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Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:53 pm

Like every other conservative Republican House investigation, the latest one on Joe Biden and Hunter has ended up being complete garbage, all over-hyped lies.

We finally heard from their star witness, and it was the Democrats who demanded a transcript of his testimony be released.

This was only interesting in that much of the Republican media believed the hype and had their stories prepared and released them, only to find he testified to the opposite of what their Republican contacts said he would say.

Doesn't matter, their brain-dead followers never look for the truth anyway, just what their college dropout conservative "news" hosts tell them. They will probably never realize he testified there were no bribes from Hunter and Joe Biden and will blame the liberal media for the story going away.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/06/is-the-joe-biden-5-million-bribe-a-garbage-lie/

In recent weeks, the Republicans in Congress, especially on the House Oversight Committee, have been alleging something explosive: President Biden, while vice president, accepted a $5 million bribe from a Ukrainian oligarch.

If that were true, it would likely represent a presidency-ending scandal for Biden. But the charges have always been incredibly thin. They are based on a years-old document, long in possession of the FBI, and they are backed by supposed tape recordings that even the most anti-Biden figures acknowledge may not actually exist. And while a $5 million bribe would likely produce a paper trail of some sort, no such trail has been uncovered.

And now, the leading Democrat on the Oversight Committee has produced a transcript of an interview with the person accused of the bribe- who says that he has never talked to Biden, much less bribed him with $5 million. ...

“Despite being interviewed as part of a campaign by Mr. Giuliani and his proxies in 2019 and 2020 to procure damaging information about the Biden family, Mr. Zlochevsky explicitly and unequivocally denied those allegations,” Rep. Raskin said in a statement. “Specifically, Mr. Zlochevsky denied (1) that anyone at Burisma had ‘any contacts’ with then former Vice President Biden or his representatives while Hunter Biden served on the Burisma board, and (2) that former Vice President Biden or his staff ‘in any way’ assisted Mr. Zlochevsky or Burisma.”

Those are the allegations, per Raskin, contained in Form FD-1023 in June 2020, that the Republicans on the committee have claimed are proof of a bribe to the president.

“No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden’s engagement,” Zlochevksy said in the interview. He also answered no when asked if Biden, while vice president, had done anything to assist Burisma.

This contradicts not only the idea that Biden accepted a bribe, but also demolishes years of conspiracy theories that Biden pushed for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor in order to keep them from investigating Burisma.

Lev Parnas, the former Giuliani crony, reacted on Twitter to the release of the interview.

The transcript, per Parnas, “debunks the lies and conspiracy theories that Rudy Giuliani, @RepMTG @RepJamesComer and their corrupt cohorts in the @GOP have been pushing on the American people.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/devon-archer-told-congress-he-would-be-shocked-if-any-5-million-payment-was-made-to-hunter-or-joe-biden-says-dan-goldman/ar-AA1eBCaZ

Archer is their star witness. He said no bribes.
To counter this bad news, instead, Sen. Greasley and others flooded conservative media as if he said the opposite, and implied the original FBI report from an informant wasn't a many times debunked twice removed hearsay that Guillani was told was false and what their star witness debunked again.

I could go into all their other nothing-burger debunked investigations since the Clintons they only have to fundraise off of, and keep their ignorant base riled up.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:30 pm

1) There is more than one viewpoint here, and

2) it is clear that Gary D is pro-Democrat.

The transcripts do not exonerate Biden, not Hunter and not POTUS Joe. Gary D spins it all only ONE way. His biases are clear.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/nine-takeaways-devon-archer-transcript

‘Pretty obvious if you’re the son of a vice president’

Archer told congressional investigators that Hunter Biden’s value to Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company on the board of which both Archer and Hunter Biden served, was his powerful family connections.

“It's pretty obvious if you're, you know, you're the son of a vice president,” Archer said of why Burisma would be interested in hiring Hunter Biden.

Archer also discussed emails from Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop in which Hunter Biden suggested to his business partners that they attempt to convince Burisma they had personally arranged for Joe Biden to make a government visit to Ukraine as vice president.

Archer said the intention was to take credit for the trip, which he did not think Hunter Biden actually arranged, and said the ability to tout the Biden “brand” helped him and Hunter Biden earn more through their joint venture, Rosemont Seneca.

Burisma’s “designs” on Hunter Biden as a shield from scrutiny worked, Archer suggested, because the energy corporation would likely have gone out of business without the vice president’s son.

“People would be intimidated to mess with them … legally” if Hunter Biden was on the company’s board, Archer said.

Unregistered foreign lobbying claims

Hunter Biden has faced scrutiny for, among other things, failing to register his work for Burisma and other foreign companies under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

Archer appeared to fuel claims of illegal foreign lobbying by noting that that was precisely what Hunter Biden was doing with Burisma.


more, same source:
Archer was intentionally out of loop

Archer said repeatedly that Hunter Biden and Burisma business partners purposefully avoided sharing the extent of some conversations allegedly involving Joe Biden and other U.S. government officials, which limited his ability to offer insight into the full scope of Joe Biden’s participation or lack thereof.

“I was left out of everything,” Archer said at one point.


and:

Devon Archer testimony transcript reveals Biden pay-to-play scheme
Americans are wise to the Biden crime family's long history of corruption

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/devon-archer-testimony-transcript-reveals-biden-pay-play-scheme

Really? Are we back to "It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is"? Because that’s what Democrats spinning the testimony of Biden family associate Devon Archer on Monday are going with, contending that the president may have sat in on some phone calls, but he wasn’t "involved" in his son’s corrupt business dealings.

But Americans are wise to the Biden crime family’s long history of corruption, and Archer’s testimony is far more damaging than the Democrats will admit. As a former federal prosecutor, I know that with Devon Archer’s testimony, the case for the Biden’s "pay-to-play" scheme is made—under any definition of "involvement."

Biden allies in Congress won’t admit this. Democrat Rep. Dan Goldman, for example, intimated that Archer’s closed-door testimony actually clears President Biden of involvement in his son’s shady business deals. After Goldman acknowledged that Hunter would "often" put his father on the phone during business calls, he claimed that Archer "was very, very consistent that none of those conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions."
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:23 pm

This was hyped as testimony on the Biden bribery.

The testimony: no bribes.

It is now Republican spin, can we say he was an unregistered foreign agent? How can we spin this?

But look online away from conservative propaganda:
"Devon Archer said the opposite of what Republicans claimed"

On Thursday, the Oversight Committee released a transcript of Archer’s testimony — testimony for which Comer wasn’t present. What Archer said not only doesn’t comport with the presentations made by Comer and Jordan on television (which were obviously wrong from the outset), his testimony undermines the idea that Burisma wanted Shokin fired, that Zlochevsky paid any bribe — and, crucially, that Joe Biden was involved in any of this.

LIARS and spin. And not very good ones.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:25 pm

Yes, this summarizes nearly all your posts, Gary D:

LIARS and spin. And not very good ones.


A Special Prosecutor is needed to find the truth, or something close to that.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:41 am

--------Not just Archer, and just the IRS investigators...Others are coming out...
-------- 48 people including The Attorney General were sent up the river...As those involved in Watergate would be uncovered one after another, as the search continued...Nixon resigned, so the Office of The President of The United States wouldn't be dishonored...Even Nixon never sold out America to America's enemies...
-------- As the House investigation continues, and follows the money, more people will start coming forward, to make deals...As the Bidens go down...Joe Biden even wrote Archer a letter on Vice President stationary...So much for not having anything to do with things...One Biden lie after another coming out, as the search goes on...
-------- A House Impeachment inquery will bring The Whole Biden crime family schemes to light... Before the Impeachment comes...
-------- But like Clinton, Trump , Biden will not be removed...Need both House and Senate...
-------- But since Trump's 1st Impeachment was him trying to tell of Biden's Ukraine corruption...Which we now know to be true...Should that be removed from Trump and given to Biden...So in the 2024 A.D. Election....Trump will have 1 impeachment, and Biden will have 2...Instead of the other way around...
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:29 am

Scientists finally confirmed Confederates inane mind by photographing the interior.

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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby 2dimes on Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:15 am

Why would it look like an acoustic insulation lined quiet room?

I would expect it to be quite chaotic in there.

Like a barn full of geese.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:10 am

No, that's a cheese grater. All the information that comes in is chopped into little pieces and mixed together randomly, along with some stale bits that were left behind last time.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:32 pm

Our major Confederates here are still trying to spin this.

Just like they spin slavery, the cause of the Civil War, Blacks Lives Matter, abortion as murder, Jim Crow laws, lynching, and say the Republican Southern Strategy never happened, etc.

tired of the lies.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby riskllama on Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:52 pm

well Gary, tbf both parties are going to lie to you. surely you must realize this, yeah?
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:06 pm

riskllama wrote:well Gary, tbf both parties are going to lie to you. surely you must realize this, yeah?


The Llama wins this thread. +1
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:18 am

How far do their lies go?
How many are they dragging down into deep conspiracy holes?


Trust the Plan - the influence and absurdity of the popular QAnon craziness on the Right.

By now, many are familiar with QAnon, the once-fringe conspiracy group that gained millions of supporters in the U.S. and abroad over the last 5 years.

For those who aren't, here's author and journalist Will Sommer's summary: "The world is run by a cabal of Satanic cannibal pedophiles from the ranks of the Democratic party, Hollywood and global finance, who sexually abuse children and even drink their blood in rituals."

Absent from that summary are aliens, lizard people and a liquid called adrenochrome extracted from terrorized children, some of them in subterranean tunnels. At the movement's core is the belief that former President Donald Trump is a messianic figure who will bring world peace, absolve debt and cure disease.

What's the latest on the group, particularly as Trump gears up for the 2024 primary? Sommer joins host Robin Young to talk about his new book, "Trust the Plan: The Rise of QAnon and the Conspiracy That Unhinged America," a deep dive into QAnon.



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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:24 pm

----------New Biden Bank records....Biden brand /family getting money from Rich Commie Pinkos...The new bank accounts, are leading to more laundering bank accounts...As Biden's money is being followed around the world... Biden corruption deniers get ready...The money is telling truth...
---------- Bidens get money... Russian rich Commie Pinko after the invasion of Ukraine, she is not sanctioned, like other russian billionaires...Biden has dinner with her...When she was in Washington D.C...
---------- Biden just banned mining for Uranium near the Grand Canyon...The U.S. buys more than 50% of it's Uranium from... Russia/Soviet Union and Kazakhstan....Which another Biden bank account from money from a Kazakhstan Billionaire...
----------- Money from China going to Biden bank accounts...Spy Balloons,etc,etc...As Biden sells out America...
----------- The House of Reps. Is Tracking the money...To money to money...As more things are uncovered... People are getting nervous, coming forward...To drop dimes on The Biden Corruption Family...
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Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:28 pm

N.B. Russia has not been communist for some time now.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:21 pm

Yes, Russia is one of the most admired Fascist dictatorships for Republican politicians now. Their oligarchs are treated like the multimillionaire Republican donors they are.

You can see Republican politicians trying to wrangle tickets to celebrate the Fourth of July in Moscow.
Or attend conservative conventions in other Fascist dictatorships like Hungary.

The Republican Party has learned the Fascist techniques of hate speech and got loyal followers who believe all their outrageous lies. Hungary and Russia are models they are trying to follow and convert our country into.

Why lying and conspiracy theories are so pervasive in the American Right now - it is learned rhetoric and propaganda by Republicans following authoritarian playbooks.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/30/the-connection-between-political-lies-and-conspiracy-theories-00108378
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Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:19 pm

You mean we've moved on from 'pinko commie bastards' to 'role models'? Surely not!
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Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:35 am

Id hardly say Republicans are modeling themselves after Russia. That's tinfoil hat areas
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Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:29 am

Sure. But can you be 'pinko' and an oligarch? I'm just confused about who's being insulted and for what. Feel free to go back over my posts and highlight, capitalise, and change font size/bold. and add a few ,,, inbetween the bits that don't make sense.
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Postby jimboston on Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:26 pm

riskllama wrote:well Gary, tbf both parties are going to lie to you. surely you must realize this, yeah?


No.

No he hasn’t, he won’t, he’s incapable of thinking this ‘deep’.

(and be deep I mean like the couple inches you run into a sink to allow you to shave.)
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:25 pm

jimboston wrote:
riskllama wrote:well Gary, tbf both parties are going to lie to you. surely you must realize this, yeah?


No.

No he hasn’t, he won’t, he’s incapable of thinking this ‘deep’.

(and be deep I mean like the couple inches you run into a sink to allow you to shave.)


Gary D has to be one of the most one-sided partisans who now frequently posts in this Forum. It is too bad he cannot even see his biases or even contemplate that he MAY be biased.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:55 pm

I got tired of this forum being dominated by Confederates and others just repeating conservative noise machine lies.

Meanwhile, the wheels of justice are slowly grinding - Fulton County Document Lists 13 Possible Trump Felony Charges. It appears the jury is voting on the charges now to be released this week.

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-fulton-county-charges-reuters-court-document.

Trump is filling his diapers again as he also threatened someone who is going to testify against him, deliberately ignoring a judge's instructions. I expect his trial to be moved up as the judge warned. I would throw him in jail as he can't follow legal instructions, but that is me.

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/14/trump-georgia-witness-duncan-fulton-county
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:06 am

GaryDenton wrote:I got tired of this forum being dominated by Confederates and others just repeating conservative noise machine lies.

Meanwhile, the wheels of justice are slowly grinding - Fulton County Document Lists 13 Possible Trump Felony Charges. It appears the jury is voting on the charges now to be released this week.

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-fulton-county-charges-reuters-court-document.

Trump is filling his diapers again as he also threatened someone who is going to testify against him, deliberately ignoring a judge's instructions. I expect his trial to be moved up as the judge warned. I would throw him in jail as he can't follow legal instructions, but that is me.

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/14/trump-georgia-witness-duncan-fulton-county


Perhaps your opinions are politically in the minority in a larger forum, and not just here, GaryD.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:18 pm

Now that a special prosecutor is named to look into matters of Hunter Biden and POSSIBLE ties to President Biden, GaryD has been very very quiet on this matter.
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:36 pm

There has been nothing to see here.

The tax charges have been dismissed, just as smart tax experts thought they should be and they should never have been brought.

Republicans are whining the fix is in, with the appointment of the special prosecutor, they begged months ago to be appointed. It is all whining, lying political theater to them.

Republicans Are Mad They Got The Hunter Biden Special Counsel They Asked For

https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-mad-got-hunter-biden-222225202.html

Representatives Comer and Jackson and Jordan and Babin et. al. are the ones sweating now as they begin charging other conspirators in the attempted coup.

Are you still listening to propaganda instead of news?
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Re: Biden's $5 Million Bribe Another Garbage Lie

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:01 pm

If they ever have any evidence of criminal activity by Hunter, I hope justice is served.

Meanwhile, the real corrupt druggy, Donald Trump Jr., should host a new show.

https://youtu.be/47yFRXZqB0g

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