jimboston wrote:betiko wrote:jimboston wrote:betiko wrote:Dukasaur wrote:So, it's true what they say, that your polls close at 7, so working people don't have time to get home after work, feed the kids, and still make it to the polls?
Here, we generally close the polls at 9:30. I guess respect for working people is a luxury I shouldn't take for granted.
we vote only on sundays and polls close at 8. and at 8:01 we know who our president is and he starts straight away, not 2 month later.
Also, the vote of each of our citizens counts the same.
I think they should have in-person polls for a week... and mail-in only if requested and only if you state a valid reason.
There SHOULD be some barriers to voting... like caring.
The idea that we have a lame-duck president for months after the election... that’s a remnant of a time when communication took longer.
It’d be nice if we could put bipartisanism aside and make this a faster transition.
People like to complain about the Electoral College, but these are people who generally don’t understand our country and our founding.
There’s an argument to be made that we should get rid of it. It’s not valid however to state that an election is ‘stolen’ or ‘unfair’ or anything else like that because some losing candidate “won the popular vote”. The “popular vote” is meaningless in our system and crying about it after the fact is the same as a 9yo crying about losing because the “rules were unfair”. If there was a different system candidates would run campaigns differently, and people would vote differently, and so you can’t assume the “winner” of the “popular vote” would “win” if the system was changed prior to the fact.
so can you explain howfair it is that depending on your state your vote has more or less weight? the electoral college system is not accurate in terms of population per state. Also... candidates end up campaigning actually only for swinging states and take some states for granted.
If all votes counted the same... you would campaign for sociodemographics... not for locations
It’s “fair” because those are the rules and everyone knows it.
It’s “fair” because we are a Constitutional Republic, and a collection of States... and not a Monolithic Democracy.
The voting power of people as represented in the Senate gives more power to people from low-population State also, why don’t people complain about that system?
I’m not saying it’s the best system.
I’m not saying I’m opposed to changing it, in a forward looking fashion.
Basically all I am saying is that it annoys me when people cry about the results and “fairness” after the fact.
Yes... if the vote was tallied in a different manner people would run in a different manner.
This may or may not be good. I’m open to ideas to change it IN THE FUTURE.
You could have many different methods of tallying the vote... one person one vote, one family one vote, ranked voting, run-off elections, voting by all residents not just citizens, voting based on tax burden, etc.
your whole system is based on things that made sense like 250 years ago. you guys have such a young country that you think your constitution shouldn't ever be touched or something... and avoid modernity. A lot of things have changed since the horse and carriage. Like we got steam trains and all that.