Conquer Club

Words that mean the opposite

\\OFF-TOPIC// conversations about everything that has nothing to do with Conquer Club.

Moderator: Community Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Words that mean the opposite

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:17 pm

Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.
░▒▒▓▓▓▒▒░
User avatar
Captain DoomYoshi
 
Posts: 10715
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 pm
Location: Niu York, Ukraine

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Thorthoth on Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:52 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.

A 'pre-made' espresso would be just as fast.
I recommend making a whole pot of drip coffee and keeping it in the refrigerator. It stays perfectly fresh for several days. Just reheat it in the microwave.
THORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTH
Click image to enlarge.
image
User avatar
Corporal Thorthoth
 
Posts: 3273
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Location: My pyramid in Asgard, beside the glaciated Nile.

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby tzor on Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:57 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.


Uh no. Wrong. The actual meaning is "pressed out" and the coffee part is assumed. The correct term is "caffè espresso."

Perhaps you are confusing the term presto?
Image
User avatar
Cadet tzor
 
Posts: 4076
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm
Location: Long Island, NY, USA

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:02 pm

"Very funny" means extremely humorous, and yet it's used as the title for emails that are deathly dull and utterly devoid of humour.
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
― Voltaire
User avatar
Lieutenant Dukasaur
Community Coordinator
Community Coordinator
 
Posts: 27029
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 pm
Location: Beautiful Niagara
32

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Ltrain on Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:30 pm

resign
Image
User avatar
Major Ltrain
 
Posts: 501
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:16 pm
Location: NC

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:39 pm

tzor wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.


Uh no. Wrong. The actual meaning is "pressed out" and the coffee part is assumed. The correct term is "caffè espresso."

Perhaps you are confusing the term presto?


From Wikipedia:
Although some Anglo-American dictionaries simply refer to "pressed-out",[18] "espresso," much like the English word "express", conveys the senses of "just for you" and "quickly," which can be related to the method of espresso preparation.

The words express, expres and espresso each have several meanings in English, French and Italian. The first meaning is to do with the idea of "expressing" or squeezing the flavour from the coffee using the pressure of the steam. The second meaning is to do with speed, as in a train. Finally there is the notion of doing something "expressly" for a person ... The first Bezzera and Pavoni espresso machines in 1906 took 45 seconds to make a cup of coffee, one at a time, expressly for you.[19]

Another source, the Online Etymology Dictionary, favors the "pressed out" explanation: "coffee made under steam pressure, 1945, from Italian (caffe) espresso, from espresso 'pressed out,' past participle of esprimere, from Latin exprimere 'press out, squeeze out' ... [, i]n reference to the steam pressure."[20]

Modern espresso, using hot water under pressure, as pioneered by Gaggia in the 1940s, was originally called crema caffè, in English "cream coffee", as can be seen on old Gaggia machines, due to the crema.[21] This term is no longer used, though crema caffè and variants (caffè crema, café crema) find occasional use in branding.
░▒▒▓▓▓▒▒░
User avatar
Captain DoomYoshi
 
Posts: 10715
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 pm
Location: Niu York, Ukraine

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby mizery24 on Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:59 pm

Fishing- drinking beer not catching fish.

Parkway- something you drive on

Driveway- something you park on



By the way, coffee makes me fart, how bout you?
User avatar
Corporal mizery24
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:04 am
Location: NC

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:36 am

raised/razed
flammable/inflammable
instagram.com/garethjohnjoneswrites
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class jonesthecurl
 
Posts: 4449
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 am
Location: disused action figure warehouse

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Thorthoth on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:14 pm

Yes Jones, the subject of contranyms is a most serious one.

Are these terms mere linguistic quirks or are they the harbingers of communicative disintegration?

Wikipedia's list needs some reorganization but it is a very good list to start with.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... contranyms
THORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTH
Click image to enlarge.
image
User avatar
Corporal Thorthoth
 
Posts: 3273
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Location: My pyramid in Asgard, beside the glaciated Nile.

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:48 pm

Thorthoth wrote:Yes Jones, the subject of contranyms is a most serious one.

Are these terms mere linguistic quirks or are they the harbingers of communicative disintegration?

Wikipedia's list needs some reorganization but it is a very good list to start with.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... contranyms


I don't think this qualifies:
oral/aural
pertaining to speech / pertaining to hearing

People only speak to be heard. Oral and Aural should be treated as symbionyms, not contranyms.
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
― Voltaire
User avatar
Lieutenant Dukasaur
Community Coordinator
Community Coordinator
 
Posts: 27029
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 pm
Location: Beautiful Niagara
32

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby waauw on Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:28 pm

logic of the english language:

Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.
User avatar
Lieutenant waauw
 
Posts: 4756
Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:46 pm

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Thorthoth on Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:41 pm

waauw wrote:logic of the english language:

Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.

That case isn't a contranym. You're get the prefixes 'in/im' and 'un' confused.
THORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTH
Click image to enlarge.
image
User avatar
Corporal Thorthoth
 
Posts: 3273
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Location: My pyramid in Asgard, beside the glaciated Nile.

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby waauw on Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:01 pm

Thorthoth wrote:
waauw wrote:logic of the english language:

Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.

That case isn't a contranym. You're get the prefixes 'in/im' and 'un' confused.


No, it's not a contranym, which is exactly my point. And 'in/im' has the same meaning as 'un'.
User avatar
Lieutenant waauw
 
Posts: 4756
Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:46 pm

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:40 pm

Impossible.
instagram.com/garethjohnjoneswrites
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class jonesthecurl
 
Posts: 4449
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 am
Location: disused action figure warehouse

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:01 pm

There are plenty that I like that changed meanings-

"Dreadful"- used to mean inspired "dread", now means almost the opposite- something terrible which leads me to...
"Terrible"- used to mean inspiring terror, now just means something bad.

Some phrases have come to mean the same thing- "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" mean the same thing, for example.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:30 pm

Image
░▒▒▓▓▓▒▒░
User avatar
Captain DoomYoshi
 
Posts: 10715
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 pm
Location: Niu York, Ukraine

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:36 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Image



"I really hate" when the phrase means that he doesn't?
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:40 pm

I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Thorthoth on Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:52 pm

Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

I f you really like ambiguity, then shut up before you start whining about your lates hurtful/hateful/iun-PC issue, you dorksucker.
You're probably just misinterpreting it. In fact, it might even ambiguously mean the exact opposite of what you think it does.
Clearly many secondary contranymic definitions started out as sarcasm.
THORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTHORTHOTH
Click image to enlarge.
image
User avatar
Corporal Thorthoth
 
Posts: 3273
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Location: My pyramid in Asgard, beside the glaciated Nile.

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:17 am

Thorthoth wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

I f you really like ambiguity, then shut up before you start whining about your lates hurtful/hateful/iun-PC issue, you dorksucker.
You're probably just misinterpreting it. In fact, it might even ambiguously mean the exact opposite of what you think it does.
Clearly many secondary contranymic definitions started out as sarcasm.


Nice try.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:08 am

Can we ever come to an agreement that Wikipedia is a poor source for information?

Cool.
Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.

Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.

ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class DirtyDishSoap
 
Posts: 8735
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:42 pm

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:31 am

"Virtual" used to mean "real". Now it means "not real".
"Nice" used to mean "thin".
"Sophisticated" used to mean "pretentious".
instagram.com/garethjohnjoneswrites
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class jonesthecurl
 
Posts: 4449
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 am
Location: disused action figure warehouse

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:35 pm

Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.


:lol:

You are an idiot. But the joke is good...:)
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
― Voltaire
User avatar
Lieutenant Dukasaur
Community Coordinator
Community Coordinator
 
Posts: 27029
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 pm
Location: Beautiful Niagara
32

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:41 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:Can we ever come to an agreement that Wikipedia is a poor source for information?

Cool.


It is what it is- an encyclopedia. A great source of information if you want to skim a subject. For anything controversial it's poor as a rule. Treat it as unreliable, is my general rule, and always look at the sources.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Words that mean the opposite

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:44 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.


:lol:

You are an idiot. But the joke is good...:)


Admit it- you like her.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Next

Return to Practical Explanation about Next Life,

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: pmac666