Hillary Clinton- best failed presidential candidate?

[saxitoxin]

Please calm down and stop hyperventilating; we know you believe the guv'mint covered-up the Roswell aliens, biologists have Bigfoot in a lab in Oregon, and Russian cyborg super-spies hacked the election. But the grown-ups would like to have a talk now.

Thank you!

[saxitoxin]

[saxitoxin]

The scandal deepens ... today Donna Brazile testified that, at the height of the 2016 presidential campaign, she considered invoking her emergency powers as chairwoman of the Democratic Party to declare Hillary Clinton disabled and replace her with Joe Biden as nominee.

WASHINGTON — Joe Biden would have been the Democratic nominee for president last year instead of Hillary Clinton if Donna Brazile followed her instincts.

Brazile, the former interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, says in an upcoming memoir that she seriously considered using her powers as the head of the party to remove Clinton from atop the 2016 presidential ticket, according to The Washington Post.

The DNC’s charter allows the party’s chair to oversee the process of filling a vacancy if a nominee becomes disabled.

Brazile says she thought a Biden-Booker ticket stood the best chance of winning over working-class voters and defeating Republican Donald Trump.

In the end, though, Brazile couldn’t bring herself to give Clinton the boot, even though she thought Clinton was a sincere but flawed candidate whose campaign reeked with “the odor of failure.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 832587001/

Is a woman whose own party chair seriously considered declaring her mentally disabled and thought her campaign "reeked with the odor of failure" a better "failed presidential candidate" than Bobby Kennedy or Adlai Stevenson?

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Is a woman whose own party chair seriously considered declaring her mentally disabled and thought her campaign "reeked with the odor of failure" a better "failed presidential candidate" than Bobby Kennedy or Adlai Stevenson?

I don't really know much about this Brazille, apart from the fact that you keep accusing me of lying about her, but I'm guessing she's selling something.

Clinton seems far more damaging to the GOP than Kennedy or Stevenson to me, but that's solely as a failed presidential candidate. As more and more Trump aides prove to have colluded, or attempted to collude with foreign powers hostile to the US, it seems increasingly weird that Trump is pressuring the Justice Department to prosecute Clinton.

Especially when Trump's own Attorney General is increasingly in the spotlight for (let's be nice) misleading Congress.

Saxi- I realise we're on opposite sides of this argument, and that this a leading question, but do you really trust your president to pick the right people to run your country? After all these scandals and indictments, with more likely forthcoming?

[saxitoxin]

Is a woman whose own party chair seriously considered declaring her mentally disabled and thought her campaign "reeked with the odor of failure" a better "failed presidential candidate" than Bobby Kennedy or Adlai Stevenson?

I don't really know much about this Brazille

She was the first African-American woman and the first lesbian to head a major presidential campaign (Al Gore 2000), is the most recent past chairwoman of the Democratic Party, and is a former commentator for CNN.

You should really attempt to be more aware of the world around you.

I realize she's not a straight, white man but LGBTIQ women of color can have accomplishments too; you do realize that, right?

[saxitoxin]

BREAKING NEWS!

Senator Elizabeth Warren has just confirmed Donna Brazile's account of official corruption in the Clinton presidential campaign -

https://boingboing.net/2017/11/03/everybody-knows.html

This scandal appears to be occupying all headlines -

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Is a woman whose own party chair seriously considered declaring her mentally disabled and thought her campaign "reeked with the odor of failure" a better "failed presidential candidate" than Bobby Kennedy or Adlai Stevenson?

I don't really know much about this Brazille

She was the first African-American woman and the first lesbian to head a major presidential campaign (Al Gore 2000), is the most recent past chairwoman of the Democratic Party, and is a former commentator for CNN.

You should really attempt to be more aware of the world around you.

I realize she's not a straight, white man but LGBTIQ women of color can have accomplishments too; you do realize that, right?

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

How come you edited out my question? It's like you're avoiding it.

[saxitoxin]

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

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You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Lol- I think we've already covered that.

Seriously though- You've been a Trump supporter, but I never thought you a die-hard Trumpist. His hiring policy must be raising some issues for you, no?

[karel]

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Lol- I think we've already covered that.

Seriously though- You've been a Trump supporter, but I never thought you a die-hard Trumpist. His hiring policy must be raising some issues for you, no?

hence why trump has lowest unemp[loyment in 18 yrs,oooooooo thats called jobs,jobs people..get ober it you kunt lost even after rigging it,and lord trump is your prez get the f9ck over it

[Dukasaur]

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Lol- I think we've already covered that.

Seriously though- You've been a Trump supporter, but I never thought you a die-hard Trumpist. His hiring policy must be raising some issues for you, no?

hence why trump has lowest unemp[loyment in 18 yrs,oooooooo thats called jobs,jobs people..get ober it you kunt lost even after rigging it,and lord trump is your prez get the f9ck over it

U.S. unemployment rate has been going down steadily since 2010. Trump has nothing to do with it.

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hence why trump has lowest unemp[loyment in 18 yrs,oooooooo thats called jobs,jobs people..get ober it you kunt lost even after rigging it,and lord trump is your prez get the f9ck over it

karel, you most come across as the kind of racist delusional lunatic that even the Ku Klux Klan would kick out for being too dumb to capitalise their own name, but that post has to be a new low, even for you.

Trump being president isn't the be and end all of opposition to him. Get over it kid.

[saxitoxin]

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Lol- I think we've already covered that.

Seriously though- You've been a Trump supporter, but I never thought you a die-hard Trumpist. His hiring policy must be raising some issues for you, no?

hence why trump has lowest unemp[loyment in 18 yrs,oooooooo thats called jobs,jobs people..get ober it you kunt lost even after rigging it,and lord trump is your prez get the f9ck over it

U.S. unemployment rate has been going down steadily since 2010.

oh, interesting

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Saxitoxin- You ARE avoiding me! How interesting. It's no problem. I'll leave off the issue. Repeating it after this is just silly-

Saxi- I realise we're on opposite sides of this argument, and that this a leading question, but do you really trust your president to pick the right people to run your country? After all these scandals and indictments, with more likely forthcoming?

[saxitoxin]

Saxitoxin- You ARE avoiding me! How interesting. It's no problem. I'll leave off the issue. Repeating it after this is just silly-

... do you really trust your president to pick the right people to run your country? After all these scandals and indictments, with more likely forthcoming?

Your question is a sophistry. No presidential appointee has been indicted for anything at all.

You must be thinking about the ongoing congressional inquiry into possible unmasking crimes committed by Obama-era officials. I trust President Trump's Congress will make an ultimate determination, and send names to President Trump's courts for prosecution and imprisonment, in due course.

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Symmetry's just like Sean Spicer - making claims without offering proof.

[karel]

no not really,the problem is snowflakes cant handle the truth

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Saxitoxin- You ARE avoiding me! How interesting. It's no problem. I'll leave off the issue. Repeating it after this is just silly-

... do you really trust your president to pick the right people to run your country? After all these scandals and indictments, with more likely forthcoming?

Your question is a sophistry. No presidential appointee has been indicted for anything at all.

You must be thinking about the ongoing congressional inquiry into possible unmasking crimes committed by Obama-era officials. I trust President Trump's Congress will make an ultimate determination, and send names to President Trump's courts for prosecution and imprisonment, in due course.

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Symmetry's just like Sean Spicer - making claims without offering proof.

Do you trust Trump's ability to select people to run the US?

No, btw, not all gay people know each other.

[saxitoxin]

Saxitoxin- You ARE avoiding me! How interesting. It's no problem. I'll leave off the issue. Repeating it after this is just silly-

... do you really trust your president to pick the right people to run your country? After all these scandals and indictments, with more likely forthcoming?

Your question is a sophistry. No presidential appointee has been indicted for anything at all.

You must be thinking about the ongoing congressional inquiry into possible unmasking crimes committed by Obama-era officials. I trust President Trump's Congress will make an ultimate determination, and send names to President Trump's courts for prosecution and imprisonment, in due course.

You do know that gay people don't all know each other, right?

prove it

Symmetry's just like Sean Spicer - making claims without offering proof.

Do you trust Trump's ability to select people to run the US?

Trump runs the U.S.

I believe he's chosen many good deputies like Steve Censky, Tom Shannon, and Robert Lighthizer.

This, of course, is in sharp contrast to Obama-era appointees, such as Colleen Bell who - under Obama - went from executive-producer of daytime soap opera The Bold and the Beautiful to running U.S. foreign policy in central Europe as Ambassador to Hungary.

No, btw, not all gay people know each other.

Proof?

[riskllama]

what about his choices for education, energy and the EPA? laughable...

[saxitoxin]

what about his choices for education, energy and the EPA? laughable...

nice dodge

[riskllama]

says the guy who nearly completed my sig, but instead made a stoopid subway related one, instead. f*ck off, your potus and his appointees are a joke.

[mookiemcgee]

Another picture of Boehner crying?

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Hmm, seems like after the elections this week "pillory Hillary" tactics, and Trumpism in general haven't been quite as convincing to the voting public as one might think.

Whoduthunk? To be fair to Saxi and the other cheerleaders here- it seems to have surprised Democrats too.

[mrswdk]

When Democrats are surprised to merely hold on to a state they won the previous time, you know they're DOA.

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When Democrats are surprised to merely hold on to a state they won the previous time, you know they're DOA.

Not really. Who did you think would win?