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[Ragian]

@ Ragian

and just because I argued and voted on you, it doesn't mean I'm scum.

I know. You can be wrong, too. That's why I'm urging you to reconsider.

unvote for your sake, Devante.

[Devante]

I want things set in motion prior to going into night so there should be a plan laid out for us to try and secure a town win. Right now a mislynch could easily cost town the game as we are down to 5 and only 3 town, 1 mafia and 1 3P

FP

[Devante]

@ Ragian

and just because I argued and voted on you, it doesn't mean I'm scum.

I know. You can be wrong, too. That's why I'm urging you to reconsider.

unvote for your sake, Devante.

Go ahead and leave your vote ragian, I initially thught the vote was on the same person but it was one each so that's fine, I expect me and Hal to coordinate prior to vote so just don't want two on anyone right now

[hjelp]

Then I'll unvote so we don't risk to get L-1

Unvote Ragian

[Devante]

at hjelp, did you request r investigation? doesn't seem you did as no one responded to you. Ask for Chalie's

[hjelp]

Correct, no one responded so I haven't.
I will request for Charle's.

[Loose Canon]

My investigation won't make much difference from now on in.
The one thing I was toying with doing with it was whether I could double test it's reliability from last night by maybe seeing what it gave me on say Halrob.
As things stand I know for either rag or Hjelp it will or should come guilty.
So now I'm thinking use it on whichever isn't lynched, that tests it's last night reliability too.

[Devante]

doesn't really make sense, if either one was still alive then why would you not be going for hjelp or ragian

[hjelp]

Meanwhile
@Ragian, you're acting like a confused cat.
Your role Ascetic, is it always on? or is it that you can use it once? or do you not have that role at all?

[hjelp]

[Loose Canon]

Maybe Devante, but I'm also wondering if there's a way that my result on you can have been wrong.
I've faced 2 cops, then 3 in this game for a while and an innocent result on Devon which was incorrect.
We've had a quack doctor now.
Right now I'm a bit dubious about what kind of town cop I am.
Have I been fed results or been getting random results?
But re you I'm more confident town based on Halrob than my maybe amateur sleuthing.
There's something about your interplay with Halrob that says town.

I don't have an answer right now who I'd investigate.

[Devante]

Maybe Devante, but I'm also wondering if there's a way that my result on you can have been wrong.
I've faced 2 cops, then 3 in this game for a while and an innocent result on Devon which was incorrect.
We've had a quack doctor now.
Right now I'm a bit dubious about what kind of town cop I am.
Have I been fed results or been getting random results?
But re you I'm more confident town based on Halrob than my maybe amateur sleuthing.
There's something about your interplay with Halrob that says town.

I don't have an answer right now who I'd investigate.

If you do not get lynched I expect we have a clear plan as who to investigate. Not saying you won't be lynched though. But your wrong result on devon is not a deal breaker for me as we had a quack who protected him and that may have skewed results. However your voting does not reflect well and leans you to mafia.

then there's the fact that as agent of chaos both you and hjelp have bombarded thread especially early on/mid game with a lot of nonsense causing confusion with nothing substantial for the most part.

As for hjelp he could be mafia/3p but his role supports the multiple cops/trackers and the mafia roles so far and based on voting would say he leans more as either 3p or town

Ragian would only be mafia if he was trying to get a lynched to cement himself but i find that unlikely, if anything he is 3p and also chose a role that is easy to hide behind as scum/3p since it can't be proven like a cop role can

[Devante]

So if I had to guess right now would say LC/hjelp best in line for mafia and hjelp/ragian for 3p. What I am trying to decide now is which lynch creates the best possible outcome for town to possibly get through the night, not mis lynch and have a shot tomorrow

[Devante]

Of course I am not including hal in this as he is confirmed town for me unless something between communications with mod was misunderstood on my end but in that case he wouldn't be 3p but more like a converted mafia but I don't believe tha to be the case so he is confirmed town in my eyes

[hjelp]

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then there's the fact that as agent of chaos both you and hjelp have bombarded thread especially early on/mid game with a lot of nonsense causing confusion with nothing substantial for the most part.

As for hjelp he could be mafia/3p but his role supports the multiple cops/trackers and the mafia roles so far and based on voting would say he leans more as either 3p or town

...

My assumptions aren't nonsens.
Other posts are related to SoN!c's poems which I don't find nonsense but a bit of confusion

According to my assumptions, please read them and then tell me if they are nonsense

@ Loose Canon
Please check this if I made an error somewhere.

This one includes 3P. The objective is still the same - find the last Mafia
This is the latest vote and then finally EW voted Devon99 (see below).

Case I
Assumption I: one Mafia doesn't vote for the fellow Mafia.
Assumption II: All voted on Devon99 - one of them flips 3P - the rest flip towns (including EW) according to assumption I.

Devon99 and halrob64 voted on Darin44.

Darin44 didn't vote on Devon99 so Darin44 flips Mafia.
halrob64 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips Mafia then halrob64 flips Town
Devon99 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips Mafia then Devon99 flips Town but it's false since Devon99 actually flipped Mafia.

So Darin44 can't flip Mafia, hence flips Town.

Darin44 flips Town then halrob64 flips Town or flips Mafia.
Loose Canon didn't vote on Devon99 then Loose Canon flips Mafia.

Now, halrob64 is cleared Town by Charle and EW, so halrob64 flips Town.

Last one standing will be Loose Canon flips Mafia.

Case II
Assumption I: one Mafia doesn't vote for the fellow Mafia.
Assumption II: All voted on Devon99 flip towns (including EW) according to assumption I.
Assumption III: - one of them that didn't vote on Devon99 flips 3P

Devon99 and halrob64 voted on Darin44.
Darin44 didn't vote on Devon99 so Darin44 flips Mafia or 3P.
halrob64 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips Mafia then halrob64 flips Town or 3P.
halrob64 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips 3P then halrob64 flips Mafia or Town.

Devon99 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips Mafia then Devon99 flips Town or 3P but it's false since Devon99 actually flipped Mafia.
Devon99 voted on Darin44 but Darin44 flips 3P then Devon99 flips Town or Mafia but Devon99 actually flipped Mafia.
So Darin44 can't flip Mafia, hence flips Town or 3P.

Darin44 flips Town then halrob64 flips Town or Mafia or 3P.
Darin44 flips 3P then halrob64 flips Town or Mafia.
Loose Canon didn't vote on Devon99 then Loose Canon flips Mafia or 3P.

Now, halrob64 is cleared Town by Charle and EW, so halrob64 flips Town.
so

Darin44 flips Town then halrob64 flips Town.
Last one standing will be Loose Canon flips Mafia or 3P.
Darin44 flips 3P then halrob64 flips Town.
Last one standing will be Loose Canon flips Mafia.

Official vote count:

Devon: (4) Charle, Hjelp, Ragian, Devante
Hjelp: (2) EW, Darin
Darin: (2) Devon, Halrob
EW: (1) Loose Canon

TIME TO DECIDE WHO GETS LYNCHED IS NOW!! JUST 4 HOURS REMAINING..

Spoiler

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/t ... nt=cursive

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[hjelp]

@ Devante

Of course I am not including hal in this as he is confirmed town for me unless something between communications with mod was misunderstood on my end but in that case he wouldn't be 3p but more like a converted mafia but I don't believe tha to be the case so he is confirmed town in my eyes

There is actually one thing regarding halrob64 that I'm curious about.

The hypothesis is he's a poisoner by day with the add on that horse tranquiliser is slipped into the cup of anyone who visits him at night. (EW). Charle is investigation proof.
Then at night he's cop who visits anyone he wants and learns fully about them - role & what they've done.
With that hypothesis he could have visited anyone N1 - but most probably did visit Halrob.

When I read total rubbish like this (horse tranquiliser Where did that one come from??) I think for goodness sake lets just lynch Loose to get him out of the way but then it all might be true
OK N1 I had the special powers. it was in the form of a FBI lie detector but running out of battery power giving only one chance to use it.
I could choose a passage from any comments from any player to see if they were trying to deceive.
I chose a comment from Kongming, I was suspicious from his initial town posting ref being the ordinary town guy.
the test came back negative which showed Kongming was being honest at that moment. Not proof in itself of innocence but made me more comfortable unfortunately Kongming was shot N! so I decided not to reveal that information.
My role is retired town doc, note retired. The power I have is to protect one person per night, normal rules, no other power.
N1 I protected Devante as he was claiming town and sp
N2 I protected myself which I'm entitled to do.
What makes it interesting now is to look at who was killed N2 and who was not considering one of the protective roles did not cover some of the likely suspects.
So earlier Ragian you inferred that you might be town and have a role but it pays to hold back.
I have done that but now I have shown mine its time to show yours.
Devante I hope that my protecting you N1 was worth it but I'm not sure.

What kind of a Doc has self-protection ?
As far as I understand, a real Doc protects other players, a Quack Doc has self-protection.
So if you're looking for a Town Quack Doc then you have one more?

halrob64 is cleared town, that means no Mafia, but still can be 3P.

@Devante
Isn't it a bit odd that halrob64 asked for your protection?
and regarding Chaos agent -
I think that Lecter plays a part in the game. A former FBI/Cop. Halrob had access to a FBI lie detector. According to my assumptions (no 3P involved) lead to that Darin44 was town. If 3P involved then Darin44 could have been 3P but it turned out that Darin44 was town.
Now we are back to the result according to my assumptions -
Loose Canon flips Mafia or 3P.
but we now have to add that halrob64 can flip 3P.
Finally, you haven't stated yet if you're Doc or Cop.

quote=Devante post_id=5371813 time=1764694492 user_id=521137]

by Devante » Tue Dec 02, 2025 11:45 am

And i'm not sure how mod will act if I claim my role specifically, this goes back to conditions that were highlighted beginning of game, so have to be careful so myself and Hal are not killed by a statement I make. What I think I can say without stating my role is that when I was notified about the doc being poisoned and unaware I focused on locating the real and quack doc so I could heal the poison of the real doc so he could remain in play. Don't kill us Sonic

That all tallies with what I know, I can confirm I did know I had been poisoned.
I do know what you role is Devante although you have not been named to me I put two and two together when I was told the tole of the person standing in for me.
Unless forced to do so I don't think we need to reveal that.

Agreed
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You did just happen to believe in halrob64's words and didn't reflect if it can be half of the truth. But halrob64 can't be Mafia Doc since Mafia recruted the Doc before Charle cleared halrob64. So halrob64 is Town.

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

I still waiting to hear if
Your role Ascetic, is it always on? or is it that you can use it once? or do you not have that role at all?

[hjelp]

halrob64 can't be 3P since 3P has poison, but halrob64 can be Lecter.

Enough writing, I'm waiting for Charle's report.

[Devante]

Haven’t had time to look through all that hjelp but will do so tomorrow. Curious on report and also Hal’s review of things

[Devante]

Also will add ragian disappearing from the scene doesn’t look good right now

[Devante]

And loose being the forensic accountant you are surprised you haven’t tried to figure out sonics poems/riddles

[Ragian]

Alright, guys. I'm in Scotland visiting a friend. Cut me some damn slack. I'm not just sitting with my damn phone all the time

And yes, I am, as stated earlier, ascetic all the time. At that point, however, I just thought that was flavour, but it turns out that it's an actual role.

Also, a doc can easily have self-protection. Last time I was the doc, I had self-protection. It's up to the mod.

[Ragian]

No one has replied within the hour. This doesn't reflect well on you

[halrob64]

Help I'm not the doc I'm the retired doc I pointed that out when I claimed.
I do have the ability to self protect, I was poisoned, if I had not self protected I would be dead.
I also self protected last night.
So maybe there was another poising attempt on me.
I think switching your interest to me is muddying the waters.
Maybe that's over enthusiasm or maybe deliberate and in that case it weakens your position as town for me.
My suspicion is on Raglan can't be killed at night? If correct then only lynching can do the job

[Devante]

Help I'm not the doc I'm the retired doc I pointed that out when I claimed.
I do have the ability to self protect, I was poisoned, if I had not self protected I would be dead.
I also self protected last night.
So maybe there was another poising attempt on me.
I think switching your interest to me is muddying the waters.
Maybe that's over enthusiasm or maybe deliberate and in that case it weakens your position as town for me.
My suspicion is on Raglan can't be killed at night? If correct then only lynching can do the job

If your not town doc then why did you protect me supposedly n1