ConfederateSS wrote:------Manstein was tried in 1949....For "Scorched Earth Tactics"...as his crime against humanity...Even though that tactic has been used through the ages...Hell,the USA did it to the Vietnamese 20 years later...
Perhaps I should have reworded the charges and guilt verdict initially. Despite that, it is still a slap to the tip of the dick to allow this piece of filth to practically walk scot free for the deaths of thousands of individuals, ranging from civilians and the Jewish people.
Explain this if you still think he was some great humanitarian:
Jewish Bolshevik system must be wiped out once and for all and should never again be allowed to invade our European living space ... It is the same Jewish class of beings who have done so much damage to our own Fatherland by virtue of their activities against the nation and civilization, and who promote anti-German tendencies throughout the world, and who will be the harbingers of revenge. Their extermination is a dictate of our own survival
Here's another piece of wonderful literature.
Erich von Manstein made the entirely false claim that he did not enforce the Commissar Order, and made no mention of his own considerable role in the Holocaust, such as sending 2,000 of his soldiers to help the SS massacre 11,000 Jews in Simferopol in November 1941. Verlorene Siege was much acclaimed and a best-seller when it was published in the 1950s. The favourable portrait Erich von Manstein drew of himself in Verlorene Siege continues to influence the popular picture of him to this day. In 1998, Jürgen Förster, a German historian, wrote that for too long most people have accepted at face value the self-serving claims made by generals like Erich von Manstein and Siegfried Westphal who promoted the idea of the Wehrmacht in their memoirs as a highly professional, apolitical force who were victims of Adolf Hitler rather than his followers, which served to distort the subject of Wehrmacht war crimes. Berghahn wrote in 2004 that Erich von Manstein's memoirs were totally unreliable, and if more had been known about Erich von Manstein's war crimes in the 1940s, he might had been hanged.
http://www.leaders-reich.co.uk/2015/03/erich-von-manstein.htmlTL/DR: He was a piece of shit.
ConfederateSS wrote:------He was NATO's head strategist against The Soviet led Warsaw Pact...A Top leader of NATO...
------What he knew or didn't know...He was Fighting for THE GERMAN EMPIRE in World War 2,not Hitler's Empire...Manstein was Prussian,Hitler hated the Prussians because he grew up poor...and Vice versa...
He was made an advisor for Germany and helped Germany enter into NATO. Hardly a head strategist, nor was he even a top leader.
Manstein, again, didn't hate Hitler for being Prussian or vice versa. It was purely for strategic reasons and how to win the war. Where are your sources? Quit pulling these things out of your ass you shit bag.
ConfederateSS wrote:------------Zhukov fought Manstein ,came to his defense,the Russians hated the Germans for centuries,not just because of WW2....Zhukov's defense of Manstein has MERIT...
Source? Because I can't find any mention of Zhukov coming to his defense. And why would he? The Russians wanted to try him in their own country, which he would have been undoubtedly shot and killed, and rightfully so.
ConfederateSS wrote:------Esienhower knew in 1944 what was happening in Europe...Came to Manstein's defense...Again..MERIT OF A GENERAL AND PRESIDENT...Who fought The Germans...
I'm beginning to see a pattern here. This is a political game, and the west won a key figure to establish Germany into NATO. Well done, I guess, for excusing a piece of garbage.
Still, no mention of Eisenhower coming to Mansteins defense.
ConfederateSS wrote:------Churchill not only came to Manstein's defense.....He paid for it...That's Right...THE LEADER OF ENGLAND ,WHO FOUGHT THE GERMANS FROM THE BEGINNING ,STOOD UP FOR MANSTEIN...MERIT...Just because Manstein viewed people who were not Prussian,in a different light...Doesn't make him a nazi,he was a snob...Like any other rich person...Or member of Royalty or a member of aristocracy...
I see where the confusion is coming from, you think that submitting a couple dollars to show support is coming to someone's defense in trail. Sorry, but no. it's becoming rather clear at this point that Manstein was a tool to be used, nothing more.
No idea why you keep sticking with this Prussian argument, but you do you.
ConfederateSS wrote:------Yes he did do his time and was let out early...Time served...IF THE ISRAEL GOVERNMENT THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY OF CRIMES AGAINST THE ISRAELI PEOPLE...DON'T YOU THINK THEY WOULD HAVE HAD HIM BROUGHT TO ISRAEL TO STAND TRAIL,OR HAD THE MOSSAD TAKE HIM OUT...INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM LIVE OUT HIS LIFE AS A CHANGED MEMBER OF SOCIETY...WHO IN THE END,USED HIS STRATEGIC TALENTS TO FIGHT STALIN AND THE WARSAW PACT ONE LAST TIME...FOR DEMOCRACY...
News flash: Israel didn't exist as a corporeal government until around 1947/1948, and with the trial taking a following year afterwards in 1949, they didn't exactly have a say in it being a new established government and all. Even then, we put them smack dap in the Middle East, where they are universally hated by Muslims. Great location. Had they existed well before their initial establishment and trial, they would have weighed heavily in on it, and chances are, he would have been hanged. Either you're woefully ignorant, or you have a single digit IQ.
Already talked about NATO, he wasn't a leader of any sort.
Good news is, they did capture a Nazi war criminal.
In the early 1960s, Israel captured Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Argentina and brought him to Israel for trial. The trial had a major impact on public awareness of the Holocaust. Eichmann remains the only person executed in Israel by conviction in an Israeli civilian court.
ConfederateSS wrote:------Maybe if you could see the Forest before the Trees,you would get rid of your tunnel vision...Courts back then were full of qualified people to judge...Not the blind tunnel vision liberals of today...Who try and shit on everyone,and everything...TO SUIT THEIR MISGUIDED VIEWS,AND FORCE THEM ON OTHERS...
As they try and erase and rewrite history to serve their foolish P.C. Agenda......
FAKE NEWS ...No one cares about what you liberals have to say any more ......
ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Gee, words of "wisdom" coming from a die hard confederate that is from a bygone era that should stay dead and buried. How are the liberals destroying your everyday life, and how exactly are your views (like supporting a Nazi.
), not misguided? The funniest thing about this is, despite you believing that those damn liberals are forcing their views on you, here you are with this piece of garbage saying we should commemorate this dirt ball of a human being, where there numerous versions existing today that say Manstein wholly knew about the massacres and going so far as dedicating a portion of his troops in the extermination of the Jewish people.
Perhaps it's not me suffering tunnel vision. I'm not existing in some pre-civil war era, stroking a wooden penis of General Lee and hoping the South rises again to do...Nothing.
Whatever your version of paradise is, I'm sure it's full of the same old bigotry skin head white trailer trash bullshit that every other neo Nazi dreams of. I'm no fan of the left, or even the right, I'd like to think I'm in the middle, but you're an extreme of idiotic that can't be measured by any existing party.
You're a piece of shit, and I can only hope that tomorrow morning when you attempt to try and tie your shoe laces, you trip and fall and hit your empty head on a sharp object, so it deflates the air that's trapped and your head whistles away like a balloon that's finally free.