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If Biden is inaugurated in January 2021, by what date will a Republican be back in the White House?

January 2022
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January 2023
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January 2024
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January 2025
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm

jimboston wrote:
betiko wrote:
jimboston wrote:
betiko wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:So, it's true what they say, that your polls close at 7, so working people don't have time to get home after work, feed the kids, and still make it to the polls?

Here, we generally close the polls at 9:30. I guess respect for working people is a luxury I shouldn't take for granted.


we vote only on sundays and polls close at 8. and at 8:01 we know who our president is and he starts straight away, not 2 month later.
Also, the vote of each of our citizens counts the same.


I think they should have in-person polls for a week... and mail-in only if requested and only if you state a valid reason.
There SHOULD be some barriers to voting... like caring.

The idea that we have a lame-duck president for months after the election... that’s a remnant of a time when communication took longer.
It’d be nice if we could put bipartisanism aside and make this a faster transition.

People like to complain about the Electoral College, but these are people who generally don’t understand our country and our founding.

There’s an argument to be made that we should get rid of it. It’s not valid however to state that an election is ‘stolen’ or ‘unfair’ or anything else like that because some losing candidate “won the popular vote”. The “popular vote” is meaningless in our system and crying about it after the fact is the same as a 9yo crying about losing because the “rules were unfair”. If there was a different system candidates would run campaigns differently, and people would vote differently, and so you can’t assume the “winner” of the “popular vote” would “win” if the system was changed prior to the fact.


so can you explain howfair it is that depending on your state your vote has more or less weight? the electoral college system is not accurate in terms of population per state. Also... candidates end up campaigning actually only for swinging states and take some states for granted.
If all votes counted the same... you would campaign for sociodemographics... not for locations


It’s “fair” because those are the rules and everyone knows it.
It’s “fair” because we are a Constitutional Republic, and a collection of States... and not a Monolithic Democracy.
The voting power of people as represented in the Senate gives more power to people from low-population State also, why don’t people complain about that system?

I’m not saying it’s the best system.
I’m not saying I’m opposed to changing it, in a forward looking fashion.

Basically all I am saying is that it annoys me when people cry about the results and “fairness” after the fact.

Yes... if the vote was tallied in a different manner people would run in a different manner.
This may or may not be good. I’m open to ideas to change it IN THE FUTURE.

You could have many different methods of tallying the vote... one person one vote, one family one vote, ranked voting, run-off elections, voting by all residents not just citizens, voting based on tax burden, etc.


your whole system is based on things that made sense like 250 years ago. you guys have such a young country that you think your constitution shouldn't ever be touched or something... and avoid modernity. A lot of things have changed since the horse and carriage. Like we got steam trains and all that.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:55 pm

saxitoxin wrote:This must end. It's time for Trump to declare the election over and call out the Army to impose law and order.

The Democrats are now losing their minds over their defeat. Democrats have started attacking voters with knives, and Biden - unsatisfied with the outcome the voters have given - is now lawyering up to try to get a win in the courts and bypass the election results.


lol, you think the deep state would allow that? I wish he does it.. so he can end up in prison as the first dictator of the youessovay
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:06 pm

betiko wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:This must end. It's time for Trump to declare the election over and call out the Army to impose law and order.

The Democrats are now losing their minds over their defeat. Democrats have started attacking voters with knives, and Biden - unsatisfied with the outcome the voters have given - is now lawyering up to try to get a win in the courts and bypass the election results.


lol, you think the deep state would allow that? I wish he does it.. so he can end up in prison as the first dictator of the youessovay


It doesn't matter. If Biden is inaugurated it will be the most ineffective presidency in history. He's the first president in 35 years not to enter office with control of Congress. He won't be able to pass a single piece of legislation. His inauguration will be protested. He will be sued to death. There will be daily Senate hearings on every scandalous rumor about him, no matter how little evidence. He won't even be able to appoint a single cabinet officer - there will be no confirmations. He'll have to run the government through the civil service. If you thought Trump was bad the GOP can make sure this is hell on Earth. This will be the first campaign that doesn't end on election day, the Trump campaign will continue running the nastiest possible negative ads against Biden right up until inauguration to ensure he enters office with a under-50% approval rating.

If Breyer dies, the Supreme Court will have to get along with only eight justices until Biden is gone.

We're entering a four year period of total paralysis where not a single thing will happen, which is just fine with me.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby riskllama on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:09 pm

me too!!! as long as Trump is gone : *thumbs up*

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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:32 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
betiko wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:This must end. It's time for Trump to declare the election over and call out the Army to impose law and order.

The Democrats are now losing their minds over their defeat. Democrats have started attacking voters with knives, and Biden - unsatisfied with the outcome the voters have given - is now lawyering up to try to get a win in the courts and bypass the election results.


lol, you think the deep state would allow that? I wish he does it.. so he can end up in prison as the first dictator of the youessovay


It doesn't matter. If Biden is inaugurated it will be the most ineffective presidency in history. He's the first president in 35 years not to enter office with control of Congress. He won't be able to pass a single piece of legislation. His inauguration will be protested. He will be sued to death. There will be daily Senate hearings on every scandalous rumor about him, no matter how little evidence. He won't even be able to appoint a single cabinet officer - there will be no confirmations. He'll have to run the government through the civil service. If you thought Trump was bad the GOP can make sure this is hell on Earth. This will be the first campaign that doesn't end on election day, the Trump campaign will continue running the nastiest possible negative ads against Biden right up until inauguration to ensure he enters office with a under-50% approval rating.

If Breyer dies, the Supreme Court will have to get along with only eight justices until Biden is gone.

We're entering a four year period of total paralysis where not a single thing will happen, which is just fine with me.


i'd rather see an old ineffective man rather than a destructive despot
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:37 pm

betiko wrote:
i'd rather see an old ineffective man rather than a destructive despot


Yup.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:49 pm

betiko wrote:come on biden flips florida again!!!!!!!
basically from wat I understand from your country... people from florida are wacky morrons, drug dealing latinos, retired rich guys and they all get to chose the president, the rest doesn't matter


Yo missed my demographic by a mile.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:54 pm

jimboston wrote:
I think they should have in-person polls for a week... and mail-in only if requested and only if you state a valid reason.
There SHOULD be some barriers to voting... like caring.


I would hope that the people who support the second amendment would be up in arms with that suggestion. And I am not talking about the caring part. If someone votes I give them the benefit of the doubt that they care. Even if they do vote by mail.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:02 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
betiko wrote:come on biden flips florida again!!!!!!!
basically from wat I understand from your country... people from florida are wacky morrons, drug dealing latinos, retired rich guys and they all get to chose the president, the rest doesn't matter


Yo missed my demographic by a mile.


not even a wacky retired latino?
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:11 pm

betiko wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
betiko wrote:come on biden flips florida again!!!!!!!
basically from wat I understand from your country... people from florida are wacky morrons, drug dealing latinos, retired rich guys and they all get to chose the president, the rest doesn't matter


Yo missed my demographic by a mile.


not even a wacky retired latino?


You got 1 out of 3 on that one.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:24 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
betiko wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:This must end. It's time for Trump to declare the election over and call out the Army to impose law and order.

The Democrats are now losing their minds over their defeat. Democrats have started attacking voters with knives, and Biden - unsatisfied with the outcome the voters have given - is now lawyering up to try to get a win in the courts and bypass the election results.


lol, you think the deep state would allow that? I wish he does it.. so he can end up in prison as the first dictator of the youessovay


It doesn't matter. If Biden is inaugurated it will be the most ineffective presidency in history. He's the first president in 35 years not to enter office with control of Congress. He won't be able to pass a single piece of legislation. His inauguration will be protested. He will be sued to death. There will be daily Senate hearings on every scandalous rumor about him, no matter how little evidence. He won't even be able to appoint a single cabinet officer - there will be no confirmations. He'll have to run the government through the civil service. If you thought Trump was bad the GOP can make sure this is hell on Earth. This will be the first campaign that doesn't end on election day, the Trump campaign will continue running the nastiest possible negative ads against Biden right up until inauguration to ensure he enters office with a under-50% approval rating.

If Breyer dies, the Supreme Court will have to get along with only eight justices until Biden is gone.

We're entering a four year period of total paralysis where not a single thing will happen, which is just fine with me.


Wow, Saxi already giving his concession speech before all the results are in?
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:35 pm

Great news, local Trump supporters have surrounded the Central Counting Board in Detroit to stop the ballot box stuffing of Biden. These are mostly older people now, but armed supporters from the Army of Trump are apparently en route to ensure the civil rights of voters are protected. The Detroit Police Union endorsed President Trump and police have withdrawn from the site. Election workers have attempted to barricade the doors so they can continue rigging the election but it's unclear how long those doors will hold against the Pro-Trump Democracy Activists.


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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:47 pm

Kinda surprised no one has mentioned the multiple states that each had hundreds of thousands of votes entered for one candidate whilst zero entered for the other... All that happened at a shift change...
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby riskllama on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:02 pm

boaterfraud, for sure like, w/o a doubt... :lol:
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Chaos in Detroit as Biden's counters are barricading windows so ballot stuffing can't be seen.

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This chaos must end. Arrest Biden now. If he is inaugurated, the 50% of the nation who were disenfranchised by the fraud will be likely to undertake maximum resistance using all available methods.

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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:30 pm

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Biden looks screwed even if he wins

At a minimum, the lackluster performance of Democratic Senate candidates would hamstring a President Biden from Day One.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/0 ... ins-434013


If Biden ends up stealing the election, Republicans can still utterly destroy the oldest president in history as both a politician and as a person. The GOP still controls the Senate, the GOP has eaten into the Democratic House majority, and Biden will have underperformed in the election. Plus, we now control more state governments than a week ago and Trump is still in charge of deciding the final census results. We can now spend the next two years redrawing every legislative and congressional district in America to favor the GOP.

On his way out the door, Trump can do extreme damage. Moving forward, the GOP-run Senate can announce it will refuse to enact a single piece of legislation or confirm a single judge in the next two years. Refuse to pass any budget and let the government shut down for weeks on end so that Americans associate paralysis and failure with a Democratic presidency. Launch a revolving door of investigations into Biden to drain his personal finances on lawyers. Watch his leftist base erode as he has to pay back so-called Lincoln Republicans with cabinet posts. Sue Biden for everything - sue Biden if he closes the door to the Oval Office and sue him if he leaves it open. Appeal every lawsuit to the Trump-chosen Supreme Court.



I mean you KNOW you’ve made a good decision for your chosen leader when you are hoping he does “extreme damage”.
That’s a leader!
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:33 pm

saxitoxin wrote:This must end. It's time for Trump to declare the election over and call out the Army to impose law and order.

The Democrats are now losing their minds over their defeat. Democrats have started attacking voters with knives, and Biden - unsatisfied with the outcome the voters have given - is now lawyering up to try to get a win in the courts and bypass the election results.


Did you read the article?

“ WASHINGTON — Editor's Note: An earlier version of this story cited a preliminary police statement that identified two rival groups as those involved. Police have since clarified that they do not know whether the suspects and victims are affiliated with protest groups. ”
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:38 pm

betiko wrote:your whole system is based on things that made sense like 250 years ago. you guys have such a young country that you think your constitution shouldn't ever be touched or something... and avoid modernity. A lot of things have changed since the horse and carriage. Like we got steam trains and all that.


Who are “you guys”?

We have a system for changing the Constitution. It’s been amended in the past and will be amended again.

It’s unlikely to get amended in the atmosphere of vitriol we have now... and atmosphere that is flamed by the two parties that benefit most from dividing and ruling the people... but please don’t paint all Americans with one brush.

I support the idea of modifying the rules and system.

I just can’t stand people who say things like “Trump really lost in 2016 because he lost the popular vote.”
Statements like that, and the feelings they confirm, are idiotic and childlike.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:43 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
jimboston wrote:
I think they should have in-person polls for a week... and mail-in only if requested and only if you state a valid reason.
There SHOULD be some barriers to voting... like caring.


I would hope that the people who support the second amendment would be up in arms with that suggestion. And I am not talking about the caring part. If someone votes I give them the benefit of the doubt that they care. Even if they do vote by mail.


I support mail-in voting... especially during a pandemic.. but I don’t think the government should mail out unsolicited ballots.

.. and yes you should have a valid reason.
It can be as simple as you checking a box saying “for health reasons”, and then you sign it.

Which part of my proposal do you take exception with?

Why can’t they have polls that run for a week in a city or town hall... if you have whole week to go then you don’t have the ‘excuse’ that it;s not convenient, and there would be no lines. They could even setup a website to tell you estimated waiting time at your precinct.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby HitRed on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:46 pm

God calls on Trump to fight election results. Calls for prayers.

November 4, 20

Yes, I am the one speaking to you. I have secured a place for you. My will be done on earth as in Heaven.

My chosen one* will defeat the enemy that is at hand. My mercy is great for those who seek my mercy and it’s benefits. The election in your country has been compromised to benefit those whose greed is power. My will is for the strong to conquer the evil that seeks ruin of this great nation.

I live in the hearts of those that believe in the great power of that which my Father gave to me. I believe those who seek me with their hearts seek truth.

The media in your country is biased to one party - the party that seeks power for its own agenda. There is much that goes unseen by the people of this country, but I see all that is being done to destroy your country. The fight is with an enemy that is not seen by human eyes. Only revealed when shown through the evil that is in the hearts of those who willingly follow evil ways.

There are those who seek good and want what is good for all, like your leader* who I have chosen to lead this country forward. He will not accept what is going on. He must stand for truth and freedom! He needs prayers for this battle that is raging for control.

Go in my love and grace.


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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:48 pm

Why is Trump afraid to count the legal and legitimate votes of citizens?
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby HitRed on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:50 pm

The election in your country has been compromised to benefit those whose greed is power.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:50 pm

HitRed wrote:God calls on Trump to fight election results. Calls for prayers for Trump.



How can anyone who claims to be religious support Trump?

Yes, he’s crammed the court full of ProLifers. Fine.

... but personally everything he does and represents is antithetical to the idea of what it means to be a good Christian.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:52 pm

HitRed wrote:
The election in your country has been compromised to benefit those whose greed is power.


I agree with this, because it applies to both parties.... dating back at least 50 years if not all the way to the founding.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby HitRed on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:54 pm

jimboston wrote:
HitRed wrote:God calls on Trump to fight election results. Calls for prayers for Trump.



How can anyone who claims to be religious support Trump?

Yes, he’s crammed the court full of ProLifers. Fine.

... but personally everything he does and represents is antithetical to the idea of what it means to be a good Christian.


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