Moderator: Cartographers
vonunruh wrote:the fact that everyone has a different reaction to this board tends to indicate that the map is pretty well made; if there was an obvious flaw everyone would most likely spot it and comment on the same thing.
oaktown wrote:I am still thinking about pulling the flag from Rhodesia - it doesn't make sense that it can be bombarded from sea, and it would both make the British empire and the African regions more attractive. It'd probably mean dropping the Brit empire bonus down to +5.
oaktown wrote:vonunruh wrote:the fact that everyone has a different reaction to this board tends to indicate that the map is pretty well made; if there was an obvious flaw everyone would most likely spot it and comment on the same thing.
Thanks for that vonunruh; it's about how I'm feeling.
I am still thinking about pulling the flag from Rhodesia - it doesn't make sense that it can be bombarded from sea, and it would both make the british empire and the african regions more attractive. It'd probably mean dropping the Brit empire bonus down to +5.
thoughts?
JustCallMeStupid wrote:The neutral starting at 2 and after first attack resets to 4 seems a good idea to try out on the map. Sounds like an easy XML change too. The russia bonus idea, might not be worth doing but I like the idea.
AndyDufresne wrote:MAybe I can encourage lack to do an XML update?
AndyDufresne wrote:MAybe I can encourage lack to do an XML update? I doubt it would be soon though.
vonunruh wrote:European bonuses are just too hard to get/hold...everyone is fighting over them while 1 or 2 players with the right drop take over the east.
LFAW wrote:Its a great map one bug though in coding and thats Italy cant attack Germany, only Austria-Hungary.
Please fix.
Caesius wrote:I'm relatively new to CC, but I've played a fair number of maps and this one has grown to be my favorite, and I play it religiously even though it's still in beta. The empires and the concept of naval superiority add a whole new dimension to the map.
I only play two-player games though, so my input will only apply to when this game is played with two players, but I also usually play this map with Fog of War enabled.
I've only read a few comments in this thread, but here are some of my thoughts (more like observations):
-It's very easy to take and hold Japan if at least two of your armies start there, especially if Amur, Manchuria, and/or Shanghai are held by neutral armies.
-Europe can be very hotly contested between players who have experience with the map, since they know that if they try to take control of a European power's empire and the enemy knows that they've taken it and still hold at least one European power, then that power can take Naval Superiority and bombard all their 1-army colonies. Thus, it becomes a priority to deny the enemy access to Naval Superiority before attempting to complete an empire. Once the enemy is out of Europe, taking the rest of Europe and gaining the +8 bonus could be very easy, depending on the distribution of neutral armies and the enemy's activities elsewhere in the world (e.g. if you're also busy keeping them from taking Japan or China, which can't be bombarded).
-Given the importance of Europe, a player taking the entirety of the region is a fairly common occurrence given its size. Russia on the other hand I have never seen taken, because it simply does not hold anywhere near the same strategic importance - certainly, resources spent taking Russia almost universally would be better spent taking Europe.
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<border>New Guinea</border>
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<border>Siam</border>
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<border>Australia</border>
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</coordinates>
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<name>Naval Superiority</name>
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</borders>
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<bombardment>Canton</bombardment>
<bombardment>India</bombardment>
<bombardment>South Africa</bombardment>
<bombardment>Egypt and Sudan</bombardment>
<bombardment>British East Africa</bombardment>
<bombardment>Sumatra</bombardment>
<bombardment>Java</bombardment>
<bombardment>Nigeria</bombardment>
<bombardment>Cameroon</bombardment>
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<bombardment>German East Africa</bombardment>
<bombardment>Angola</bombardment>
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<bombardment>Somaliland</bombardment>
<bombardment>Tripoli</bombardment>
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<neutral killer="yes">4</neutral>
</territory>
</map>
Caesius wrote:-It's very easy to take and hold Japan if at least two of your armies start there, especially if Amur, Manchuria, and/or Shanghai are held by neutral armies.
oaktown wrote:• Shanghai is now a part of the UK Empire, representing Hong Kong, and is can be bombarded by the ship. This won't make the UK Empire any easier to hold (sorry brits), but the Chinese Empire can now be broken remotely. I think this is a key change.
the.killing.44 wrote:oaktown wrote:• Shanghai is now a part of the UK Empire, representing Hong Kong, and is can be bombarded by the ship. This won't make the UK Empire any easier to hold (sorry brits), but the Chinese Empire can now be broken remotely. I think this is a key change.
You mean Canton?
.44
oaktown wrote: Each of the eight starting positions now starts with two of these territories in addition to a European territory.
BaldAdonis wrote:oaktown wrote: Each of the eight starting positions now starts with two of these territories in addition to a European territory.
Does this mean games will start with 30~ neutrals?
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