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OCTOPOD Threshold [New TO] [Winner: Bigragooch]

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:17 pm

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Winner after the play-off: Bigragooch

Semifinals, final standings
(If something isn't clear, don't hesitate to ask)

Group A
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Group B
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Blue colour of certain numbers means that some points have been subtracted par forfait
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:18 pm

Hello! I wanted to make a tournament with minimal involvement of luck, so if you played well, you should have a good chance to win. However, there is a price - many games (eight per round) and somewhat (but nor really) complicated rules/criteria. So if you prefer plain, simple, "only winner advances" tourneys; a tourneys you can luckily win by winning 3 games only - this tournament is probably not for you.
This tournament is for players who don't afraid of serious testing of their skills. For players who enjoy complex positions on the playing board as well as complex situations on the tournament table... For players who find slightly complicated rules/criteria more interesting than dreadful, rather funny than annoying... For players who are not afraid of long introduction posts :mrgreen: 8)...

Yes, this post looks dreadfully long. There isn't much content, but I like neatly organized texts, so I am pressing enter a lot :ugeek:... Wanting to make this post more reader friendly, I am giving a table of contents:

Further Sections:
1. Apology to players who can't play
2. General information about the tournament
3. First round (all you should know about it)
4. Second round (semifinals)
5. Third round (finals)
6. Additional information (important - don't miss it)

WHO CAN AND WHO CAN'T PLAY

I like tournaments which guarantee you to play at least several games before they bust you. Unfortunately, such tourneys are not freemium friendly, since you usually have to play several games simultaneously. I was thinking for months, trying to find a nice solution - a tourney I'd really like, but with no more than 2 slots engaged. I haven't succeeded yet :(... I mean, I have some ideas, but they aren't ripe yet. Hope I'll succeed in a future...
This tournament requires 8 slots, so it's for premium members only. Sorry :(
There is also a problem of really weak players, below 900 score. Some tournaments allow them to play, some not. I've been happy to see many, new, special tourneys - for cooks only, for privates only, for question marks... That encouraged me to set few more conditions - at least 900 score and at least 5 games finished. Therefore:
This tournament is for premium members, with at least 900 score (at the moment of joining) and at least 5 games finished. My apologies to everyone not included...

GENERAL INTRODUCTION

This is an 8 players singles tournament. I am planning 40 participants, but it is a summer... So in case of insufficient interest, we'll make it with 32, 24, maybe even 16 players. In any case, 2nd (semifinal) round will have 16 players.

Participants will be divided (by score) in 5 (or less, see previous paragraph) roughly equal 8 players groups. Each group will play 8 simultaneous games (home ground of each player). All games will be standard sequential, without fog, while rest of the settings (map, cards, fortifications) everybody chooses for oneself.
Every place, in every game, carries some points: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 13, 18
(First eliminated gets 1 point... last eliminated gets 13 points, winner gets 18 points)

FIRST ROUND

16 best placed players will qualify for second round. However, some subtleties depend of the number of groups, so I have to cover all possible options:

a) 40 participants, 5 groups

Three best placed players from each group are directly qualified. The last remaining place in 2nd round goes to player with most points (already qualified players of course don't count).

b) 32 participants, 4 groups

Again, three best placed players from each group are directly qualified. This time, 4 places remain. Four (not already qualified) players with most points qualify.
Note that 4th place doesn't guarantee you pass to 2nd round. Nor does 5th (or even lower!) place guarantee that you're out. Just collect as much points as you can!

c) 24 participants, 3 groups

Four best placed players from each group are directly qualified. Four of the remaining players with most points also advance.

d) 16 participants, 2 groups

We go directly to second round.

Tie break criteria
If a players have same number of points, best placed is player who has:
1. most wins
2. most points in 7 last games

SECOND ROUND (semifinals)

This time there are 2 groups precisely. Groups play 8 simultaneous games each, just like in first round. Eight best placed players qualify to finals.
Three best placed players from each group directly go to finals. Two remaining places go to players with most points.

If there is still somebody who doesn't understand the system - this is a last chance. If you aren't qualified directly, number of points matters more than placement in your group. So, if you're 5th in your group, but you have more points than 4th in another group - you are the one who qualifies, not him/her. So one more time - collect as much points as you can!

Tie break criteria
If a players have same number of points, best placed is player who has:
1. most points overall (1st round included)
2. most wins
3. most points in 7 last games (in this round)

THIRD ROUND (finals)

Only 8 players left. They'll play 8 simultaneous games, the very same way as from the beginning of tournament.
Does that mean a player with most points in final is a definite winner of the tournament? Well, not quite...
Let me define a notion - THRESHOLD. Threshold is an average point difference between winner and a runner up in all previous groups.
So if you won a final league competition with point difference bigger than threshold - it's all over. You're the champion! However, if the point difference is insufficient (i.e. smaller than threshold), then you'll have to play a super-final play off match against the runner up.

(possible) Play Off
If the threshold hasn't been broken, a winner and runner up will play a 4 games play off match, 2 games by each players' choice. Winner of this match is a winner of the tournament.
This time you can choose even freestyle and/or fogged games, IF an opponent agrees. In case of even result (2:2), a fifth, decisive game will be played. Who chooses settings? A better placed player.

Additional Criteria
A better placed player is the one who has:
1. more points in final group
2. more points overall (from the beginning)
3. more points in semifinals
If players are still tied (which is extremely unlikely), the one who first wins 2 games in play off will have a privilege to choose settings for 5th game.
(There is a theoretical possibility that more than two players have to play superfinals, but if I try to solve all possible complications in advance - this post will exceed a capacity of CC server... Perhaps I've been over-pedant already.)

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (important!!)

Map Choice
Eight players is actually pretty many! Although such games are popular, we still can't say that they are typical. So you shouldn't be surprised if I say - you cant choose every map! Some maps aren't even theoretically usable for more than 6 players (AoR, Feudal War...). So you, naturally, can't choose some of those. There are further restrictions, also very natural:
You can't choose a map with less than 40 countries (I'd gladly say "less than 56", but that would exclude Classic, which is of course out of the question). So, thanks to Classic (and other old, widely beloved maps), you may choose somewhat smallish map, but not too small. Do I have to explain the reasons?
You may not choose a new map with bugs! Especially if that bugs are known in certain circles, but not widely...

If you choose inadequate map, you may and may not be warned - everybody is responsible for his/her choice of map. I am certainly not going to check all maps. So if your map proves inadequate after the game is initialized - it will be void and you'll probably be out of tournament. Double check whether your map is suitable for this tournament!

Proper Registration
You registration should contain your current score and preferred settings. For example:
Zemljanin - 2483, Prohibition Chicago, flat rate, chained
Why have I made separate section, just to say something so obvious? Well, because of score. For practical reasons, I'm going to use your score in the moment of joining for making groups (by SNAKE method). So if you didn't provide your score, you actually haven't joined...

No alliances allowed!
Natural measures against an obvious game leader are normal thing. But nothing more than that!

Flows of This Post
Well, it is my very first tournament. And English is not my native language. So I'm sure that this tournament announcement is far from perfect. If something is missing or unclear or unnaturally written - do not hesitate to ASK!
See ya on battlefield! :D
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:19 pm

PARTICIPANTS
1. heatz - 1274, Classic, flat rate, unlimited
2. plurple - 1073, World 2.1, escalating, unlimited
3. ultraman - 1595, CCU, flat rate, chained
4. MuzzaG - 1785, Middle Earth, flat rate, chained
5. Lucifer40 - 908, USA, flat rate, chained
6. hwhrhett - 2349, CCU, escalating, chained
7. taggat - 1001, Solar System, flat rate, chained
8. Zemljanin - 2483, Prohibition Chicago, flat rate, chained
9. KidWhisky - 1838, Pearl Harbor, flat rate, unlimited
10. bigdaddyslim - 1675, Pearl Harbor, no cards, chained
11. reahma - 1769, Canada, flat rate, chained
12. spidey - 1542, San Francisco, chained, escalating
13. TaCktiX - 1295, Treasures of Galapagos, ?, ?
14. leolou2 - 1022, USA, flat rate, chained
15. Evil Semp - 1541 points, Siege!, flat rate, adjacent
16. Dominator7 - 1641, Waterloo, escalating, adjacent
17. Bigragooch - 2247, New World, flat rate, chained
18. Aesop Jones - 1481, San Francisco, No Cards, Unlimited
19. mkcummins - 1207, Bamboo Jack, flat rate, unlimited
20. zissou2 - 1780, Classic, escalating, chained
21. OliverFA - 1041, Classic, Flat Rate, Unlimited
22. danodukebb - 1560, Classic, flat rate, chained
23. R0k0v - 1560, New World, Escalating, Unlimited
24. buddylee1998 - 1400, U.S. Senate, flat rate, chained
25. braddersp - 1426, Classic, escalating, chained

RESERVES
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:19 pm

Results of the first round

Group A, final standings
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Group B, final standings
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Group C, final standings
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:20 pm

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:21 pm

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby heatz on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:05 pm

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:34 am

heatz wrote:heatz 1274 classic unlimited flat rate

You're in
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby plurple on Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:18 am

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby hwhrhett on Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:40 pm

im in.
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament

Postby Zemljanin on Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:38 am

hwhrhett wrote:im in.

You are welcome, hwhrhett, but you're not quite in... You didn't provide your rating and preferences - map, cards, fortifications.

plurple, you're in
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby ultraman on Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:26 am

I'll play

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:43 am

You're in, ultraman.

hwhrhett, you are reserve, until you provide needed data...
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby MuzzaG on Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:09 am

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Lucifer4o on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:29 am

in...rating 908...map usa, flat, chained, no fog :roll:
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby taggat on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:17 am

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:16 pm

MuzzaG and Lucifer40 - you are in

taggat, have you checked whether an 8 player is possible on AOR 3? I think that there is only 6 castles and Sanctuary...

Please, check it! I put you as reserve for now...
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:24 pm

hwhrhett just PM-ed me his home setting - ccu escalating chained.

So he's in now
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:51 pm

taggat had an inadequate map (AoR3). He's new choice is Solar System, so he's in now
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby KidWhisky on Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:50 pm

This sounds good I'm in

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:35 am

KidWhisky, you're in
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (taking sign ups)

Postby Zemljanin on Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:17 am

Hm, it would be difficult to join 40 players... If players don't start to join much faster, we'll have to play with 24, maybe even 16 participants...
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (9/16|9/24|9/32|9/40)*

Postby TaCktiX on Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:23 am

Add me in.
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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (9/16|9/24|9/32|9/40)*

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Re: OCTOPOD Threshold Tournament (9/16|9/24|9/32|9/40)*

Postby Zemljanin on Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:23 pm

TaCktiX wrote:Add me in.

I'll add you, off course. But you should provide data needed - your score and chosen map, cards and fortifications

bigdaddyslim2, you're virtually in. Just need to choose cards and fortifications for your home ground...
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