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[Ragian]

Help I'm not the doc I'm the retired doc I pointed that out when I claimed.
I do have the ability to self protect, I was poisoned, if I had not self protected I would be dead.
I also self protected last night.
So maybe there was another poising attempt on me.
I think switching your interest to me is muddying the waters.
Maybe that's over enthusiasm or maybe deliberate and in that case it weakens your position as town for me.
My suspicion is on Raglan can't be killed at night? If correct then only lynching can do the job

Sigh... I have a 1 shot bulletproof ability. I have been open to murder all nights so far in the game, but neither mafia nor poisoner has deemed me worthy of their bother. I don't think I understand why you go down that line given that you supposedly can't kill at night...

[halrob64]

Sigh... I have a 1 shot bulletproof ability. I have been open to murder all nights so far in the game, but neither mafia nor poisoner has deemed me worthy of their bother. I don't think I understand why you go down that line given that you supposedly can't kill at night...

Sorry where is my ability to kill at night?

[hjelp]

I have Charle's report.

N1. Charle's chosen target was halrob64 and "no result".
N2. Charle's chosen target was Ragian and "no result".
N3. Charle's chosen target was Ragian and "no result".

[hjelp]

@ halrob64

I think your claim is right, Doc (retired), since Devante's story former back-up role supports it.

[Ragian]

Sigh... I have a 1 shot bulletproof ability. I have been open to murder all nights so far in the game, but neither mafia nor poisoner has deemed me worthy of their bother. I don't think I understand why you go down that line given that you supposedly can't kill at night...

Sorry where is my ability to kill at night?

Do you not get my point? I never said you have an ability to kill at night. I'm asking you how you'd deal with anyone differently from me. Lynching is all we have as town (barring any vigilante). We can't night kill. I can be nightkilled like everyone else unless I use my 1 shot bulletproof ability.

@hjelp, is that correct? Charle targeted me twice in a row?

[Ragian]

I have Charle's report.

N1. Charle's chosen target was halrob64 and "no result".
N2. Charle's chosen target was Ragian and "no result".
N3. Charle's chosen target was Ragian and "no result".

Why is there no result on halrob? Didn't he come back town?

[hjelp]

Yes, halrob64 came back Town, but no result Mafia

[hjelp]

And your claim Ragian seems to be valid. Charle was probably blocked twice by your role.

[halrob64]

Charle did have a result on me, I came back as innocent as far as I recall, Charle didn't deviate from that so I cannot understand the no result for you jhelp
Also I don't see why Charle would try to investigate twice.

[halrob64]

Yes, halrob64 came back Town, but no result Mafia

If you investigate someone you get a result of innocent, guilty or no result as far as I'm aware you don't get to ask multiple questions.
So Charle would have asked for me to be investigated. the result would have been one of the above.
As far as I recall it came back as innocent, EW confirmed the visit as Town Warden.
So where did the innocent town but no result mafia come from?

[hjelp]

I was referring to if it was Mafia or not on you Halrob64 therefore I wrote no result. I didn't use the word innocent but you are innocent. He did have a result on you and you're not Mafia.

[Ragian]

Yes, halrob64 came back Town, but no result Mafia

It would be unusual for Charle to think that halrob is town if he got a no result. He would get a innocent/town result on town players, a guilty/scum/mafia result on scum, and no result in the event that he was blocked or otherwise unable to retrieve information about his target.

Therefore, the "no result" on halrob contradicts Charle's gameplay in which he quite clearly believed halrob to be town...

[Ragian]

I was referring to if it was Mafia or not on you Halrob64 therefore I wrote no result. I didn't use the word innocent but you are innocent. He did have a result on you and you're not Mafia.

Or you have no report and not knowing the mechanics of the cop role made you write no result rather than innocent or similar. I mean, that's how it looks. Especially, since you use the no result on me to indicate that Charle was blocked investigating me. Surely, you'd use no result to indicate my innocence just like it indicates halrob's.

[Loose Canon]

There could be a mafia busdriver in play, - would deflect Charles investigation onto another player

The 2 no results on Ragian though- I think? - would indicate Ragain would have had to have used his claimed ascetic shot 1 of the nights - whereas he has said he hasn't

There is a possibility too though - I think - that 3p can mess with results to his hearts delight

My mind is blown

I think I've got to vote either Rag or Hjelp still - but trying to process this double no result result on Rag - as I'm sure everyone else is.

Fpd

My mind is still blown

[halrob64]

by hjelp » Fri Dec 05, 2025 5:31 am

I was referring to if it was Mafia or not on you Halrob64 therefore I wrote no result. I didn't use the word innocent but you are innocent. He did have a result on you and you're not Mafia.

So what did the result from Sonic actually say then? I am a bit confused, I thought you could only investigate if a cop was killed. The you could ask to find out who the cop was investigating on that night?
Also I thought you said you did not get any result for N1/N2?
Sorry if I'm misreading this but very confused now to be honest

[halrob64]

Who is the bus driver then Loose, along side his other roles?

[Loose Canon]

I don't know if there is a busdriver - I'm just saying a busdriver would explain how Charle came to investigate Ragian 2 nights running.

If there is a mafia busdriver as far as you are concerned I'd have to be in the frame.
Alternatively Hjelp could be said busdriver - it would be imperfect but maybe overexcited play from Hjelp because I would have thought Hjelp could have made up anything from his claimed role.
What I will point out is Hjelp has left it late in the day to ask for and report on Charle s investigations.
So I'm no longer the only candidate for chaos king.

Having said all that from where I'm sitting I think Ragian is the best candidate for lynching as 1 of the 2 badduns - I just unlike everyone else don't know which.

I want to know what Ragian really is and what faction he really is.
Nasty Dirty Rag

[Ragian]

There could be a mafia busdriver in play, - would deflect Charles investigation onto another player

The 2 no results on Ragian though- I think? - would indicate Ragain would have had to have used his claimed ascetic shot 1 of the nights - whereas he has said he hasn't

There is a possibility too though - I think - that 3p can mess with results to his hearts delight

My mind is blown

I think I've got to vote either Rag or Hjelp still - but trying to process this double no result result on Rag - as I'm sure everyone else is.

Fpd

My mind is still blown

Lord have mercy...

I am ALWAYS ascetic! Are you seriously skimming your eyes out, or are you deliberately misrepresenting me? Both indicate scum.

[Ragian]

Just give up, Loose. You know perfectly well that a mafia brusdriver is WAY too overpowered as it both redirects and investigates. Moreover, your continuous suggestions about this and that and this and that pollute the thread and lead to misinformation. You're being manipulative and extremely scummy.

Unless you skimmed, ignored, or other, you know perfectly well that I claimed ascetic town with a ONE SHOT bulletproof ability. And while I obviously can't know if a) what hjelp says is correct (given his use of "no result") or b) what Charle did, I could understand if Charle were to investigate me twice, thinking that given the odd night Godfather role, my role could be odd or even night whatever. I wouldn't have done so myself, but I can understand if that were to be his line of thinking.

[Loose Canon]

I'm not giving up because I'm a voting number for town and I can't see how you can be rag.

[halrob64]

The thing is Loose, I'm on the fence regarding who is who ref 3p and mafia, we are a couple of days away from the next night, I'm sure we are going to lynch before nightfall.
How does that last post help town at all, other than to sow confusion by introducing more elements?
Surely its now down to who is telling the truth and who is spinning further lies?
I agree with Ragian that Charle may well have tried twice to investigate the same person.
I do agree with you ref jhelp waiting until now to provide the information ref Charle's search. But, if he can only investigate once the cop has been killed then there is some sense in that.
My issue with jhelps post is this.
He needed to be prompted before he got the information.
I thought you could only use it once and for one search.
It did not make sense to say no result ref me and mafia when Charle's search clearly came up that I was town.
So that's why I posed the question to jhelp, what EXACTLY did the response from Sonic say, not what your interpretation was?

[hjelp]

I have access to internet now, short paus driving.
You told me that I can’t quote SoN!c so I rewrote.
Let me put it this way.
I can confirm Charle’s report N1 and N2.
N3 is the same result as N2.
Target N1 was halrob64.
Target N2 and N3 was Ragian.

[halrob64]

no wonder Sherlock Holmes injected drugs

[hjelp]

I think this this more or less confirms Ragians claim. And confirms halrob64 innocent.

[hjelp]

I will follow my assumptions this time
And

Loose Canon pushed for EW heavily D2 and N2 EW was shot.
Loose Canon pushed for Charle heavily D3 and N3 Charle was shot.