Happy Thanksgiving Day 2023 A.D.!!!

[ConfederateSS]

------- Happy Thanksgiving Day 2023 A.D. ...Turkey , Football, Political fights at the dinning room table...Oh, Yeah ... AMERICA knows how to party...Have fun, stay safe... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
-------I know, The Bible, Nostradamus...WW3...We are knocking on the End of the World...The Detroit Lions are actually, yes , actually in the running to Win The Superbowl...There is your sign, the end of times......

[jusplay4fun]

Happy Thanksgiving, ConfedSS; and the SAME to others who read this and to all on CC.

This is a major Holiday in the USA (for those who may not know) and many travel to be with family. Some 50 million will travel over 50 miles, some 80 km. The large majority will drive to their location. My wife and I will drive, but not that far to be with our son and his family.

I plan to avoid fights at the Thanksgiving Dinner, today.

Football, especially college football, is a different, however.

[HitRed]

Best to all. Very thankful this year. Thanking God for all the blessings, graces, gifts and guidance.

HitRed

[Lonous]

Its the mark of a solid community to be able to put differences aside and wish each other well on special occasions.
Hope you all have a peaceful day of smiles.

[bigtoughralf]

If people eat turkey on thanksgiving, do they eat something different at Christmas or just double up and have the same meal twice?

[Votanic]

If people eat turkey on thanksgiving, do they eat something different at Christmas or just double up and have the same meal twice?

I think having two similar turkey dinners a month apart is more than acceptable... but of course this is 2023... so doubtlessly people serve every manner of conceivable dish at their holiday tables.

Of course, turkey itself has largely replaced the earlier standard Christmas main course: Goose.

[HitRed]

I had pizza for breakfast.

[Pack Rat]

I had pizza for breakfast.

I drank 3 cups of coffee and a Heineken for breakfast. Saving my appetite for the 20 pound turkey, stuffing and assorted dishes.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Tis the season of giving.

To keep up with the holiday and it's significant meaning, i gave my neighbors blankets with measles and small pox. Hope they enjoy!

[Votanic]

Tis the season of giving.

To keep up with the holiday and it's significant meaning, i gave my neighbors blankets with measles and small pox. Hope they enjoy!

Nature's vaccine... nice. That should get his immune system revved up.

[GaryDenton]

I have been taking care of my 93-year-old father.
He ate the best and the most today in several months.

But I wanted to share this.

The real history of Thanksgiving.

Dr. Heather Cox Richardson - historian.

November 23, 2023 (Thursday)
Thanksgiving is the quintessential American holiday…but not for the reasons we generally remember.

The Pilgrims and the Wampanoags did indeed share a harvest celebration together at Plymouth in fall 1621, but that moment got forgotten almost immediately, overwritten by the long history of the settlers’ attacks on their Indigenous neighbors.

In 1841 a book that reprinted the early diaries and letters from the Plymouth colony recovered the story of that three-day celebration in which ninety Indigenous Americans and the English settlers shared fowl and deer. This story of peace and goodwill among men who by the 1840s were more often enemies than not inspired Sarah Josepha Hale, who edited the popular women’s magazine Godey’s Lady's Book, to think that a national celebration could ease similar tensions building between the slave-holding South and the free North. She lobbied for legislation to establish a day of national thanksgiving.

And then, on April 12, 1861, southern soldiers fired on Fort Sumter, a federal fort in Charleston Harbor, and the meaning of a holiday for giving thanks changed.

Southern leaders wanted to destroy the United States of America and create their own country, based not in the traditional American idea that “all men are created equal,” but rather in its opposite: that some men were better than others and had the right to enslave their neighbors. In the 1850s, convinced that society worked best if a few wealthy men ran it, southern leaders had bent the laws of the United States to their benefit, using it to protect enslavement above all.

In 1860, northerners elected Abraham Lincoln to the presidency to stop rich southern enslavers from taking over the government and using it to cement their own wealth and power. As soon as he was elected, southern leaders pulled their states out of the Union to set up their own country. After the firing on Fort Sumter, Lincoln and the fledgling Republican Party set out to end the slaveholders’ rebellion.

The early years of the war did not go well for the U.S. By the end of 1862, the armies still held, but people on the home front were losing faith. Leaders recognized the need both to acknowledge the suffering and to keep Americans loyal to the cause. In November and December, seventeen state governors declared state thanksgiving holidays.

New York governor Edwin Morgan’s widely reprinted proclamation about the holiday reflected that the previous year “is numbered among the dark periods of history, and its sorrowful records are graven on many hearthstones.” But this was nonetheless a time for giving thanks, he wrote, because “the precious blood shed in the cause of our country will hallow and strengthen our love and our reverence for it and its institutions…. Our Government and institutions placed in jeopardy have brought us to a more just appreciation of their value.”

The next year, Lincoln got ahead of the state proclamations. On July 15 he declared a national day of Thanksgiving, and the relief in his proclamation was almost palpable. After two years of disasters, the Union army was finally winning. Bloody, yes; battered, yes; but winning. At Gettysburg in early July, Union troops had sent Confederates reeling back southward. Then, on July 4, Vicksburg had finally fallen to U. S. Grant’s army. The military tide was turning.

President Lincoln set Thursday, August 6, 1863, for the national day of Thanksgiving. On that day, ministers across the country listed the signal victories of the U.S. Army and Navy in the past year and reassured their congregations that it was only a matter of time until the United States government put down the southern rebellion. Their predictions acknowledged the dead and reinforced the idea that their sacrifice had not been in vain.

In October 1863, President Lincoln declared a second national day of Thanksgiving. In the past year, he declared, the nation had been blessed.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, he wrote, Americans had maintained their laws and their institutions and had kept foreign countries from meddling with their nation. They had paid for the war as they went, refusing to permit the destruction to cripple the economy. Instead, as they funded the war, they had also advanced farming, industry, mining, and shipping. Immigrants had poured into the country to replace men lost on the battlefield, and the economy was booming. And Lincoln had recently promised that the government would end slavery once and for all. The country, he predicted, “with a large increase of freedom,” would survive, stronger and more prosperous than ever. The president invited Americans “in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea, and those who are sojourning in foreign lands” to observe the last Thursday of November as a day of Thanksgiving.

In 1863, November’s last Thursday fell on the 26th. On November 19, Lincoln delivered an address at the dedication of a national cemetery at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. He reached back to the Declaration of Independence for the principles on which he called for Americans to rebuild the severed nation:

​​”Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

Lincoln urged the crowd to take up the torch those who fought at Gettysburg had laid down. He called for them to “highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

The following year, Lincoln proclaimed another day of Thanksgiving, this time congratulating Americans that God had favored them not only with immigration but also with the emancipation of formerly enslaved people. “Moreover,” Lincoln wrote, “He has been pleased to animate and inspire our minds and hearts with fortitude, courage, and resolution sufficient for the great trial of civil war into which we have been brought by our adherence as a nation to the cause of freedom and humanity, and to afford to us reasonable hopes of an ultimate and happy deliverance from all our dangers and afflictions.”

In 1861, Americans went to war to keep a cabal from taking control of the government and turning it into an oligarchy. The fight against that rebellion seemed at first to be too much for the nation to survive. But Americans rallied and threw their hearts into the cause on the battlefields even as they continued to work on the home front for a government that defended democracy and equality before the law.

And in 1865, at least, they won.

[saxitoxin]

The Pilgrims and the Wampanoags did indeed share a harvest celebration together at Plymouth in fall 1621, but that moment got forgotten almost immediately, overwritten by the long history of the settlers’ attacks on their Indigenous neighbors.

Conflict with the Wampanoag started in 1675 after the Great Sachem of the Wampanoag King Philip - an obese, itinerant drunk who owned dozens of slaves, many of whom he regularly raped - had a rival member of the Massachuett tribe, John Sassamon (also the first Native to attend Harvard), murdered over a probate dispute. Colonial authorities had the murderers tried and they were found guilty by a 12-member jury composed of 6 Natives and 6 colonists. King Philip then declared war against Plymouth Colony but crossed the wrong border and killed all the residents of a Bay Colony village by accident. After that, all six New England colonies, joined by the Massachusett Tribe, the Pequot Tribe, and the Mohegan Tribe declared war against the Wampanoag Confederacy.

Midway through the war, King Phillip crossed the border into New York - which up until then had been neutral - and murdered all the members of an Iroquois village. His intention was to make it look like a colonial army had done it to get the Iroquois into the war on his side. But one Iroquois escaped and reported what happened. The Iroquois Confederacy then also declared war against the Wampanoag, crossed the border, and destroyed the entire Wampanoag army.

As he was fleeing the battle, King Phillip was captured and shot dead by one of his own tribal members, John Alderman, whose brother King Philip earlier had executed.

During the entire fracas, both England and New York refused to provide any aid or assistance to the New England colonies since they'd supported Cromwell during the Civil War. Meanwhile, France sent copious amounts of muskets and gunpowder to the Wampanoag.

So that's whose side you're on: a slave-owning, obese, cowardly, drunk, war crimes-committing rapist dictator, backed by Europe and hated by his own people, who went to war to cover-up his murder of another Native. Congrats!

[saxitoxin]

As an interesting aside, after the Great Swamp City of the Naraganassett (Wampanoag allies) fell to New England forces and their tribal allies, the Naraganassett chief Canonchet was executed by the Mohegan sachem Oneco who had commanded the Mohegan company during the battle. Canonchet's own father had also been executed by a Mohegan sachem years earlier - Oneco's father, Uncas!

Years later, Oneco sued Connecticut to get a portion of his tribe's land back he'd earlier sold to Connecticut -- he argued that the treaty was invalid as he was blackout drunk when he signed it. The case was ultimately decided in Oneco's favor after a hearing in London. The Connecticut government refused to recognize the ruling but ultimately succumbed to British pressure. That land is now the site of the beautiful Mohegan Sun Casino & Resort in Uncasville, Connecticut which boasts more than 4,000 slot machines and nearly 300 table games including the fastest roulette wheels in New England!

It also has 38 dining options from casual to elegant, including: Chik-fil-A, Jersey Mike's, Michael Jordan's Steakhouse, Phantasia Asian Fusion, Sushi Koya, and Tuscany by Todd English. You'll also love the tribe's entertainment options. Upcoming acts include the hilarious drag duo Lipstick Lashes, comedian Orlando Baxter, superstar Michael Bolton, and the iconic Frankie Vallie and the Four Seasons. So, next time you're in Uncasville, be sure to pay tribute to the noble heritage of the first peoples of the Americas and book your 3-night stay at Mohegan Sun Resort & Casino using promo code WINBIG24sx for 5% off. If you're booking via phone, also be sure to tell the operator you want to use promo code WINBIG24sx. Good luck and let your dice at the craps table fly as high as the noble eagle soars to the land of the ancestors!

[GaryDenton]

So that's whose side you're on

Did I write that I was on his side? However...

In 1620 the Wampanoag high chief, Massasoit, made a peace treaty with the Pilgrims, who had landed in the tribe’s territory; the treaty was observed until Massasoit’s death. Bad treatment by settlers who encroached on tribal lands, however, led his son, Metacom, or Metacomet, also known to the English as King Philip, to organize a confederacy of tribes to drive out the colonists (see also King Philip’s War). The colonists eventually defeated and killed King Philip and other leading chiefs, and the Wampanoag and Narragansett were almost exterminated. Some survivors fled to the interior, while others moved to the islands of Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard to join kin who had remained neutral during the conflict. Disease and epidemics destroyed most of the indigenous people who lived on Nantucket, but Wampanoag people survived to the present, particularly on Martha’s Vineyard.

Early 21st-century population estimates indicated some 4,500 Wampanoag descendants.

I cannot find Saxi's racist account anywhere.

I did see that after his death King Phillip's wife and nine-year-old son were captured and sold as slaves in Bermuda. Philip's head was mounted on a pike at the entrance to Plymouth, Massachusetts, where it remained for more than two decades. His body was cut into quarters and hung in trees.

The White settler's behavior in the war was reprehensible, leading Rhode Island to stay out.

[saxitoxin]

So that's whose side you're on

Did I write that I was on his side? However...

In 1620 the Wampanoag high chief, Massasoit, made a peace treaty with the Pilgrims, who had landed in the tribe’s territory; the treaty was observed until Massasoit’s death. Bad treatment by settlers who encroached on tribal lands, however, led his son, Metacom, or Metacomet, also known to the English as King Philip, to organize a confederacy of tribes to drive out the colonists (see also King Philip’s War). The colonists eventually defeated and killed King Philip and other leading chiefs, and the Wampanoag and Narragansett were almost exterminated. Some survivors fled to the interior, while others moved to the islands of Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard to join kin who had remained neutral during the conflict. Disease and epidemics destroyed most of the indigenous people who lived on Nantucket, but Wampanoag people survived to the present, particularly on Martha’s Vineyard.

Early 21st-century population estimates indicated some 4,500 Wampanoag descendants.

I cannot find Saxi's racist account anywhere.

I did see that after his death King Phillip's wife and nine-year-old son were captured and sold as slaves in Bermuda. Philip's head was mounted on a pike at the entrance to Plymouth, Massachusetts, where it remained for more than two decades. His body was cut into quarters and hung in trees.

The White settler's behavior in the war was reprehensible, leading Rhode Island to stay out.

How about the behavior of the tribes that fought on the side of the settlers: the Pequot, Massachusett, Mohegan and Iroquois? Was that reprehensible?

I forgot more about Native American history yesterday than you've learned in your entire life. You don't wanna try to match me on this topic, Kemosabe. Especially with forwards of Facebook posts.

[saxitoxin]

leading Rhode Island to stay out

Rhode Island stayed out as they had been suspended from the New England Confederation for permitting the practice of Roman Catholicism, dumbass. (But they got attacked anyway.)

Didn't you ever hafta read Endicott and the Red Cross by Hawthorne?

The American educational system is shit.

I cannot find Saxi's account anywhere.

If your knowledgebase is limited to all caps Facebook posts that doesn't surprise me. Like if you're unable to even work The Google then, yes, that would be an issue.

"King Philip's War" Countryman Press (2017) is a good introduction for people entering the topic with minimal knowledge of aboriginal anthropology such as yourself. Once you're done with that I'd recommend "Flintlock and Tomahawk" (1958).

[GaryDenton]

I actually have King Phillips War and Our Beloved Kin in my library. I should move them up on my list.

[Votanic]

King Philip's brother, Wamsutta, has continued on to even greater fame than his bellicose sibling, becoming the namesake of a popular brand of bed linens now distributed and sold throughout the Western Hemisphere!

When the twin dynamos of history and retail marketing join forces, who can predict what miraculous developments may occur. God bless America!

[jusplay4fun]

leading Rhode Island to stay out

Rhode Island stayed out as they had been suspended from the New England Confederation for permitting the practice of Roman Catholicism, dumbass. (But they got attacked anyway.)

Didn't you ever hafta read Endicott and the Red Cross by Hawthorne?

The American educational system is shit.

I cannot find Saxi's account anywhere.

If your knowledgebase is limited to all caps Facebook posts that doesn't surprise me. Like if you're unable to even work The Google then, yes, that would be an issue.

"King Philip's War" Countryman Press (2017) is a good introduction for people entering the topic with minimal knowledge of aboriginal anthropology such as yourself. Once you're done with that I'd recommend "Flintlock and Tomahawk" (1958).

NOTE the omission by saxi; this is typical of him as he leaves out and omits key facts to advance his Fake News:

GaryD actually said:

Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 2023 A.D.!!!
Postby GaryDenton on Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:20 pm

I cannot find Saxi's racist account anywhere.