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Whac a Conqueror (Completed - Winner: TrafalgarLaw01)

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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby theflycassanova on Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:55 am

theflycassanova wrote:I definitely want in on this - give me a day or two to decide map :D


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Game Type: Poly 4
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: None
Reinforcements: Chained
Weather: Fog
Trench: Yes
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Thanks Traf!
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Mon Mar 31, 2025 12:30 pm

Thank you everyone for joining. Waiting for privileges
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:13 pm

All games created and invites sent. GL. Decided to keep the format as it is as 75 games at the time is still a heavy toll.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby theflycassanova on Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:23 am

Lindax wrote:The Tournament Dept offers the following extra prizes:

1200 Credits for the winner, if they beat the TO.

A General Achievement Medal for the first player who beats the TO on all 5 maps.

Lx

=D> =D> =D>
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:05 pm

SoN!c wrote:Pity we can only choose one map because to beat Traf at Spanish Armada is mission impossible


Some prize for the first player who beats the TO on Spanish Armada ?
=D> =D> =D>
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby SoN!c on Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm

chanakam2020 wrote:
SoN!c wrote:Pity we can only choose one map because to beat Traf at Spanish Armada is mission impossible


Some prize for the first player who beats the TO on Spanish Armada ?
=D> =D> =D>


No way! You didn"t!
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby josko.ri on Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:29 pm

23-7 for Traf, mostly while random and away maps are finished but his home maps still ongoing So expectation is to Even increase that lead. Exactly as I had predicted in my initial post, that it is not really hard task to win 67% of games when 3 of 5 are your home maps. Even from average CC player expectation is to win that high percentage with 3 of 5 home maps. I have, for instance, 60% overall winning score out of more than 20000 games played, where tons of games are multiplayer, battle royales or such where chances for winning are very low, thus from that position it is legit from my side to claim that winning 67% in only 1v1 games with 3 of 5 home maps is not something really hard to do.

What really is hard to do is to beat conqueror with Any score, when he chooses 3 of 5 maps, and I am very close to do it, currently 2-2 in decided games with hive quads decider and I have fairly good lead there (Even when going with second turn on his home map).
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby theelkspeaks on Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:57 pm

I got Spanish Armada for the second time as my random map - and it looks like I'm likely to be at 2-2 after losing one Spanish Armada and my home map, but with a solid lead on Hive and Das Schloss - with Spanish Armada 2 as the decider.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby theelkspeaks on Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:25 pm

Traf's stats so far:

5-4 on players' home maps
0-0 on Hive
3-2 on Das Schloss
5-3 on Spanish Armada
10-1 on Random Poly-3

Total 23-10

Every player with at least one game finished has lost at least one game. Two players (Gematria and Carl) are 0-0 still.

SoN!c and theflycassanova have 2-1 leads over Traf.

j1mathman is 2-2.

Only two players are 1-3; the other 13 challengers are still alive.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:36 pm

SoN!c wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:
SoN!c wrote:Pity we can only choose one map because to beat Traf at Spanish Armada is mission impossible


Some prize for the first player who beats the TO on Spanish Armada ?
=D> =D> =D>


No way! You didn"t!


I did it somehow. But I may not be the first . :-$ :-$ :-$
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby josko.ri on Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:58 am

If there is only one lower skilled player whom will Traf beat 5-0, then three players Need to beat Traf with 3-2 score in order to reach 16-9 and make up for that loss of 5-0 but so to put Traf Under 67%. Thus, no matters that high skilled players can (and will) beat Traf on these settings, he will still win the tournament on basis of beating lower skilled players with 5-0.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby Clanlord Carl on Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:28 am

2-3 starts

Carl so far - won SA.
Up in das s but esc so who knows
Level (ish) waterloo
Losing hive
Losing Rokes drift.

So touch and go.

Ending 2-3 oh well.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby josko.ri on Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:20 am

Me 2-3 in starts, got unlucky that radom map was schloss, almost the same as his home map (difference is Escalating no Spoils) and at this point almost secured win of 3-2.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby josko.ri on Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:15 am

Looks like 53-22 for Traf. As I forecasted, it was not really hard task to reach 67% wins when you play 3 of 5 home maps and when your opposition are mostly average skilled players (whoever wanted to sign-up) where winning with 4-1 or 5-0 score is not really a hard task.

The highly skilled players (speaking In terms of rank, Brigadiers and above, which are theflycassanova and me) both did beat Traf. There is also general rank Gematria74, but he/she is anyway not a 1v1 or poly player by experience (less than 50% of his/her lifetime games are 1v1, poly and teams combined, whereas for theflycassanova and me that ratio is bigger than 50%).

That said, congrats to Traf for winning the tournament on a basis of kicking average skilled players with 4-1 or 5-0 scores, which I had predicted will occur. ;)

I support and praise this idea of calling the community to play against conqueror, and I admire the willingness to play 75 games at a time, which was not even needed I think, as nobody would object if Traf played each opponent one after another. =D>

However, as I strive for excellency especially when it comes to conqueror, I am not happy that scoring system favorized beating the average ranked players 4-1 or 5-0 on maps that they (mostly) dont know how to play, but at the same time it was not favored approach of beating all the 15 players head-to-head, which could even be achieved over more rounds. for instance, if someone beats Traf in round 1 then only these players play more rounds until either that player reaches margin of 2 wins (0-2, 1-3, 2-4 etc) or Traf reaches margin of 1 win (2-1, 3-2, 4-3 etc). on this way, all players would have power of winning this tournament in their own hands, rather than relying on whether Traf will beat average ranked players with 5-0 or 3-2.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (Completed - Winner: TrafalgarLaw01)

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:37 pm

Thank you everyone for playign all games have been completed.
Final Results

Total:
TrafalgarLaw01 54 Wins - 21 Loses

Congrats to josko.ri and theflycassanova for beating me 2-3 (Still a bit sad for the loss in Schlos vs the fly as I felt i had the game but he played great games overall as well)

That means I went over the threshold of 50 wins.

Some data from the torunament.

Surprinsingly and what I'm most proud of my best map was actually the Random map.
Random - 14/15 - Congratualtions to Sonic for being the only one beating me on Random
Hive - 12/15 - Congrats to josko, theelkspeaks and Zorro134 for beating em here.
Das Schloss - 12/15 - Congrats to theelkspeaks, J1mathman and theflycassanova for beating me here
Spanish Armada - 10/15 - Congras to josko, Devante, Chanakam2020, theflycassanova nd ClanlordCarl
Away maps 6/9

If someone is wondering Point wise how did this tournament went for me, despite wining 54 and losing 21 I ended up losing 143 points in total. No longer conq :(

Playing all 75 maps at the same time was demanding and quite a toll, but enjoyable tournament, hopefully some other conqerors get to try something similar in the future.
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