Democrats continue the Crises over Illegal Immigration

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[i][size=150][b]Trump is the cause of all this chaos.

Governor Newsom responds to Trump's lies.

Really? Trump caused rioters to burn, loot, and destroy property? For what? Arresting ILLEGAL ALIENS? IS THAT why the people in Arkansas rioted when the Feds arrested a few of their relatives???? IS THAT how this works??? This is Justice, riot when you do not like Laws that are enforced??? REALLY?

And who was waving Mexican Flags? And who was the IDIOT who used his skateboard to break the windows of a police car? And TRUMP MADE the rioters burn police cars? REALLY? Tell me more LIES, patheric rat.

I KNEW that pathetic rat would take the bait and defend the indefensible criminals. Well Done, pathetic rat.

[Pack Rat]

Calm down Karen, you're such a drama queen.

[ConfederateSS]

-----------WHOA ...Jp4fun......
-----------It's O.K. in AMERICA to wave any flag...
----------- If someone waving a Mexican flag is wrong to you...Houses flying Mexican flags, block and blocks...You might want to never come near Southwest Detroit...
----------- Especially on Cinco De Mayo...But everyday is a Fiesta...In Southwest Detroit... ...Just ask Serbia...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

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[b]Calm down Karen, you're such a drama queen.

First of all, calling me a name is not a refutation, but something a six year old does on the Playground. SAD.

Second, you never refute anything, you merely engage is pointless insults and sad & mindless videos, THAT NO ONE claims to watch. PATHETIC.

And who is the one using fancy fonts and bolds and other silliness? If you can't dazzle them with FACTS, try to dazzle them with distractions and CRAP. Is this your distraction (AND your CRAP), since your WEAK attempt to side with Gavin Newsome is going NO WHERE fast? Another pathetic response from our resident pathetic sewer dweller, pathetic RAT.

[Pack Rat]

Calm down Karen, you're such a drama queen.

First of all, calling me a name is not a refutation, but something a six year old does on the Playground. SAD.

Second, you never refute anything, you merely engage is pointless insults and sad & mindless videos, THAT NO ONE claims to watch. PATHETIC.

And who is the one using fancy fonts and bolds and other silliness? If you can't dazzle them with FACTS, try to dazzle them with distractions and CRAP. Is this your distraction (AND your CRAP), since your WEAK attempt to side with Gavin Newsome is going NO WHERE fast? Another pathetic response from our resident pathetic sewer dweller, pathetic RAT.

What a hypocrite!

show

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There is a report of a peaceful protest in the LA that quickly, within 5 minutes, turned violent. AND I AM SURE that too is Trump's fault.

Gavin, continue to do what you do and continue to run the state of California into the ground. Keep spending money that you do not have.

AI Overview
In the 2024-25 fiscal year, California faced a significant budget deficit, with the Legislative Analyst's Office (LAO) initially projecting a shortfall of around $68 billion. This was revised later, with the LAO estimating a deficit of $73 billion. The governor's budget, however, projected a smaller deficit of $37.9 billion.

[Pack Rat]

Trump is sending in the troops!



Governor Newsom on the phone with Trump last Friday night:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjp9td6M/

[mookiemcgee]

There is a report of a peaceful protest in the LA that quickly, within 5 minutes, turned violent. AND I AM SURE that too is Trump's fault.

Gavin, continue to do what you do and continue to run the state of California into the ground. Keep spending money that you do not have.

AI Overview
In the 2024-25 fiscal year, California faced a significant budget deficit, with the Legislative Analyst's Office (LAO) initially projecting a shortfall of around $68 billion. This was revised later, with the LAO estimating a deficit of $73 billion. The governor's budget, however, projected a smaller deficit of $37.9 billion.

You are from Virginia right? The state that takes the most dollars from the federal gov't and returns the fewest? The single biggest leech state in the Union and you want to give fiscal responsibility lessons to the governor of the 4th largest economy in the world?

since you seem enthralled with AI Overview
Several states receive more federal funding than they contribute in taxes. In 2022, Virginia was the top recipient, receiving $108 billion more in federal spending than its residents and businesses paid in federal taxes.

How big of a deficit does the proposed federel republican budget project again? Oh yeah...

AI Overview
Multiple sources indicate that the projected federal deficit for 2026, if a Trump administration budget is enacted, would likely increase significantly.
Here's a breakdown of the projected impacts:
Deficit Increase: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates a House-passed bill, reflecting key elements of the Trump agenda, would increase the deficit by $2.4 trillion

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First of all, notice that Mookie totally ignore the TOPIC of this thread and tries to derail discussion of IMMIGRATION by offering a red herring. I will not ignore this apparent attempt to derail the discussion here, as he seeminly does not like my attack on Gavin and the California budget deficits. I will thus to a double post here, one to address Mookie's concern and another to return to the topic of IMMIGRATION.

And do you KNOW WHY VA gets so many Federal Dollars?

1) DC subway "bandits" who get many Federal Government jobs and dollars as contractors, employees, and agencies/installations/offices (and from the spending by Federal employees, too, to be Honest, that benefit the state via Sales Tax);

2) Many military installations in VA. Have you ever heard of the Naval Installations in the Norfolk area? LOTS, and not counting others near Richmond.

Maryland gets lots of Federal money, too, but I am only aware of two very large Military installation in MD: Aberdeen and the Naval Academy. Those are the advantages as well as drawbacks of being so close to the Capital of the USA.

The Virginia Founding Fathers knew the value of having the US Capital near the South and near VA was the compromise location, barely on the edge of the Southern (then) Colonies. Maryland, MD, gave land for the NEW Capital, later called the District of Columbus (DC). Notice too that ALL that land is in the former state of MD.

Most of VA's population is near DC, and so is much of VA's wealth, tied to the Federal Government. Tourism and Agriculture are important economic engines for VA, too, as is Technology, driven in part to excellent Colleges and Universities in the State of VA.

AI Overview

Virginia's economy is a diverse and strong one, with a Gross State Product (GSP) of $601.2 billion in 2024, and a real GDP of $616.1 billion. It's the 13th largest state in terms of GDP and boasts a high GDP per capita, ranking 19th among US states. Key sectors include professional and business services, real estate, manufacturing, and defense. Agriculture is also a significant contributor to the state's economy.

I am sure that the

professional and business services

are driven by Federal dollars, by and large.

Key Economic Drivers:

Northern Virginia, particularly Fairfax County, is a significant economic driver, with a GDP surpassing $300 billion and contributing 9% growth year over year.

Manufacturing and Defense:

Virginia has a strong manufacturing base, particularly in transportation equipment, and a high concentration of defense industry jobs, with the state having the highest per capita defense spending in the U.S.

and more:

AI Overview
Virginia has a thriving technology sector, known for its large and diverse ecosystem, strong data center market, and focus on emerging technologies like AI, cybersecurity, and cloud computing. The state boasts the third-largest tech industry workforce in the nation, with a significant presence in software development, cybersecurity, and data centers.

Virginia (VA) does not have a Silicon Valley, as does CA, but does have a significant economic impact due to techology.

and

AI Overview
In 2023, Northern Virginia held approximately 37% of Virginia's total population. This translates to about 3,257,133 people residing in the region.

more:

AI Overview
Compared to other states, Virginia's tourism industry is a significant contributor to the state's economy, ranking among the top states in the nation.

BTW: Cutbacks of Federal Spending by Trump will hurt the statewide VA Offices this year, for Governor and LT. GOV. and Attorney General, as well as in the State Legislature. There is ALSO lots of OUTSIDE (of VA) money pouring into campaigns of Abigail Spanberger and other Dem candidates. That money will impact the election, as there is NO Trump-like candidate that can beat that large cash flow into the state

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And now, back on Topic:

LA Leaders finally act to quell the violence, looting, vandalism, and destruction of property in the "City of Angels."

And how long has this violence gone on, before a curfew is imposed by LA Leaders? Day 5. The violence finally eases, but Trumps sends in the National Guard Day 1 after LA Police were LATE arriving to assist ICE with the protests that broke out. If we waited for LA leaders to act, how much worse would be the violence and looting and destruction?

And is the mantra "largely peaceful protests" an excuse to allow and justify the VIOLENCE?

Live updates: Downtown LA now under curfew after looting and vandalism

What to Know

A curfew was declared for part of downtown LA after a night of vandalism and looting.

Some downtown LA businesses were damaged and looted Monday night after a day of largely peaceful protests turned violent.

The LAPD reported more than 100 arrests, including for looting, after Monday's protests and violence in downtown LA.

California filed an emergency motion to block President Trump from expanding the mission of federalized National Guard members and Marines in LA.

Several protesters were detained after they walked onto the 101 Freeway, blocking traffic Tuesday afternoon in downtown LA.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/live-updates-more-anti-ice-demonstrations-expected-for-the-fifth-straight-day-in-los-angeles/3719960/

Military deployment in L.A. puts Trump's authority to use troops at home in the spotlight
So far, the military is protecting federal property and functions, but Trump potentially has the power to expand its role under the Insurrection Act.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's move to send National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles amid unrest over his immigration policies has given new weight to a lingering question: How far can a president go in using the military to quell domestic disturbances?

For now, the military has a limited role in Los Angeles, at least on paper, focused on protecting federal buildings and activities. But that hasn't stopped California's Democratic leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom, from vehemently objecting to Trump's actions. (...)

Ilan Wurman, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, said that to this point, Trump has acted within existing precedents that allow the president to use the military to assist with the enforcement of federal law.

“Federalizing the National Guard, using regular forces to restore order, is in my view well within the range of prior precedents,” he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/military-deployment-l-puts-trumps-authority-use-troops-home-spotlight-rcna212064

and

As immigration operations continue across Southern California, many of those who’ve been detained are being taken to six processing centers in the state, including one facility in San Bernardino County.

Legal experts say undocumented immigrants taken to the Adelanto Detention Center are already in the removal process. They also say detainees are in limbo because they have not yet been processed, which poses a challenge for those who are seeking help.

“If someone is taken to Adelanto, it means they are in removal proceedings,” said Benjamin Wood, legal director in the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice. “In most cases, if they have been here for two years, they have an opportunity to fight the case. There is an immigration court inside the facility, where they hear the cases of people detained there.”

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/san-bernardino-county-facility-one-of-socals-detention-centers-housing-immigrants/3720862/

And what does Gavin Newsom do to alleviate the situation? Sue Trump for exceeding his authority, when this is clearly NOT the case. Well Done, Gavin, try to ease the violence by going to Court as the LA Police are overwhelmed in dealing with the violence.

L.A. Police Chief Admits Officers ‘Overwhelmed’ as Thousands of Rioters Block Freeway, Torch Cars

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-deploys-national-guard-to-los-angeles-as-immigration-riots-rage/

[Pack Rat]

And now, back on Topic:

LA Leaders finally act to quell the violence, looting, vandalism, and destruction of property in the "City of Angels."

And how long has this violence gone on, before a curfew is imposed by LA Leaders? Day 5. The violence finally eases, but Trumps sends in the National Guard Day 1 after LA Police were LATE arriving to assist ICE with the protests that broke out. If we waited for LA leaders to act, how much worse would be the violence and looting and destruction?

And is the mantra "largely peaceful protests" an excuse to allow and justify the VIOLENCE?

Live updates: Downtown LA now under curfew after looting and vandalism

What to Know

A curfew was declared for part of downtown LA after a night of vandalism and looting.

Some downtown LA businesses were damaged and looted Monday night after a day of largely peaceful protests turned violent.

The LAPD reported more than 100 arrests, including for looting, after Monday's protests and violence in downtown LA.

California filed an emergency motion to block President Trump from expanding the mission of federalized National Guard members and Marines in LA.

Several protesters were detained after they walked onto the 101 Freeway, blocking traffic Tuesday afternoon in downtown LA.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/live-updates-more-anti-ice-demonstrations-expected-for-the-fifth-straight-day-in-los-angeles/3719960/

Military deployment in L.A. puts Trump's authority to use troops at home in the spotlight
So far, the military is protecting federal property and functions, but Trump potentially has the power to expand its role under the Insurrection Act.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's move to send National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles amid unrest over his immigration policies has given new weight to a lingering question: How far can a president go in using the military to quell domestic disturbances?

For now, the military has a limited role in Los Angeles, at least on paper, focused on protecting federal buildings and activities. But that hasn't stopped California's Democratic leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom, from vehemently objecting to Trump's actions. (...)

Ilan Wurman, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, said that to this point, Trump has acted within existing precedents that allow the president to use the military to assist with the enforcement of federal law.

“Federalizing the National Guard, using regular forces to restore order, is in my view well within the range of prior precedents,” he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/military-deployment-l-puts-trumps-authority-use-troops-home-spotlight-rcna212064

and

As immigration operations continue across Southern California, many of those who’ve been detained are being taken to six processing centers in the state, including one facility in San Bernardino County.

Legal experts say undocumented immigrants taken to the Adelanto Detention Center are already in the removal process. They also say detainees are in limbo because they have not yet been processed, which poses a challenge for those who are seeking help.

“If someone is taken to Adelanto, it means they are in removal proceedings,” said Benjamin Wood, legal director in the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice. “In most cases, if they have been here for two years, they have an opportunity to fight the case. There is an immigration court inside the facility, where they hear the cases of people detained there.”

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/san-bernardino-county-facility-one-of-socals-detention-centers-housing-immigrants/3720862/

And what does Gavin Newsom do to alleviate the situation? Sue Trump for exceeding his authority, when this is clearly NOT the case. Well Done, Gavin, try to ease the violence by going to Court as the LA Police are overwhelmed in dealing with the violence.

L.A. Police Chief Admits Officers ‘Overwhelmed’ as Thousands of Rioters Block Freeway, Torch Cars

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-deploys-national-guard-to-los-angeles-as-immigration-riots-rage/

Back to reality:

[Pack Rat]

Trump is calling them insurrectionists?


https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjsjcKNH/

[jusplay4fun]

And now, back on Topic:

LA Leaders finally act to quell the violence, looting, vandalism, and destruction of property in the "City of Angels."

And how long has this violence gone on, before a curfew is imposed by LA Leaders? Day 5. The violence finally eases, but Trumps sends in the National Guard Day 1 after LA Police were LATE arriving to assist ICE with the protests that broke out. If we waited for LA leaders to act, how much worse would be the violence and looting and destruction?

And is the mantra "largely peaceful protests" an excuse to allow and justify the VIOLENCE?

Live updates: Downtown LA now under curfew after looting and vandalism

What to Know

A curfew was declared for part of downtown LA after a night of vandalism and looting.

Some downtown LA businesses were damaged and looted Monday night after a day of largely peaceful protests turned violent.

The LAPD reported more than 100 arrests, including for looting, after Monday's protests and violence in downtown LA.

California filed an emergency motion to block President Trump from expanding the mission of federalized National Guard members and Marines in LA.

Several protesters were detained after they walked onto the 101 Freeway, blocking traffic Tuesday afternoon in downtown LA.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/live-updates-more-anti-ice-demonstrations-expected-for-the-fifth-straight-day-in-los-angeles/3719960/

Military deployment in L.A. puts Trump's authority to use troops at home in the spotlight
So far, the military is protecting federal property and functions, but Trump potentially has the power to expand its role under the Insurrection Act.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's move to send National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles amid unrest over his immigration policies has given new weight to a lingering question: How far can a president go in using the military to quell domestic disturbances?

For now, the military has a limited role in Los Angeles, at least on paper, focused on protecting federal buildings and activities. But that hasn't stopped California's Democratic leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom, from vehemently objecting to Trump's actions. (...)

Ilan Wurman, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, said that to this point, Trump has acted within existing precedents that allow the president to use the military to assist with the enforcement of federal law.

“Federalizing the National Guard, using regular forces to restore order, is in my view well within the range of prior precedents,” he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/military-deployment-l-puts-trumps-authority-use-troops-home-spotlight-rcna212064

and

As immigration operations continue across Southern California, many of those who’ve been detained are being taken to six processing centers in the state, including one facility in San Bernardino County.

Legal experts say undocumented immigrants taken to the Adelanto Detention Center are already in the removal process. They also say detainees are in limbo because they have not yet been processed, which poses a challenge for those who are seeking help.

“If someone is taken to Adelanto, it means they are in removal proceedings,” said Benjamin Wood, legal director in the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice. “In most cases, if they have been here for two years, they have an opportunity to fight the case. There is an immigration court inside the facility, where they hear the cases of people detained there.”

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/san-bernardino-county-facility-one-of-socals-detention-centers-housing-immigrants/3720862/

And what does Gavin Newsom do to alleviate the situation? Sue Trump for exceeding his authority, when this is clearly NOT the case. Well Done, Gavin, try to ease the violence by going to Court as the LA Police are overwhelmed in dealing with the violence.

L.A. Police Chief Admits Officers ‘Overwhelmed’ as Thousands of Rioters Block Freeway, Torch Cars

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-deploys-national-guard-to-los-angeles-as-immigration-riots-rage/

Back to reality:

Reality is pathetic rat's feeble ATTEMPTED refutation of ALL my points with two silly videos, one by Gavin Newsom, Presidential hopeful (READ: partisan politician) who does not know how to balance a budget. And Newsom does not know how to maintain order as he bends over backwards and twists himself into a pretzel trying to justify his LACK of actions beyond a foolish lawsuit.

And NOW I hear Newsom's lawsuit (trying to STOP Trump) was rejected by the Courts. TOO BAD, so SAD, and he had almost NO CHANCE to win that one. He tried to score political points by protecting ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL immigrants and VIOLENT RIOTERS. What a FOOL he is. You need a better mouthpiece, pee rat; this one failed MISERABLY.

AND pee rat needed a DOUBLE post for TWO videos only, 15 minutes apart. I guess he nearly OD'd watching too many videos.

[Pack Rat]

Let's sing along for our Dear Leader!


https://youtu.be/AJnd3EXeY30?si=FHgW2vWvQovlit1r

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[size=150]Let's sing along for our Dear Leader!

for Gavin Newsom? NO WAY. Gavin is almost as clueless as Mayor Karen Bass and as pack rat.

Oh, THIS is the Karen of which you speak, Karen Bass?

Pack Rat wrote:
Calm down Karen, you're such a drama queen.

Then YOU'RE Correct to ask her to calm down; she is indeed a CLUELESS Drama Queen. Your kind of Girl, I am sure, pack rat. Keep on supporting her and Gavin, TOO.

Gavin LOST his Court case on immigration. Karen Bass FINALLY issues a curfew and finally things calm down in LA. It took ONLY FIVE days for drama queen Karen Bass to FIGURE THAT OUT?

AND NO, you, pack rat, do not want to ADDRESS any of these issues, because you CANNOT REFUTE any of my points. PATHETIC.

Go ahead, post another silly video and PRETEND that you know something.

[Pack Rat]

Sorry if I hit a nerve...kiddo.

Trump is thin skin like yourself. He just uninvited (deported) Senator Paul from the White House Picnic.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjst1XwS/

[Dukasaur]

A U.S. Senator was just body slammed and handcuffed for asking SA Gauführer Noem a question.

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Appeals court blocks earlier ruling, allows Trump to command California Guard for now

Just a couple hours after a federal judge had ordered President Trump to relinquish control of the California National Guard saying he had violated the U.S. Constitution, an appeals court put the order on hold until a hearing on an appeal can be held Tuesday.

The appeals court did not address the merits of the case or the judge's ruling earlier in the day. But it was a stunning turnaround in northern California courts that will play out on Los Angeles streets.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom had said he planned to return the 4,000 Guard Friday to their regular duties protecting the border, working on wildfire prevention or returning to their day jobs. Instead, it looked as if they will continue under the command of Trump, facing off with protesters in downtown Los Angeles.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/nx-s1-5429752/trump-newsom-california-national-guard-ice-immigration

[Pack Rat]

A U.S. Senator was just body slammed and handcuffed for asking SA Gauführer Noem a question.

[jusplay4fun]

LA protests live: Marines in LA;

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/13/ice-protests-immigration-news-live-updates/84176164007/

As cities across the country braced for widespread protests against the Trump administration, hundreds of Marines have moved into Los Angeles and will soon begin guarding federal property and personnel, a commander said on Friday.

Maj. Gen. Scott Sherman, the commander overseeing thousands of troops deployed by President Donald Trump in Los Angeles, said 200 Marines will begin guarding the Wilshire Federal Building at noon local time. Their deployment will free up National Guard troops that were assigned to protect the building after protests erupted in the city one week ago.

Sherman said soldiers "will not participate in law enforcement activities" and added that none of the troops have detained anyone yet.

The news comes after an appeals court allowed Trump to maintain control of National Guard troops in Los Angeles, temporarily blocking a federal judge's earlier ruling that found the deployment unlawful and ordered Trump to return control of the troops back to Gov. Gavin Newsom.

The decision by the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals does not mean it will ultimately side with Trump, but it leaves control of the Guard in Trump's hands while it considers the case. A hearing is scheduled for Tuesday.
(...)

Americans split over Trump's military deployment in LA protests: poll
Americans are divided on Trump's decision to deploy the National Guard and Marines to Los Angeles in reaction to protests over his administration's immigration enforcement, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll has found.

Some 48% of respondents agreed with a statement that the president should "deploy the military to bring order to the streets" when protests turn violent, while 41% disagreed. Republicans overwhelmingly backed the idea of calling in troops while Democrats were firmly opposed.

Meanwhile, just 35% of respondents said they approved of Trump's response to the protests in Los Angeles. Some 50% of people in the poll said they disapproved of Trump's response.

On a related matter: What has been posted so far HERE is a BIASED point of view on the incident yesterday involving Senator Alex Padilla of CA.

I have held back from commenting on the incident involving Senator Alex Padilla and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem until now. I was trying to ascertain the facts, before commenting. It seems that some had to jump in without posting and/or knowing all the facts, simply parroting the "party lines" and the Democrat Party narrative. I saw the report during the news and I did not know who Padilla is. I have never heard of him before, tbh. I learned a few minutes ago that Gov. Newsom appointed Alex Padilla to fill the seat of Kamala Harris. I had assumed that the very liberal Newsom appointed another liberal to replace the wacky liberal (and cackling) Kamala; indeed that is what happened and I did not care to learn or know who.

As I watched the report, I saw the video where a man hurries/rushes/charges toward Noem and basically SHOUT something at Noem, who was holding a press conference. I did not hear him identify himself as a US Senator as he approaches Noem. Apparently NEITHER did the Noem security team of uniformed FBI agents, who then pushed Padilla out and then to the floor in a nearby hallway. It is reported that he did NOT wear his Senate ID PIN, whatever that is and that the agents did NOT know who he is. What I saw was a man who rushed toward the Secretary, unannounced and in a threatening manner. The Security Team did its job.

The allegation that Padilla was attempting to question Noem is a stretch, imo. I believe that Padilla did ALL THIS for show and to get attention. The Dems are acting as if this is a VIOLATION of Democracy, when in fact (from my perspective) this is another grandstanding effort by a Democratic Senator. Let the Democrats, like Schumer, have his 25 seconds of attention as he PROTESTS this incident:

Washington, D.C. – Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) today spoke on the Senate floor to demand answers on the manhandling and forceful removal of Senator Padilla from DHS Secretary Kristi Noem’s press conference. Below are [some of] Senator Schumer’s remarks,....

I just saw something that sickened my stomach, the manhandling of a United States Senator. We need immediate answers to what the hell went on.

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/leader-schumer-floor-remarks-demanding-immediate-investigation-into-federal-agents-forcefully-removing-senator-padilla-from-noems-dhs-press-conference

What happened? Padilla acted inappropriately; Noem did met with him later to answer his questions, which could have been DONE without ALL THIS GRANDSTANDING by Padilla. The Dems are so LACKING IN ISSUES AND LEADERSHIP that they have to manufacture a "CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS" to get attention of the media and the American people who are NOT protesting in the streets.

Here is one video which starts BEFORE he is pushed out the Room. Most of the liberals want to show ONLY the part in the HALL as Padilla was pushed to the floor, and not how he charged toward the Secretary during her press conference:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-senator-alex-padilla-forcibly-183036039.html

Be sure that ALL facts are presented before making a decision as to what happened and what the actual facts are. Be discerning not to let your own biases impact your conclusions and do not jump to premature conclusions.

[jusplay4fun]

Interesting, there is no response to my previous post. Moving ON:









and

[Pack Rat]

MAGA King throws out questions and demand answers:



Did Trump surrender to China?


TACO tarrif

[jusplay4fun]

I do not think this incident is one we want repeated anywhere, even outside the USA, even if some people do not like lawyers.

Knife-wielding man chases U.S. attorney in downtown Albany
Authorities believe the man who confronted John A. Sarcone III was in the country illegally
By Brendan J. Lyons, H. Rose Schneider, Mike Goodwin
June 18, 2025

ALBANY — A man armed with a knife confronted and chased U.S. Attorney John A. Sarcone III Tuesday night outside a downtown hotel, according to law enforcement officials.

The man approached Sarcone and pulled a knife and lunged toward the federal prosecutor, who retreated into the Hilton on Lodge Street. Police reviewed security camera footage that showed the man wielding a knife and appearing to pursue Sarcone as he ran toward the hotel lobby.

Authorities said Sarcone’s attacker, Saul Morales-Garcia, is from El Salvador and was in the country illegally after having been previously deported. He has had multiple brushes with police in several states, including an incident in Virginia where he was charged with physically threatening someone.

Sarcone told the Times Union that he had left his office on Broadway shortly before the incident and was walking by the hotel, smoking a cigar, when he noticed Morales-Garcia nearby acting strangely.

“I got my eye on him, then I turn back and I’m in front of the Hilton, and I’m just standing there, and I’m looking at him … and he then starts yelling at me in his language that I don’t understand,” Sarcone said. “I’m smoking a cigar. I don’t say anything to him … and then he pulls the knife. He’s lunging towards me, and I’m still standing there with the cigar.”

Sarcone said, “I know the streets,” and noted that his father was a detective in Westchester County. He said he maintained a safe distance from the man and retreated into the hotel lobby and called Sheriff Craig Apple, whose mobile number is in his contacts.

Sarcone said he went back outside to keep an eye on the man as police raced to the scene.

“I didn’t want him to get away, and I yelled out at him,” Sarcone continued. “He turns around, and he starts yelling again … and then he pulls the knife out, and then there’s this (gesture) across his throat thing, like he’s going to slit my throat, and then comes at me again, and I ran back towards the hotel, and then he stopped, and then turned around.”

Sarcone said deputies arrived at that moment and took the man into custody without incident. Police said the man was in possession of a knife and that they seized it as evidence. (...)

Records obtained by the Times Union indicate Morales-Garcia had been previously deported at least once — in 2010 — and apparently reentered the U.S. without authorization before making his way to Albany. He has an arrest warrant pending with the Forsyth County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia for failing to appear in court in May 2022. A month before that, he was convicted in Monroe County, Ga., on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol and driving without a license. It’s unclear if the two cases in Georgia are related.

In December 2023, he was arrested by federal Park Police in Virginia on charges of disorderly conduct, engaging in a physically threatening act likely to inflict injury, possessing an open container of alcohol and being intoxicated in public. In May 2024, he was charged with retail theft by police in a Philadelphia suburb. The outcome of those cases was not immediately available on Wednesday.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/knife-wielding-man-chases-u-s-attorney-downtown-20382778.php

US attorney chased by 'knife-wiedling illegal immigrant' in downtown Albany
Authorities believe the attacker, Saul Morales-Garcia, is from El Salvador and was in the country illegally after having been previously deported.

https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/175235/us-attorney-albany-attack-illegal-immigrant

[jusplay4fun]

Recent Developments. How far will Trump and ICE GO?

And how far is too far?

Federal immigration raid at Omaha meat production plant sparks protests

Updated 9:10 PM EDT, June 10, 2025

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Immigration authorities raided an Omaha meat production plant Tuesday morning and took dozens of workers away in buses, leaving company officials bewildered because they said they had followed the law.

The raid happened around 9 a.m. at Glenn Valley Foods in south Omaha, an area where nearly a quarter of residents were foreign born according to the 2020 census.

A small group of people came out to protest the raid, and some of them even jumped on the front bumper of a vehicle to try to stop officers in one location while others threw rocks at officials’ vehicles as a white bus carrying workers pulled away from a plant.

Chad Hartmann, president of the food packaging company, said the front office was stunned by the aggressive nature of federal officials’ raid and confused by why the company was targeted.

“My biggest issue is: why us?” Hartmann said. “We do everything by the book.”

The plant uses E-Verify, the federal database used to check the immigration status of employees. When he said as much to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers who carried out the raid, they told him the E-Verify system “is broken.”

“I mean, what am I supposed to do with that?” Hartmann said. “This is your system, run by the government. And you’re raiding me because your system is broken?” (...)

Meatpacking plants rely heavily on immigrant workers who are willing to do the physically demanding work. The industry has not yet been the focus of President Donald Trump’s immigration enforcement efforts, but the administration has been intensifying its efforts in recent weeks.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-raids-omaha-ice-food-plant-bebe9e642964aa06fbaef0b7e8ada093

Duk and I discussed this very point (perhaps twice already), that immigrants do this very difficult type of labor that MOST Americans do not want to do. We cannot afford to deport ALL immigrants who work in industries such as construction and food services, jobs that, again, most Americans do not want.

jusplay4fun wrote (6/7/25):

AND YES, without immigrants doing hard physical labor jobs, we would have trouble getting home and roads built, crops picked, hotel rooms cleaned; ALL the jobs Duk described. One more set of jobs MOST Americans refuse to do: meat packing and processing AND clean up after the meat is packed, too. Those are difficult and sometimes dangerous. There was a report a few years ago about a 14 year old child of immigrants cleaning a chicken processing plant who was killed in an accident on the 12-8 shift doing MAJOR clean up that was , quite frankly, VERY DANGEROUS, even for adults. So YES, I am quite aware of our dependence on immigrant workers and have been before 2026.

Dukasaur wrote (4/26/25):

You seem sincere in wanting the good, hardworking migrants to get a chance to become citizens, but he does not.

my response; jusplay4fun wrote:

Thanks, Duk. Yes, I am sincere in my feelings about most immigrants being good folks who want to work hard and provide for their families. And yes, among them are a few "bad apples." Those bad apples/Criminals are the ones I want to see deported. I have not heard Trump say that he will stop deportations once he deports most of the bad criminals that he can find. That concerns me, that he will deport many folks that I think SHOULD be allowed to stay.

We need to LAWS passed by Congress on many things: budget and immigration are two very important examples. Use of Executive Orders can only do so much. The Budget beyond the latest continuing resolution needs to be passed. The last I heard, there were some 40 Republicans in the House who want bigger and deeper spending cuts and were thus opposed to the Bill passed by the Senate.

We shall watch and see what happens on immigration (and deportations). We will also watch what happens regardging peace, cuts to the Government, and the Economy and many other issues. I think Trump's handling of tariffs shows that he does respond to criticisms and to what happens, for example to Wall Street and the Bond market.

and more; by me (4/25/25) all from this very thread:

I think, other than one Administrative error, that Trump is managing the immigration crises well. Just as Trump said, we did not need a new law, just a new President.

I do not want to see ALL illegal immigrants deported. The VAST majority are hard-working and family oriented. We need those workers. Most will become good citizens and so will there children. I have little doubt of that. I met a young lady, Hispanic, and fluent in Spanish (and English) at our weekly feeding of the Poor and needy at my Church. She is an engineering student who currently has a GPA of 3.8; her boyfriend is not as fluent in English, but works as a welder, but wants to be a nurse. I told BOTH that we need good engineers, good welders, and good nurses. We need their energy and drive and family values of such people.

I interact often with Hispanics, many who are immigrants. Most I encounter at my Church, but some at the local Food Bank I volunteer at. I do not ask their status, except of one man whom I greatly respect. I wrote a letter on his behalf as he applies for citizenship via a lawyer. He asked my to write the letter over one year ago. I gladly agreed to do so. I check with him once in a while to see how that process is progressing.

I think illegal immigrants who are criminals should be deported as expeditiously as possible following due process.

and July 5, 2023, jusplay4fun wrote:

We in the USA need immigrants. Most, the vast majority actually, bring their work ethic and their hard work and (at some point) their families and ALL of them make this country BETTER. We cannot have virtually open borders, as Biden's previous policy(s) encouraged.