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karel wrote:im shocked that the prissy little snowflake have not made a thread about this and saying its all about gun control,lmfao
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:but leftists still need guns to use to protect against cops and other fascists types;
Neoteny wrote:What mush-brained gobshit would come to this forum looking for left-wing views. Five years ago, I could expect some backup and not have to respond to a dozen different neckbeards by myself about the president's veiny-ass forehead, but nowadays this forum is about 40% actual fascists, 5% insufferable Russiagate Hillarydems, 25% semi-earnest neocons, 25% lulztrolls (that number has probably always hung around there), and 5% unreadable gibberish (see previous poster). You won't find much left wing thought from that salad.
I'm torn between a few competing threads: I recognize that eliminating handguns in particular, but eventually all guns will go a long way toward eliminating the massive number of gun deaths we see in the US, and one could ride these post-mass-murder waves to effect actual change if our politicians actually gave a shit (which they don't); but leftists still need guns to use to protect against cops and other fascists types; and finally, just give everyone a nuke so we could end this charade already.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I hate the topic. I like my guns, I like to go shooting and shooting shit up.
I don't like being punished for it because some loser that gets picked on in school can't amount to anything other than flippin a burger,
HOWEVER,
I can clearly see that there needs to be some sort of restriction put into place so the mentally ill aka psychopathic lunatics, don't get their hands on something that can cause double digit deaths. Even a semi-automatic can wreak in an enclosed environment, and it's not entirely too hard to take that said semi automatic and turn it into a fully automatic if you're even the slightest mechanically gun savvy. No one is going to show up to your home, notice your rifle and say "I need to look at your trigger mechanism to make sure you didn't turn this into a fully automatic."
Just one of those few topics that no matter which stance I take, I'll make someone butt hurt.
mrswdk wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:---------It has nothing to do about guns...If someone wants to kill...They will find away...
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Neoteny wrote:but leftists still need guns to use to protect against cops and other fascists types;
Ah so using firearms to protect oneself against threats? How novel.
-TG
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I hate the topic. I like my guns, I like to go shooting and shooting shit up.
I don't like being punished for it because some loser that gets picked on in school can't amount to anything other than flippin a burger,
HOWEVER,
I can clearly see that there needs to be some sort of restriction put into place so the mentally ill aka psychopathic lunatics, don't get their hands on something that can cause double digit deaths. Even a semi-automatic can wreak in an enclosed environment, and it's not entirely too hard to take that said semi automatic and turn it into a fully automatic if you're even the slightest mechanically gun savvy. No one is going to show up to your home, notice your rifle and say "I need to look at your trigger mechanism to make sure you didn't turn this into a fully automatic."
Just one of those few topics that no matter which stance I take, I'll make someone butt hurt.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Dukasaur wrote:mrswdk wrote:
For 80 years we've had laws regarding licensing, inspections, and mandatory liability insurance for the other great killer, the automobile, and as yet nobody has tried confiscating all the cars. In fact, there are more of them every year.
The slippery slope argument is bunk.
Neoteny wrote:Guns are awesome and so much fun, but they aren't toys and I mean it sincerely when I say I know you know they shouldn't be treated as such. No patronization intended at all. But the amount of lives at risk are worth giving that up.
The discussion from a mental health perspective is a tricky one. People with mental disorders are so much more likely to hurt themselves than they are anyone else, but the standard NRA catchphrases apply to them too. BURGLAR IN YUR HOUS applies to someone with, say, autism or borderline personality too, and why can't they have the right to defend themselves and their family. Where does one draw the line? Depression? Schizophrenia? Borderline? Generalized anxiety? Autism? Who gets to make that decision? Who even wants to? The correct answer to this particular problem is that we need free and available healthcare so that these people have access to alternatives other than violence alongside restrictions on gun ownership across the whole population to whittle down the number of people capable of these mass shootings and their access to guns. That sentance was too long. We can't eliminate massacres altogether of course, but their number could be drastically reduced.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Bernie Sanders wrote:They need some type of stronger restrictions on semi automatic weapons than can hold 30 rounds.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Punishing a majority for a minority is never a great answer.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:If they were successful, that'd defeat my argument
mrswdk wrote:Dukasaur wrote:
For 80 years we've had laws regarding licensing, inspections, and mandatory liability insurance for the other great killer, the automobile, and as yet nobody has tried confiscating all the cars. In fact, there are more of them every year.
The slippery slope argument is bunk.
They've confiscated your freedom to drive at top speeds. Once self-driving cars become commonplace they will confiscate your manual cars, and eventually everyone will be getting transported around in autonomous pods that the police can hijack, lock and director to their killing camps while you bang on the inside screaming for help except no one can hear you.
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