Health Ministry's casualty figures have always come out pretty much exactly the same as independent estimates produced by organisations like the UN. They're trustworthy, that's why pretty much every media outlet except those controlled by the Israeli government is quoting them.But even if we accept the 40% figure, that's still fairly pretty damn good percentage for a shadowy organization that conceals itself amongst civilians.
No idea what you think is so great about that figure.
jusplay4fun wrote:bigtoughralf wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
It's worth noting that the Gaza Health Ministry, like everything else in Gaza, is controlled by Hamas and used for propaganda purposes.
In previous conflicts in Gaza the Gaza Health Ministry's casualty figures have always come out pretty much exactly the same as independent estimates produced by organisations like the UN. They're trustworthy, that's why pretty much every media outlet except those controlled by the Israeli government is quoting them.But even if we accept the 40% figure, that's still fairly pretty damn good percentage for a shadowy organization that conceals itself amongst civilians.
No idea what you think is so great about that figure.
NO Idea? This means IDF is killing Hamas fighters, who, as has been repeatedly said by me and some others here, HIDE among civilians. Since these "fighters" hide among civilians, there have been, and will continue to be, civilian casualties in this war.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:bigtoughralf wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Lonous wrote:Well the official U.N. numbers areThe breakdown of the figures in the UN OCHA report only includes casualties whose identities have been confirmed, while the overall figure is the number of reported deaths.[17] Over 24,000 of the dead have been fully identified by the Gaza Health Ministry;[18] of these, 52% are women and minors, 40% are men, and 8% are elderly of both sexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... 3Hamas_war
So of the 24,000 dead that have been fully identified, 40% of them were male between the age of 18-65.
It's worth noting that the Gaza Health Ministry, like everything else in Gaza, is controlled by Hamas and used for propaganda purposes.
In previous conflicts in Gaza the Gaza Health Ministry's casualty figures have always come out pretty much exactly the same as independent estimates produced by organisations like the UN. They're trustworthy, that's why pretty much every media outlet except those controlled by the Israeli government is quoting them.But even if we accept the 40% figure, that's still fairly pretty damn good percentage for a shadowy organization that conceals itself amongst civilians.
No idea what you think is so great about that figure.
NO Idea? This means IDF is killing Hamas fighters, who, as has been repeatedly said by me and some others here, HIDE among civilians. Since these "fighters" hide among civilians, there have been, and will continue to be, civilian casualties in this war.
I have never heard of a situation where the police know two bank robbers are hiding somewhere in a neighborhood so they carpet bomb the entire neighborhood and kill 3,000 people in the process. Then say, "Not our fault! The bank robbers were hiding among civilians! We're the heroes!"
And that's the standard - policing, not warfighting. You can't fight a war against yourself and, under international law, there is no right to self-defense against an internal threat.
Israel claims sovereignty over Gaza. So the Gazan population is 100% Israel's responsibility as much as Israeli citizens. Israel is, therefore, choosing to slaughter hundreds of innocent people for whom it's legally responsible for the sake of rescuing 4 people for whom it's also legally responsible. No sane person would do that unless they recognized some qualitative difference between the group of 4, versus the group of 200. By its actions, Israel has left no ambiguity that it considers members of the Jewish religion racially superior to non-members by a factor of 50-1.
When Reinhard Heydrich was assassinated by the Czech resistance, the Nazis ordered the execution of 100 Bohemians as punishment in accordance with Hitler's decree that 100 Czech lives were equal to one German life.
So, the Zionists are - I guess - only half as bad as the Nazis. But still pretty bad.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Snowden:
This is a tale of the Scorpion and the Frog. Biden is the Frog.
https://x.com/Snowden/status/1803137446294724967
“The State of Israel will pay a price on the front and home fronts, but with a strong and united nation, and the full power of the [Israeli military], we will restore security to the residents of the north.” [Israel FM Katz]
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/1 ... ll-out-war
Religious Services Minister Michael Malkieli was interviewed on Wednesday evening by the Channel 14 program 'The Patriots,' where he told them they are preparing for "major scenarios" in the North.
"The Religious Services Ministry entrusted with burials is preparing itself for major scenarios in the North. We are having meetings for big things in the North," Malkieli told Channel 14.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-806974
“We train day and night, and repeat marching chants against the Zionist enemy, and we hear dedicated newsletters bragging about how ready the military is, but when this enemy is killing thousands of our brothers, we sit idle,” Omar told MEE.
Middle East Eye has met five Egyptian soldiers, including Omar, most of whom have demonstrated their dissatisfaction with the way the government is dealing with the war in Gaza and with the killing of their comrades on the border with Israel.
The young soldier considers himself and his colleagues "elite fighters" trained to withstand harsh conditions and fight sophisticated targets. His unit, he added, has been reinforced by more elite and well-trained units from the counterterrorism division in North and Central Sinai since October.
Omar lost two comrades in clashes with Israeli soldiers earlier this month, but their deaths have had little recognition by the Egyptian army, including its senior leadership and President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, he said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyp ... ael-stance
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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