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SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:17 pm

This is one of those stories that the UFO people have been saying for years:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40894444

Canada's foreign ministry is investigating after at least one of its diplomats stationed in Cuba was treated for hearing loss and headaches.

It comes a day after the US said its diplomats in Havana were experiencing strange physical symptoms.

Reports suggest the envoys could have been targeted by a covert sonic device that causes hearing loss.

Havana denies the allegation, but the US has removed two Cuban diplomats from Washington in retaliation.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby riskllama on Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:39 pm

if anybody placed a device, i'd bet it wasn't cuba.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:36 pm

It'd be kind of weird if Cuba was really responsible. Turns out Canadian diplomats were also targeted- Canada being one of the countries serving as an intermediary between the US and Cuba.

It really sounds like the kind of shit Russia likes to pull. Weird weapon? Check. Drive a wedge between potential allies? Check. Reliving the Cold War? Check. Aggressive response to sanctions? Check.

It really is Russia's MO.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:36 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41490357

Things are escalating. Apparently the Americans wanted to install a surrender button in Cuba.

The US has expelled 15 Cuban diplomats, saying Havana failed to protect US diplomats from mysterious acoustic attacks.

"The decision was made due to Cuba's failure to take appropriate steps to protect our diplomats in accordance with its obligations under the Vienna Convention. This order will ensure equity in our respective diplomatic operations," US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said in a statement on Tuesday.

The Cuban diplomats have been given seven days to leave.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby mrswdk on Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:57 pm

lol @ Sym trying to blame it on Russia
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby betiko on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:04 pm

this is probably due to some sort of fidel castro 10h monologue infiltrated under their pillow playing with a 1983 yellow walkman
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:07 pm

mrswdk wrote:lol @ Sym trying to blame it on Russia


Well, who benefits? It's a simple question that cuts to the heart of the question.

Cuba gets nothing out of it.
The US doesn't either.
Nothing for Canada.

It's not as if Russia doesn't have form here. Weird weapons- Nuclear poison in the UK, obviously. Attacks on politicians elsewhere- Viktor Yushchenko in Ukraine, for example.

Is Cuba really sophisticated enough to develop a weapon that baffles American scientists? What would be their reason?

Means and motive, dude.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:52 pm

This may be the first time Symmetry was right about something.

https://www.voanews.com/a/no-evidence-of-sonic-attacks-cuba-senator-says/4196706.html

Also, I was talking to somebody who works for the CRA (Canada's IRS). Apparently all the programmers there are Russian. From now on, I'm not paying taxes since I don't want to be supporting Putin.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:07 pm

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Postby Dukasaur on Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:54 am

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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:26 pm

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-recalls-families-of-diplomats-in-cuba-in-response-to/

The families of Canadian diplomats serving in Cuba are being recalled as a response to mysterious incidents which have plagued some staff and dependents.

The move comes after 10 Canadians continue to show unexplained brain symptoms, officials say.

That number includes an unknown number of children and nondiplomat family members, but government officials are giving no further breakdown, citing privacy concerns.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:45 pm

It's really a bizarre situation. My suspicion is still that Russia did it. After the weird nerve agent attack in the UK, can anyone really say that Russia wouldn't do something like that?

I mean, seriously, a brief history of Russian attacks will give you an idea of how they operate- chemical weapons- check; radioactive materials- check; nerve agents-check.

Does anyone think that there's a weapon they wouldn't use if they thought it was plausibly deniable?

So far the only other theories that might make sense are:
1) Some sort of malfunction in surveillance devices by Cuba (doesn't make scientific sense)
2) Mass hysteria
3) Some kind of weird new bacterial/viral infection

If it's a sonic weapon, as the US claims, I'm inclined to see Russia as the main suspect. The other three possibilities make less sense.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Symmetry wrote: After the weird nerve agent attack in the UK, can anyone really say that Russia wouldn't do something like that?


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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:11 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote: After the weird nerve agent attack in the UK, can anyone really say that Russia wouldn't do something like that?


hi


I'm guessing that means that you don't thing Russia was responsible? Let me guess- MI5/6/7/ CIA/ Mossad? PM me your current conspiracy theory.
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Postby nietzsche on Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:14 pm

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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote: After the weird nerve agent attack in the UK, can anyone really say that Russia wouldn't do something like that?


hi


I'm guessing that means that you don't thing Russia was responsible? Let me guess- MI5/6/7/ CIA/ Mossad? PM me your current conspiracy theory.


I don't have any theory. All I know is that I don't blame Russia. Either they didn't do it or they did do it but had good cause.

It's like when I refused to get on the Burma Aung Express and, within 12 months of gaining power, there are calls to indict her for war crimes. Wherever my judgement is coming from it's not been wrong yet. Not sure why I'd change course.
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Postby nietzsche on Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:34 pm

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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:14 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote: After the weird nerve agent attack in the UK, can anyone really say that Russia wouldn't do something like that?


hi


I'm guessing that means that you don't thing Russia was responsible? Let me guess- MI5/6/7/ CIA/ Mossad? PM me your current conspiracy theory.


I don't have any theory. All I know is that I don't blame Russia. Either they didn't do it or they did do it but had good cause.


Urgh- the "they didn't do it, but if they did, they were right to do it" reply of the truly brainwashed.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby nietzsche on Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:21 pm

they have a compromising video of saxi, Symmetry.

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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:09 am

Lol, the weirdest thing about the pee tape idea is that some people genuinely don't think that Trump would ever pay prostitutes to urinate on a bed that President Obama once slept in and then lie about about it because it would compromise his relationship with Russia.

Is there really any part of that that really seems implausible at this point? The Donald is on the hook for banging a porn star while his wife was recuperating from giving birth to his son. Another woman, a Playboy model, plausibly claims that he tried to pay her after sex.

He lies pretty much every day-

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

His relationship with Russia already compromised security- he literally gave away secure intelligence from Israel to Russia'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-israel-intelligence-share-isis-mossad-spies-sergei-lavrov-kislyak-us-a8071086.html
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby mrswdk on Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:15 am

To be fair, while his wife is recuperating from childbirth does seem like the most fitting point at which to go see a hooker.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:27 am

mrswdk wrote:To be fair, while his wife is recuperating from childbirth does seem like the most fitting point at which to go see a hooker.


Is it weird that I have to point out that the women are a porn star and a Playboy model, and not hookers? It seems weird to have to be pedantic about the President of the United States on this.

He did treat them as if they were prostitutes though. though, probably.
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby mrswdk on Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:30 am

He did pay her $130k afterwards.

Also, does being paid to have sex really cease to be prostitution just because the person paying you has a camera with them?
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Re: SciFi James Bond Conspiracy in Cuban embassies

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:38 am

mrswdk wrote:He did pay her $130k afterwards.


Did he though? If he did, he's kinda screwed (pun intended). If he didn't, his consigliere is screwed.
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