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mrswdk wrote:
btw i am not been srs about dis
notyou2 wrote:I have an idea. Lets put all the Karels et al in a large building with their weapons and unlimited rounds and see if any of them come out alive.
Dukasaur wrote:mrswdk wrote:Dukasaur wrote:
For 80 years we've had laws regarding licensing, inspections, and mandatory liability insurance for the other great killer, the automobile, and as yet nobody has tried confiscating all the cars. In fact, there are more of them every year.
The slippery slope argument is bunk.
They've confiscated your freedom to drive at top speeds. Once self-driving cars become commonplace they will confiscate your manual cars, and eventually everyone will be getting transported around in autonomous pods that the police can hijack, lock and director to their killing camps while you bang on the inside screaming for help except no one can hear you.
Yes, we lack the freedom to drive on our local highway as if we were on driving the Le Mans Grand Prix. On the other hand, we are more or less free to choose our favourite route to work. Which is precisely my point -- it isn't all-or-nothing. It isn't a choice between absolute unrestricted freedom and total subjugation to regimentation. We can decide, as a social democratic society, to curb some of the more dangerous freedoms while retaining others.
As for the self-driving cars and the next step in loss of independence: that's a little beyond the scope of this thread, but, yes it will happen, except nobody will confiscate your car. Consumers will gradually choose the convenience of auto-auto over the hassles of doing it yourself. A few crabby old men like me will hold out, growling "I'm smarter than those idiot robots" and continue doing it ourselves until the end, while our grandchildren laugh at us. You probably carry around a police tracking device right now. It's called your cell phone, and the police have the ability to tap into it and see where you are right now. You can disable the GPS functions, except almost nobody does. The vast majority of people choose convenience over privacy. They let their phones broadcast their location so that they can order a pizza or a taxi faster, and so it will go with the auto-autos. People will have the option to retain that particular freedom, but for the sake of convenience they will willingly choose to give it up.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Punishing a majority for a minority is never a great answer. Again, completely understand that changes need to be made, but taking away all firearms from every single citizen should be a complete last resort.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Great answers for this would be educating people in the use and safety of firearms. If everyone is as gun-ho as they say they are, this should make sense. Your kid learns how to properly use a gun that every American has a right to until they prove otherwise. No big deal to me, right? Of course you'll have conspirator loons and skeptics of the worst kind ruin what could be a potentially good thing; "America is militarizing our children!"
DirtyDishSoap wrote:The other great answer to this as mentioned above with "prove otherwise" are those that are mentally ill. If you trust a man with severe PTSD coming home from several wars with a firearm, you're putting a lot of faith into them. Everyone does of course have the right to defend themselves, but I wouldn't risk everyone's safety over that one man who could prove to be incredibly more dangerous than your everyday home burglar. You can free up the healthcare all you'd like, but it doesn't magically cure someone of their PTSD, or their autism, or from being a psychopath. We already can see a pattern with these mass shootings that folks like Cruz who exhibited enough for a concern prior to the shooting, Devin Patrick Kelley, a veteran and shooter of the Sutherland Springs Church suffered some serious mental issues, Chris Harper-Mercer also suffered from being mentally ill. Umpqua Community College shooter, will cause harm to others if given the opportunity. Why give them it?
Those are all incredibly recent.
Of those, the two that I glossed over from recent memory is the Las Vegas shooter, which just happens to be one random guy with no criminal or mental health history, and the Orlando club shooter whom was, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:One very last issue that I have is with the media. Not with false reportings, but naming the shooter, covering it extensively, death/casualty toll, etc. A lime light for these sick fucks just so one more loon can look at the news and say "hold my beer, watch this."
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:Long post
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I'd even be butt hurt because if I were in those folks shoes, busting a nut and a half to become a heart surgeon, and were told that I'd have to live in an apartment because healthcare is now free and the taxes don't cover my wage and yada yada yada....Get my point on this?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Neoteny wrote:Long post
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
warmonger1981 wrote:Let's quit selling kids the idea that college is a must. Most get worthless degrees. Then stay in debt for years with a worthless degrees.
karel wrote:so these kids walked out of class to protest,they should all be expelled from school,they do not have a right to walk down road,slowing traffic down
karel wrote:so these kids walked out of class to protest,they should all be expelled from school,they do not have a right to walk down road,slowing traffic down
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
mrswdk wrote:What would you have done if you were driving down that road, karel?
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