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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby aage on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:15 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
edocsil wrote:
aage wrote:
edocsil wrote:It isn't needed. A few idiots are advocating pointless lynches, and you are tailing right along. And, yes I am being rude, but you guys should be fucking embarrassed, thinking that hanging vanillas is productive. We have trackers/watchers, it's a cop theme. They will hunt down lies, and here you all are willingly allowing yourselves to be manipulated. Their story is too complicated to be a scum maneuver (well BGs at least) and this VT hanging will help no one but the scum.
If it's a cop themed game there shouldn't be many VT's. Besides, I'd rather lynch one of them rather than have all of those cop roles waste time on them.


Vodean is who I would like to see inved, not the VTs. I do agree that a full on cop has better things to do.


If you have a dictionary at your desk look up the word manipulative then re-read your post.

Well, then buckle up, because this is Mafia. Every post and opinion is manipulative, whether intended or no. So thanks for the useless post.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:16 pm

aage wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
edocsil wrote:
aage wrote:
edocsil wrote:It isn't needed. A few idiots are advocating pointless lynches, and you are tailing right along. And, yes I am being rude, but you guys should be fucking embarrassed, thinking that hanging vanillas is productive. We have trackers/watchers, it's a cop theme. They will hunt down lies, and here you all are willingly allowing yourselves to be manipulated. Their story is too complicated to be a scum maneuver (well BGs at least) and this VT hanging will help no one but the scum.
If it's a cop themed game there shouldn't be many VT's. Besides, I'd rather lynch one of them rather than have all of those cop roles waste time on them.


Vodean is who I would like to see inved, not the VTs. I do agree that a full on cop has better things to do.


If you have a dictionary at your desk look up the word manipulative then re-read your post.

Well, then buckle up, because this is Mafia. Every post and opinion is manipulative, whether intended or no. So thanks for the useless post.


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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby aage on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:24 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
aage wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
edocsil wrote:
aage wrote:
edocsil wrote:It isn't needed. A few idiots are advocating pointless lynches, and you are tailing right along. And, yes I am being rude, but you guys should be fucking embarrassed, thinking that hanging vanillas is productive. We have trackers/watchers, it's a cop theme. They will hunt down lies, and here you all are willingly allowing yourselves to be manipulated. Their story is too complicated to be a scum maneuver (well BGs at least) and this VT hanging will help no one but the scum.
If it's a cop themed game there shouldn't be many VT's. Besides, I'd rather lynch one of them rather than have all of those cop roles waste time on them.


Vodean is who I would like to see inved, not the VTs. I do agree that a full on cop has better things to do.


If you have a dictionary at your desk look up the word manipulative then re-read your post.

Well, then buckle up, because this is Mafia. Every post and opinion is manipulative, whether intended or no. So thanks for the useless post.


back at ya sunshine.

The intended effect was that your next post would be a little more relevant :(

Epitaph1 wrote:@edoc. Wash your hands of this day if you will, but lynching is the town's only guaranteed weapon against the mafia. Assuming we have 3 or 4 mafia, we have between a 23% - 31% chance of getting a mafia randomly on D1. I would submit that our chances are even higher since we've had time to feel out some of the players receiving votes. Throw 3rd parties into the mix--which I would bet good money that at least one is in this game--and that number goes up.

Don't assume we have a plethora of investigative roles at our disposal just because Dexter works at the Miami PD. If we lynch a VT, we can look at those pushing for the lynch, whether voting or not, and put them under the microscope on D2.

I find it odd that earlier you noted that the last game had no vanillas and you would expect this to be the same, and now you're all "don't kill the vanillas!" As I stated before, I find the flavor surrounding their claims to be suspect. But flavor aside, I flat out don't believe jonty's claim. Last Dexter mafia there were no vanillas, and this game the first claim is vanilla? Hmmm.
I just wanted to respond to the two highlighted parts. I agree with the general opinion you express in the post, but your arguments are faulty.
The orange bit is faulty because 31% of mafia is still 69% of non-mafia, so lynching randomly because of a small chance of success is a poor reasoning. The reason we should lynch a VT, in my opinion, is that they didn't claim a power role, which makes chance of hitting scum closer to 50% or more.
The blue bit is faulty for two reasons. Firstly, it's logical to assume there are multiple power roles in this game, not only because of flavor but also because of the first version of this theme. Secondly, it is strange to support a lynch only to look at its supporters (which you will be among) during the next day. It looks as if you are implying that you are likely scum yourself, which I highly doubt is your intention.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby chapcrap on Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:57 pm

Alright, I've seen plenty of conversation and usual Day 1 stuff with not a lot of things standings out. For me, I think that BG claiming to be a red VT was the biggest thing in my book and I'm going to vote for that.

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:17 pm

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby / on Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:50 pm

Hm, I think that we should definitely avoid no lynches whenever possible.
I think that counterclaiming a color if scum is rather stupid, I'm inclined to believe it way have been a mistake, but am willing to switch votes if we can't reach a conclusion in my preference as it isn't a super strong name to claim to begin with.
I also have some reservations to jonty's claim, why would a little kid be out here lynching killers with us? it seems like a character that's likely to town, and unlikely to be in the game, in other words, it's what scum would want to fakeclaim.
Unvote vote Jonty

This is how the count should look I think, chuck was listed twice.


Bgthebrain (5)-Aage, Jonty, Chuck, LSUtiger, chapcrap
Jonty (5)-Iron butterfly, safari, shaggydan, epitaph, /
Epitaph (2) Vodean, BGthebrain


with 13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby / on Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:51 pm

/ wrote:Hm, I think that we should definitely avoid no lynches whenever possible.
I think that counterclaiming a color if scum is rather stupid, I'm inclined to believe it way have been a mistake, but am willing to switch votes if we can't reach a conclusion in my preference as it isn't a super strong name to claim to begin with.
I also have some reservations to jonty's claim, why would a little kid be out here lynching killers with us? it seems like a character that's likely to town, and unlikely to be in the game, in other words, it's what scum would want to fakeclaim.
Unvote vote Jonty

This is how the count should look I think, chuck was listed twice.


Bgthebrain (5)-Aage, Jonty, Chuck, LSUtiger, chapcrap
Jonty (5)-Iron butterfly, safari, shaggydan, epitaph, /
Epitaph (2) Vodean, BGthebrain


with 13 alive, 7 to lynch.

reded, sorry, was that in the rules?
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby strike wolf on Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:41 pm

strike wolf wrote:vote count

Chapcrap
Vodean (1)-BGthebrain
/
Chuck
Lsutigerjosh
aage
iron butterfly
Bgthebrain (5)-Aage, Jonty, Chuck, LSUtiger, chapcrap
Edocsil
Safariguy
Jonty (5)-Iron butterfly, safari, shaggydan, Epitaph, /
Epitaph (1)-Vodean
Shaggydan

with 13 alive, 7 to lynch.


Votes can be in bold, red or both.

Deadline was supposed to be coming up but since I am too tired to get a scene out and activity has been fairly consistent. I'm extending it 24 hours.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby edocsil on Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:42 am

Epitaph1 wrote:@edoc. Wash your hands of this day if you will, but lynching is the town's only guaranteed weapon against the mafia. Assuming we have 3 or 4 mafia, we have between a 23% - 31% chance of getting a mafia randomly on D1. I would submit that our chances are even higher since we've had time to feel out some of the players receiving votes. Throw 3rd parties into the mix--which I would bet good money that at least one is in this game--and that number goes up.

Don't assume we have a plethora of investigative roles at our disposal just because Dexter works at the Miami PD. If we lynch a VT, we can look at those pushing for the lynch, whether voting or not, and put them under the microscope on D2.

I find it odd that earlier you noted that the last game had no vanillas and you would expect this to be the same, and now you're all "don't kill the vanillas!" As I stated before, I find the flavor surrounding their claims to be suspect. But flavor aside, I flat out don't believe jonty's claim. Last Dexter mafia there were no vanillas, and this game the first claim is vanilla? Hmmm.


I don't care how you twist it, odds are more in the favor of hanging a townie. Strike has a bit less town power then some, but this is definitely power role mafia. We have night actions in spades, I have zero doubt of that.

I did not believe a single VT claim. Two VT claims however is totally different, especially when one was too stupid to be a fake. No offense intended with that, but as scum, that move would be retarded, even considering all wifom options.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby jonty125 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:40 am

/ wrote:I also have some reservations to jonty's claim, why would a little kid be out here lynching killers with us?


Well as Dexter's step-son, maybe I want to follow in my dad's footsteps?? I find it interesting that a captain, is only a VT? Surely he would be near the front of the queue for PR's.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby Epitaph1 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:09 am

@aage: My first point of the two quotes you highlighted was that we have a decent chance of hitting a scum or third party, although it's not more-likely-than-not, and that lynching is the only guaranteed weapon we have to killing a scum. My second point was that we shouldn't rely on investigative roles that we aren't sure that we have--we're just assuming (or hoping) we have them.

But I guess, like you said, the consensus is that this game is chalk full of power roles, which makes 2 VT claims all the more perplexing.

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/ wrote:I also have some reservations to jonty's claim, why would a little kid be out here lynching killers with us?


Well as Dexter's step-son, maybe I want to follow in my dad's footsteps?? I find it interesting that a captain, is only a VT? Surely he would be near the front of the queue for PR's.


I agree with jonty's point about the captain being a VT, but his point about Cody following Dexter's footsteps wouldn't follow the flavor either. Can anyone from the first Dexter mafia tell me how closely the game matched the show? I don't want to get too carried away comparing this to Season 2 if there's no point.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby BGtheBrain on Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:39 am

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby ShaggyDan on Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:44 am

Esocsil wrote:I did not believe a single VT claim. Two VT claims however is totally different, especially when one was too stupid to be a fake. No offense intended with that, but as scum, that move would be retarded, even considering all wifom options.


So you think they are either too valuable to expose their roles, or.scum? I fail to see how the claim of a child which (to the best of my knowledge) is a minor character with little ability is too powerful to have to fakeclaim. Also even though you say it was "too retarded" to be a mistake that is a possibility we have to consider. It could not be a pm-issue and actually be indicitive of something deeper (I don't believe this but it still strikes me as a valid point).

So that puts jonty at L-1 and BG at L-2. I still believe a lynch is the best point of order and although I think the better option is jonty I am inclined to shift if BG goes to L-1. Will be on within 12 hours.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby ShaggyDan on Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:45 am

Edit; just realised I may have misinterpreted that post. I saw it as you don't believe either person is telling the truth. But after re-reading it I can see I got that one wrong. My bad.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby edocsil on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:20 am

ShaggyDan wrote:Edit; just realised I may have misinterpreted that post. I saw it as you don't believe either person is telling the truth. But after re-reading it I can see I got that one wrong. My bad.


Yes, I trust the VT's more than trust the other players in the game ATM. Could they be lying? Of course, But I suspect they are not. If I had to pick one more likely to be liar it would be Jonty, but the kid and Dexter's relationship is a very large part of this season.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2 sign ups. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby strike wolf on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:01 pm

vote count

Chapcrap
Vodean
/
Chuck
Lsutigerjosh
aage
iron butterfly
Bgthebrain (5)-Aage, Jonty, Chuck, LSUtiger, chapcrap
Edocsil
Safariguy
Jonty (6)-Iron butterfly, safari, shaggydan, Epitaph, /, bgthebrain
Epitaph (1)-Vodean
Shaggydan
with 13 alive, 7 to lynch. Jonty at l-1

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby BGtheBrain on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:06 pm

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby aage on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:15 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:Well.
Vodeon or Edoc?

I thought I saw Edoc post in the vacation thread.

Who is Vodeon?

Anyway, I don't want to risk deadlining. unvote vote jonty, 50/50 is still good odds.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby strike wolf on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:26 pm

*counting on both hands* that's a lynch. I'll try to get the scene up in the next 30 minutes. If not than it'll have to wait until after I get back from the movies.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 13/13. D1. A Warning

Postby strike wolf on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:41 pm

They were all gathered together in one spot. The news had swept the town and everyone was looking to get some answers about this supposed serial killer killer who had been dropping the bodies off. All with different opinions about what should be done and who it could be. Finally one boy stepped from the crowd.

"why don't we pressure the least active?" As he presented them a list of those who had been quiet during the arguments. "We might find something."

Before anyone could answer another person stepped forward from the crowd. "I don't like this plan. There's a lot of people quiet. He's just trying to buy time. He's guilty!"

"what no. I'm Cody Bennett." The boy cried. "I'm just an innocent child."

The town was hesitant to get someone who seemed so young especially as another suspicious source seemed to pop up but as the sun began to set, the crowd grew more and more restless and eventually the young boy was rushed by the crowd.

As the scene calmed, the damage done...the crowd looked at what they had done and thought..."He's awfully big for a child."

Jonty-Little Chino-1-shot BP Serial Killer has been lynched.

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(he's the guy on the left)

While this was happening the crowd failed to notice various people slipping away in anticipation of the night.

It's now N1 you will have 72 hours to get actions into me.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 12/13. N1: A Little Boy and a Machete

Postby strike wolf on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:30 am

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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 12/13. N1: A Little Boy and a Machete

Postby chapcrap on Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:13 pm

FYI, I'm in the middle of moving right now and don't actually have internet at home for a couple of days...so, that's why I will be quiet at the beginning of the day.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 12/13. N1: A Little Boy and a Machete

Postby strike wolf on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Firelit Dawn

The town settled in peacefully that night feeling secure that there would be one less kill tonight with Little Chino off the streets. For some they did sleep very easily with nothing to do. For others their nights had just begun.

One woman was sitting in her car, watching someone she thought she knew through her window. She was there for a bit but she still needed to get her children home for dinner and couldn't stay long. She drove off back as the sun had crested the horizon. Everything went normal at first. SHe went in ahead of her children to get things ready for dinner when she noticed the shadow behind her.

"What are you doing in my house?" Rita Bennett asked scared. She looked to escape but the woman was between her and the door...maybe she could force her way past her. At least until she noticed the blow torch in the woman's hand.

"You aren't to get between us." The woman said and just as quickly set the house on fire.

It spread surprisingly quickly, barely allowing the assailant time to get away herself. By the time the fire trucks arrived it was already over.

Aage-Rita Bennett-Town Watcher has been killed.

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People gathered on the street, unaware how to react to the blaze. One man in the crowd especially could not understand what to do. He knew the woman personally....should be grieving but he was never good with his emotions. He would take it out alright. Hopefully tonight he could find the one who had done this.

He set out on his usual route. He had a target. He hadn't completed the code but that didn't seem as relevant to him at the moment, he was riding on impulse. He had to do something and he had to do it now. He waited for his victim to turn out the lights and when they did, he made his move. He was quick and efficient in his moves but he made a key mistake...

For the victim, the brief struggle was over before he knew it. For the killer the internal struggle was just beginning. He recognized the man but it was not the target he had chosen. It was too late now...the man had seen his face when he attacked and even if he hadn't a crime investigation would not work to his advantage...he had to finish what he started and he had to clean up the scene.

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Frank Lundy woke up in a well lit...surprisingly clean room. he tried to move but quickly realized that he was tied down.

"In my line of work, I'd be lying if I never imagined that my target may get me before I got him" He said as calmly as possible. "I just never thought you'd be the one. I guess I was wrong."

"Don't take it personally." The man said. "I'm actually kind of a fan of your work and well...this is unusual but I can't let you go back to the police. Rule #1 Don't get caught."

"So I guess...there's no point convincing you to let me go." Lundy said.

"No. Not really" He said, preparing his first knife. "But if you want to chat, we can. No one will hear you but I always do enjoy spending some quality talks with you."

"You know the investigation isn't going to end just because I'm dead." he responded.

"No and again I am sorry it came to this but you understand I hope." The man said. He paused waiting for a response but it didn't come. "normally I'd take a trophy but...well you're not exactly my type and I'm afraid that I don't have all night to spend with you."

Lundy remained quiet. He knew he should keep talking but his throat felt dry and he was suddenly at a loss for words. The cold calm from a moment prior disappearing. He saw the man stand over with the knife and he closed his eyes before it came down.

Shaggydan-Frank Lundy-Town FBI agent (flavor investigator/1-shot cop has been killed.

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The town gathered together...the case was bigger than ever. An FBI agent...dead and their were still no clues as to the identity of the killer. Homicide was in turmoil.

Day 2 begins0
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 10/13. Day 2: Firelit Dawn

Postby ShaggyDan on Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:34 am

Bummer. I was looking forward to playing a cop for once. GG. Go town!
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 10/13. Day 2: Firelit Dawn

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:14 am

Normally deadline would be next Saturday but I don't want it to be over the weekend. So I'm aiming for Monday.
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