The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly Harris vs. Trump

[saxitoxin]

The last time I posted on this thread Saxi, of course, ignored my point that slightly more people voted for Republicans nationwide because of the gerrymandering and unopposed candidates.

Democrats when they lose: "We got less votes than you because you cheated in the elections and their entire structural makeup was fundamentally unfair and came down to dirty tricks."
Democrats when they win: "If anyone dares spread the fake news that the elections were unfair or involved dirty tricks then they're a domestic terrorist! Democracy is on the line! It's the Big Lie!"

[saxitoxin]

LOL!

Every sodomite I know hates Mayor Pete. And I know LOTS of them. His candidacy is DOA if he can't even get his own affinity group nailed down. He's basically like the gay Kamala.

Saxi is amusing. When I want to hear the opinions of gay Democrats he is the PERFECT person to ask.

yes king, bc im fierce and i slay

[mookiemcgee]

LOL!

Every sodomite I know hates Mayor Pete. And I know LOTS of them. His candidacy is DOA if he can't even get his own affinity group nailed down. He's basically like the gay Kamala.

Saxi is amusing. When I want to hear the opinions of gay Democrats he is the PERFECT person to ask.

yes king, bc im fierce and i slay

Get it girl

[saxitoxin]

LOL!

Every sodomite I know hates Mayor Pete. And I know LOTS of them. His candidacy is DOA if he can't even get his own affinity group nailed down. He's basically like the gay Kamala.

Saxi is amusing. When I want to hear the opinions of gay Democrats he is the PERFECT person to ask.

yes king, bc im fierce and i slay

Get it girl

[jusplay4fun]

It is premature to discuss Trump's likely VP choice since Trump has yet to show the he WILL be the nominee.

As I have said often and previously, Trump has pissed off TOO MANY to make himself ELECTABLE in the General Election in 2024, despite his FALSE claims of election fraud. Trump may be the nominee of the GOP, but cannot win the General Election, not with 30-40% who WILL NOT vote for him and at least 10% Likely NOT to vote for him.

[saxitoxin]

Who should President Trump select as Vice-President for the 2024-2028 term?

I'm leaning to Vivek Ramaswamy, however, he hasn't renounced Hinduism yet and doesn't have much time. Then again, we've now had two Catholic presidents, so I guess anything is possible. Politico says he's angling for the White House.

There's also Josh Hawley who is famously well-endowed.

With Tom Cotton you get a military hero, however, his long neck is off-putting to some people.

Daniel Cameron played collegiate football which is a plus but making the jump from Attorney General of Kentucky to Vice President seems like a big leap.

MTG would be a disaster. If we're handing a box of dynamite to Trump, someone not quite as excitable needs to hold the detonator.

Others?

[jimboston]

Who should President Trump select as Vice-President for the 2024-2028 term?

I'm leaning to Vivek Ramaswamy, however, he hasn't renounced Hinduism yet and doesn't have much time. Then again, we've now had two Catholic presidents, so I guess anything is possible. Politico says he's angling for the White House.

There's also Josh Hawley who is famously well-endowed.

With Tom Cotton you get a military hero, however, his long neck is off-putting to some people.

Daniel Cameron played collegiate football which is a plus but making the jump from Attorney General of Kentucky to Vice President seems like a big leap.

MTG would be a disaster. If we're handing a box of dynamite to Trump, someone not quite as excitable needs to hold the detonator.

Others?

George Santos…

then he can honestly claim he’s not the biggest liar in the Administration.

[saxitoxin]

FEINSTEIN REMOVED FROM OFFICE!

97 year-old California Senator Dianne Feinstein's staff, who have been patiently waiting for her to die, finally got tired and put out a statement announcing she'd retired -

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public ... DE7181D372

Hours later, when asked about her retirement by reporters, she said she wasn't aware she had retired and no one had told her. A staff member then leaned in and politely told her she was now retired and would be leaving the Senate in 2024. She sadly nodded and said "I should have known" before the staff member wheeled her away.

https://twitter.com/SavBehrmannDC/statu ... 9619260437

Just a typical Wednesday in the party of youth and progress.

[jimboston]

FEINSTEIN REMOVED FROM OFFICE!

97 year-old California Senator Dianne Feinstein's staff, who have been patiently waiting for her to die, finally got tired and put out a statement announcing she'd retired -

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public ... DE7181D372

Hours later, when asked about her retirement by reporters, she said she wasn't aware she had retired and no one had told her. A staff member then leaned in and politely told her she was now retired and would be leaving the Senate in 2024. She sadly nodded and said "I should have known" before the staff member wheeled her away.

https://twitter.com/SavBehrmannDC/statu ... 9619260437

Just a typical Wednesday in the party of youth and progress.

Term Limits

[ConfederateSS]

--------Some History about The Great Jackle Robinson...The SOUTH had Strong Black Communities,that Scared the Democratic Party,that is why they broke it up... Sending Black kids to White schools...Except, no one talks about...All Black Schools out Scoring All White schools...When this took place... Interesting???...Why didn't White kids go to all Black Schools???...
----------- Anyway.... Jackie Robinson always voted Republican,...When the 3 people were killed in Mississippi...Nixon didn't go, and he said he didn't go, because he didn't want to make it political.... Jackie Robinson said, that is when he started voting Democrat...
------------ As the Entire Biden Administration avoids going, talking about..the train disaster...Biden at the State of the Union...when he actually talked about not forgetting the forgotten people.... Yesterday actually talking about railroads.... Harris when giving a speech on the Environment....Boodie...when talking about infrastructure,signing checks to Detroit, Philly...
------ EPA,FEMA is spitting in those people's faces...
------------- Trump needs to go to Ohio...help those people,and Pennsylvania...Since The Biden Administration ignores every day Americans... Nixon,Jackie Robinson things shake people up...Trump's voters are the forgotten people...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
---------Like after Hurricane Katrina....Miller co. sent water in 40 and 32oz...beer bottles to New Orleans,and surrounding areas...

[mookiemcgee]

------------- Trump needs to go to Ohio...help those people,and Pennsylvania...Since The Biden Administration ignores every day Americans... Nixon,Jackie Robinson things shake people up...Trump's voters are the forgotten people...[/size]... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
---------Like after Hurricane Katrina....Miller co. sent water in 40 and 32oz...beer bottles to New Orleans,and surrounding areas...

I don't think Trump plans to go talk in Ohio, because a bunch of reporters will ask him why he rescinded the rule put in place during Obama that required trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes which could have prevented this disaster.

It's not a great look for Trump, this is all his fault and it's his own voters he's poisoned.

[saxitoxin]

------------- Trump needs to go to Ohio...help those people,and Pennsylvania...Since The Biden Administration ignores every day Americans... Nixon,Jackie Robinson things shake people up...Trump's voters are the forgotten people...[/size]... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
---------Like after Hurricane Katrina....Miller co. sent water in 40 and 32oz...beer bottles to New Orleans,and surrounding areas...

I don't think Trump plans to go talk in Ohio, because a bunch of reporters will ask him why he rescinded the rule put in place during Obama that required trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes which could have prevented this disaster.

It's not a great look for Trump, this is all his fault and it's his own voters he's poisoned.

Also, the British invented trains so no chance King Charles will go either. Would be a bad look.

Biden has supposedly been president for more than two years. Why didn't he reinstate the rule if it was so critical? Did he agree with Trump or is he incompetent? I'm having a hard time imagining what other possibilities exist.

[Doc_Brown]

rescinded the rule put in place during Obama that required trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes which could have prevented this disaster.

Can you point to anything to back this up? I ask as a genuine question not from an adversarial perspective. All the articles I've found so far that mention ECP in the context of this event are not saying that ECP would have prevented it from happening. I see politicians making the claim to score political points, but I can't find anything that talks about the actual cause of the derailment that can describe how ECP would have helped. The news articles (as opposed to editorials) more or less say that Trump's removal of the rule to have ECP (at the request of the rail lines themselves, who will be the ones to bear much of the cleanup and mitigation cost in this case) increases the likelihood of incidents of this sort, but they aren't willing to assign blame for this incident.

[saxitoxin]

FETTERMAN SENT TO INSANE ASYLUM!

A day after Senator Dianne Feinstein was forced out of office by her own staff, Senator John Fetterman has been "voluntarily" confined to an insane asylum.

Fetterman is receiving care on a voluntary basis and went to the hospital after evaluation from Brian Monahan, attending physician of the U.S. Congress, according to the statement.

While it’s the Pennsylvania senator’s first public admission to mental health treatment, his other health challenges became a frequent subject during his campaign. He suffered a significant stroke during his bid for the Senate, which forced him off the campaign trail for several months and affected his auditory processing.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/1 ... n-00083286

Notably, ever since Fetterman's elevation to the Senate he's stopped wearing his "everyman" costume.

Just another weekday in the party of sane professionals!

[ConfederateSS]

--------Who's Fault.....Maybe The Train Company....
---------- Shouldn't it be up to Norfolk Southern to examine their train cars???
----------- Who's bright idea was it to...dig a trench...throw shit in...spark up a Cloud of Death....Instead of properly cleaning it up...without a Death Cloud???.... NORFOLK SOUTHERN...They will get off Scott Free, thanks to Lobbing the SWAMP.....Which Trump is trying to take down...With a 4 year intermission...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[HitRed]

In 2014 the U.S. Federal Railroad Administration proposed that electronic braking be required on trains carrying hazardous materials. The Donald Trump administration repealed the proposed rule.[19]

[mookiemcgee]

rescinded the rule put in place during Obama that required trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes which could have prevented this disaster.

Can you point to anything to back this up? I ask as a genuine question not from an adversarial perspective. All the articles I've found so far that mention ECP in the context of this event are not saying that ECP would have prevented it from happening. I see politicians making the claim to score political points, but I can't find anything that talks about the actual cause of the derailment that can describe how ECP would have helped. The news articles (as opposed to editorials) more or less say that Trump's removal of the rule to have ECP (at the request of the rail lines themselves, who will be the ones to bear much of the cleanup and mitigation cost in this case) increases the likelihood of incidents of this sort, but they aren't willing to assign blame for this incident.

Nothing I've found says it would have prevented the derailment, only that it would have mitigated the severity of the disaster. The only named expert source I've found is Steven Ditmeyer, I'm sure all the different news articles are just circlejerking the same quotes he gave 'The Lever'.

Of course the railway companies didn't want to spend the money to install these brakes and asked Trump to remove the requirement. That's why gov't regulations exist, to force private companies to act in a way that protects citizens even if it makes doing business more expensive.

Irrespective of all of this, it's a bad look for Trump to show up in Ohio and give speeches right now. That was my main point.

[mookiemcgee]

In 2014 the U.S. Federal Railroad Administration proposed that electronic braking be required on trains carrying hazardous materials. The Donald Trump administration repealed the proposed rule.[19]

You can play word games if you want hitred, but the brakes would have been in place on this train if Trump had not repealed the rule in 2017/18.

"When [the National Transportation Safety Board] completes its investigation of the cause of the derailment, which is still being investigated, [the Federal Railroad Administration] and [the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration] will look to the investigation results and use all relevant authorities to ensure accountability and improve safety," a DOT spokesperson told Fox News Digital on Wednesday.

"On the rule, in 2015, Republicans in the House and Senate required a cost-benefit analysis that allowed for the Trump administration to repeal the rule in 2017 and now makes it challenging to reinstate the rule in its previous configuration — due to threats of litigation and opposition in Congress," the statement continued.

"After the 2015 rule was issued, the rule including the RIA was challenged in 5 different Federal Circuits, and Congress quickly moved to vitiate the rule, making it more difficult under the Administrative Procedure Act to revisit the basis for advancing a rule. However, pending the results of the investigation into the derailment, FRA and PHMSA will evaluate action to prevent this from happening again."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-b ... onstrained

[saxitoxin]

Biden admin turns down Ohio's request for disaster assistance after toxic derailment

The Biden administration turned down a request for federal disaster assistance from Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine in the aftermath of the train derailment in the state earlier this month that led to a large release of toxic chemicals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... derailment

What a gift! Sherrod Brown's seat was looking like an easy Senate pick-up for the GOP in 21 months; this should seal the deal.

[saxitoxin]

Actual train track in Ohio in Biden's America, after the passage of Biden's Infrastructure Act, and following Democratic presidents in 10 of the last 14 years.

Yeah, everything would have been fine if they had better brakes.



And, yes, interstate railways are federal -- not state -- responsibility.

[mookiemcgee]

And, yes, interstate railways are federal -- not state -- responsibility.

This just in, Saxi supports increased federal spending. Tax the rich he says!

[saxitoxin]

This just in: the Mayor of East Palestine says he has had no contact from Secretary of Transportation Twunkle B. Twink and that yesterday - nearly two weeks after the derailment - was the first time he heard anything from the White House.

Guess Old Joe was too busy directing F22s to shoot down 7th graders' science projects.

The TV ads for the '24 Senate race are writing themselves ... dead man walking ...

[ConfederateSS]

--------It happened in South Carolina by Norfolk Southern In 2005 A.D.. also.....It happened today in Michigan near Detroit...no over spill of chemicals.....
---------- Boodie took a picture with his buddy Norfolk Southern President Alan Shaw....Boodie also says , don't worry there are a 1,000 train derails a year.... Don't worry... ....As Shaw slips money in Boodie's pocket... .... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[saxitoxin]

THIS JUST IN!

President Trump announces he will arrive in East Palestine, Ohio next week to conduct a needs assessment of the community. President Trump made his decision after Biden declined to conduct a visit or provide any other aid or assistance. It's believed Biden's faltering, failing health is behind his inability to leave Washington, D.C.

President Trump will be welcomed by Governor DeWine and Mayor Conaway who will provide him with a briefing on the disaster and tour him through the cleanup site. He will also conduct an aerial observation of cleanup efforts from an Ohio National Guard helicopter Governor DeWine has put at his disposal.

Thank you, President Trump!