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Re: DACA

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:19 pm

Least your impartial.
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Re: DACA

Postby karel on Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:35 pm

so sat down after few beers smoked a bowl or 2,came up with this if they want to be citizens of the usa then serve 4 years in the armed forces or some form of coast guard or national guard,for 4 years then you and wife/kids become citizens,if not get the f*ck out then...problem solved
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:49 am

What the Supreme Court ruling means for DACA and almost 700,000 undocumented immigrants

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/26/what-supreme-court-ruling-means-daca-and-almost-700-000-undocumented-immigrants/372704002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomwashington-topstories

With two brief sentences, the Supreme Court on Monday dramatically changed the debate over the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program and the fate of nearly 700,000 undocumented immigrants who are part of it.

The uncertainty hovering over the program had left DACA enrollees terrified over their future and left Congress so conflicted that DACA negotiations contributed to a three-day government shutdown last month.

By refusing to hear a California case, the high court ensured that DACA will survive at least through the fall, giving DACA enrollees a temporary reprieve from deportation and Congress more time to craft a permanent solution for them.

"This temporary decision is, nonetheless, a great legal victory on behalf of the DACA recipients, who have been hanging by a thread, wondering if their permits would expire in a week," said Ben Monterroso, executive director of Mi Familia Vota, a group that recruits Hispanics to register to vote.

MORE info at this URL…..JP
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Re: DACA

Postby Neoteny on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:02 pm

It's a good thing we got a promise from Mitch "Turtle" McConnell for a vote on dreamers. It has done us well so far.
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Re: DACA

Postby karel on Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:46 pm

daca will fail do to the dems
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Re: DACA

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:53 pm

karel wrote:daca will fail do to the dems


Why blame democrats?
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:52 pm

There is enough blame to go around ALL of Congress.

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Bernie Sanders wrote:
karel wrote:daca will fail do to the dems


Why blame democrats?
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Re: DACA

Postby karel on Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:26 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:There is enough blame to go around ALL of Congress.

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karel wrote:daca will fail do to the dems


Why blame democrats?

they had a chance 2 times to put daca on the table,but failed to do that
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Re: DACA

Postby HitRed on Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:28 pm

DACA people are a feisty bunch. They know that Trump just wants $$$ and the Dems just want to grandstand. Give it to him and change 1.8 million lives forever!
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:19 pm

It was reported that there was NO action on DACA on the recently passed Budget Bill, as was threatened earlier.

JP

karel wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:There is enough blame to go around ALL of Congress.

JP

Bernie Sanders wrote:
karel wrote:daca will fail do to the dems


Why blame democrats?

they had a chance 2 times to put daca on the table,but failed to do that
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:29 am

There is more from both articles at the links provided. BTW: Interesting spin for both new organizations.

JP

Trump's ignorance about DACA is stunning

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/opinions/trumps-ignorance-about-daca-is-stunning-reyes/index.html

For starters, it makes absolutely no logical sense that the President would make a big deal of announcing "NO MORE DACA DEAL"-- in all caps, as though he were taking some bold new stance. Let's recall, he was the one who ended DACA, the program that allowed roughly 800,000 young people brought here illegally as children, known as the Dreamers, to live and work openly.

The President unilaterally began the unwinding of this program in September, with no plan to replace it, and since then has rejected several bipartisan proposals that would have provided a legislative fix for the plight of the Dreamers. It is nonsensical for Trump to be vowing that there will be "no more deal" when there is not now and never has been any realistic chance of a DACA deal.

Trump calls on Republicans to use 'nuclear option' for border legislation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/02/trump-calls-on-republicans-to-use-nuclear-option-for-border-legislation.html

President Trump on Monday once again hammered lawmakers over immigration, demanding Congress pass stronger border legislation and imploring Republicans to use the “Nuclear Option if necessary.”
Trump has previously called for the “nuclear option” – which would require the Senate to change rules to end the filibuster. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has dismissed the option in the past, saying Republicans will welcome the filibuster when they return to being the Senate minority.
On Monday, Trump tweeted that the U.S. must build a border wall, but argued that "Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!" He also said that a deal to help "Dreamer" immigrants is "dead because the Democrats didn't care or act."
DACA is dead because the Democrats didn’t care or act, and now everyone wants to get onto the DACA bandwagon... No longer works. Must build Wall and secure our borders with proper Border legislation. Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 2, 2018
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:51 am

where are we now with Immigration to the USA?

THE WALL..! The WALL...!

jusplay4fun wrote:There is more from both articles at the links provided. BTW: Interesting spin for both new organizations.

JP

Trump's ignorance about DACA is stunning

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/opinions/trumps-ignorance-about-daca-is-stunning-reyes/index.html

For starters, it makes absolutely no logical sense that the President would make a big deal of announcing "NO MORE DACA DEAL"-- in all caps, as though he were taking some bold new stance. Let's recall, he was the one who ended DACA, the program that allowed roughly 800,000 young people brought here illegally as children, known as the Dreamers, to live and work openly.

The President unilaterally began the unwinding of this program in September, with no plan to replace it, and since then has rejected several bipartisan proposals that would have provided a legislative fix for the plight of the Dreamers. It is nonsensical for Trump to be vowing that there will be "no more deal" when there is not now and never has been any realistic chance of a DACA deal.

Trump calls on Republicans to use 'nuclear option' for border legislation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/02/trump-calls-on-republicans-to-use-nuclear-option-for-border-legislation.html

President Trump on Monday once again hammered lawmakers over immigration, demanding Congress pass stronger border legislation and imploring Republicans to use the “Nuclear Option if necessary.”
Trump has previously called for the “nuclear option” – which would require the Senate to change rules to end the filibuster. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has dismissed the option in the past, saying Republicans will welcome the filibuster when they return to being the Senate minority.
On Monday, Trump tweeted that the U.S. must build a border wall, but argued that "Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!" He also said that a deal to help "Dreamer" immigrants is "dead because the Democrats didn't care or act."
DACA is dead because the Democrats didn’t care or act, and now everyone wants to get onto the DACA bandwagon... No longer works. Must build Wall and secure our borders with proper Border legislation. Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 2, 2018
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Re: DACA

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:44 pm

Where are we NOW with Immigration reform? Nowhere.

And DACA? See Below:

Nov. 12, 2019, 1:18 PM EST / Updated Nov. 12, 2019, 4:14 PM EST
By Pete Williams

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-appears-inclined-let-trump-end-daca-program-n1080796

WASHINGTON — A bare majority of the U.S. Supreme Court appeared likely Tuesday to let the Trump administration follow through on its plan to shut down DACA, the federal program that has allowed nearly 800,000 young people, known as "dreamers," to avoid deportation and remain in the U.S.

With hundreds of DACA supporters rallying outside — so many that police shut down the street in front of the Supreme Court — the justices heard nearly an hour and a half of oral arguments. Based on their questions, it appeared that the court's five conservatives were inclined to rule that the Department of Homeland Security acted properly when it ordered the program ended in 2017 and that the federal courts cannot second-guess that decision.

While Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh appeared likely to say DACA was properly shut down, Chief Justice John Roberts did not seem to be as strongly convinced. Roberts may be the deciding vote, just as he was last term when the court blocked the Trump administration from adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census form. He concluded in that case that the government had not given an adequate explanation for its proposed action.

Lower court rulings have kept DACA going, allowing young people in the program to reapply every two years to remain under its protection. Children of undocumented immigrants can remain here if they were under 16 when their parents brought them to the U.S. and if they arrived by 2007.

Arguing for DACA's defenders, lawyer Ted Olson said federal law requires the government to give a detailed explanation before taking an action that affects hundreds of thousands of people and the businesses that employ them.



jusplay4fun wrote:where are we now with Immigration to the USA?

THE WALL..! The WALL...!

jusplay4fun wrote:There is more from both articles at the links provided. BTW: Interesting spin for both new organizations.

JP

Trump's ignorance about DACA is stunning

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/opinions/trumps-ignorance-about-daca-is-stunning-reyes/index.html

For starters, it makes absolutely no logical sense that the President would make a big deal of announcing "NO MORE DACA DEAL"-- in all caps, as though he were taking some bold new stance. Let's recall, he was the one who ended DACA, the program that allowed roughly 800,000 young people brought here illegally as children, known as the Dreamers, to live and work openly.

The President unilaterally began the unwinding of this program in September, with no plan to replace it, and since then has rejected several bipartisan proposals that would have provided a legislative fix for the plight of the Dreamers. It is nonsensical for Trump to be vowing that there will be "no more deal" when there is not now and never has been any realistic chance of a DACA deal.

Trump calls on Republicans to use 'nuclear option' for border legislation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/02/trump-calls-on-republicans-to-use-nuclear-option-for-border-legislation.html

President Trump on Monday once again hammered lawmakers over immigration, demanding Congress pass stronger border legislation and imploring Republicans to use the “Nuclear Option if necessary.”
Trump has previously called for the “nuclear option” – which would require the Senate to change rules to end the filibuster. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has dismissed the option in the past, saying Republicans will welcome the filibuster when they return to being the Senate minority.
On Monday, Trump tweeted that the U.S. must build a border wall, but argued that "Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!" He also said that a deal to help "Dreamer" immigrants is "dead because the Democrats didn't care or act."
DACA is dead because the Democrats didn’t care or act, and now everyone wants to get onto the DACA bandwagon... No longer works. Must build Wall and secure our borders with proper Border legislation. Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 2, 2018
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Re: DACA

Postby karel on Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:52 pm

i don't even care about any of this shit,they all need to go back period,have no pitty for them
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Re: DACA

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:00 pm

karel wrote:i don't even care about any of this shit,they all need to go back period,have no pitty for them


We're not surprised.

Most people, on the other hand, do have at least a passing concern for the fate of others.
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Re: DACA

Postby spurgistan on Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:40 am

HitRed wrote:DACA people are a feisty bunch. They know that Trump just wants $$$ and the Dems just want to grandstand. Give it to him and change 1.8 million lives forever!


Extortion always works, right?
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Re: DACA

Postby jimboston on Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:05 am

Immigration Happens
(It has happened throughout history, and can be managed ignored peaceful or violent... it’s gonna happen.)

People are People

Please explain to me how we can reasonably and legally remove 5 million illegal immigrants?
-> Any ‘solution’ would involve further erosion of everyone’s civil rights, and the implementation of a police state.

Please explain to me who will do the jobs that are currently being performed by illegal immigrants.
-> Yes... I would love to do away with welfare and tell those on welfare to pick up those jobs... but it ain’t gonna happen en masse and crops will rot in the field.

That’s all.

We need to find a reasonable solution that involves legal immigration registration... there is a solution, but people on both sides only talk around each other and not to each other.
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