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Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:20 am
by BigBallinStalin
jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:12 am
by jay_a2j
Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:14 am
by jay_a2j
Snorri1234 wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Bigger treasures in other places.
There are no bigger treasures.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:33 am
by Timminz
BigBallinStalin wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Sometimes it's just beyond the next door. All you need to do is grab that knob, and pull.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:05 am
by Skittles!
Timminz wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Sometimes it's just beyond the next door. All you need to do is grab that knob, and pull.
That's what she said.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:15 am
by Woodruff
jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:58 am
by b.k. barunt
Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
I'm curious - what statement of God did he just question?
Honibaz
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:35 pm
by jay_a2j
b.k. barunt wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
I'm curious - what statement of God did he just question?
Honibaz
He has no idea, so at this point it's just better to pretend he's not in the room.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:44 pm
by Timminz
Knowledge and faith are not the same thing. To pretend they are is yet another symptom of a lack of rational thought processes.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:20 pm
by Snorri1234
jay_a2j wrote:b.k. barunt wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
I'm curious - what statement of God did he just question?
Honibaz
He has no idea, so at this point it's just better to pretend he's not in the room.
I was under the impression that Faith in God was the only way. Knowing God exist (in an absolute way) would not only be impossible but also counter to faith.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:57 pm
by bradleybadly
Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:natty_dread wrote:In other words, you are too close-minded to even consider that religions other than yours could have any value?
Way to fundamentalize.
When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
One thing we do know is that you are romantically infatuated with Jay. You roam around here looking for any excuse to engage him with some sort of sick, rhetorical foreplay masked as disagreement. Just send the guy a pm and ask him out already. The worst that could happen is he says no to your flirtations and advances.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:04 pm
by 2dimes
That could be directed at either one of them. Kind of like I lost track of which one said this.
He has no idea, so at this point it's just better to pretend he's not in the room.
I'm fairly sure they both did at some time.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:05 pm
by natty dread
b.k. barunt wrote:Hrmm, DeriboNucleicAcid (not sure about the D). Why?
Desoxy-ribonucleic acid. Des oxy (also spelled deoxy) means without oxygen, ie. a ribonucleic acid with one oxygen atom removed.
Couldn't resist, for once I could provide a smart answer for something

Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:39 pm
by nietzsche
ok, first best religion Atheism (I know is not a religion).
Second, budhism
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:48 pm
by Woodruff
b.k. barunt wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Woodruff wrote:jay_a2j wrote:When you know where the treasure is why dig any place else?

Because you DON'T know...you CAN'T know.
On the contrary, I do know.
You BELIEVE, but you do not KNOW. Or are you claiming that God is a liar?
I'm curious - what statement of God did he just question?
Honibaz
I'm going off the top of my head rather than look up the exact quote. However, it's a well-known reference and even if I'm wrong about it, I'm pretty sure you'll recognize the reference...does the Bible not say that only through faith, not knowledge and not deeds, can you be accepted by God? This tells me that someone cannot possibly KNOW, but can only BELIEVE (with the exception of the insane, of course).
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:50 pm
by Woodruff
bradleybadly wrote:One thing we do know is that you are romantically infatuated with Jay. You roam around here looking for any excuse to engage him with some sort of sick, rhetorical foreplay masked as disagreement. Just send the guy a pm and ask him out already. The worst that could happen is he says no to your flirtations and advances.
Jay and I both just happen to post a lot, we both have strong opinions, and we disagree with each other almost without exception. That combination means that the two of us will necessarily be in discussion against each other...a lot.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:17 pm
by jonesthecurl
Woodruff wrote:bradleybadly wrote:One thing we do know is that you are romantically infatuated with Jay. You roam around here looking for any excuse to engage him with some sort of sick, rhetorical foreplay masked as disagreement. Just send the guy a pm and ask him out already. The worst that could happen is he says no to your flirtations and advances.
Jay and I both just happen to post a lot, we both have strong opinions, and we disagree with each other almost without exception. That combination means that the two of us will necessarily be in discussion against each other...a lot.
Yada yada get a room.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:59 pm
by b.k. barunt
Woodruff wrote:
I'm going off the top of my head rather than look up the exact quote. However, it's a well-known reference and even if I'm wrong about it, I'm pretty sure you'll recognize the reference...does the Bible not say that only through faith, not knowledge and not deeds, can you be accepted by God? This tells me that someone cannot possibly KNOW, but can only BELIEVE (with the exception of the insane, of course).
You have a very superficial knowledge of what "faith" is. Don't feel bad - most professing "Christians" do. I didn't really grok on it until i lost mine. Be that as it may, there are plenty of scriptures that speak of "knowing" the truth of God. Sure we could argue absolutes if i wanted to indulge you and certainly the knowing will be more complete when one dies, but as far as knowing the reality of God as well as one knows anything there are like i say plenty of scriptures. Look at the book of I John, first, second and third chapters and see how many times the word "know" is used in strong context if you're really curious.
Honibaz
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:06 pm
by Skittles!
nietzsche wrote:ok, first best religion Atheism (I know is not a religion).
Second, budhism
I really don't like Buddhism, in the slightest. It's just as mythical as the other major religions.
I'd probably go Satanism if I had to.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:55 pm
by dalliance
I'm atheist first of all, but I would choose Buddhism. Buddhists are, from what I have seen, the most content with their lives. Hell, they can even catch themselves on fire and burn to death while not at all flinching for a rightful cause. Talk about self-control and mind over body.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:09 pm
by pimpdave
alan.duanmu wrote:Buddhists are, from what I have seen, the most content with their lives. Hell, they can even catch themselves on fire and burn to death while not at all flinching for a rightful cause. Talk about self-control and mind over body.
Joan of Arc wrote:WHAT AM I, CHOPPED LIVER?
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:37 pm
by notyou2
No one else wants to be a bacchanal?
Get drunk all the time and party......its the ultimate religion.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:39 pm
by Woodruff
b.k. barunt wrote:Woodruff wrote:
I'm going off the top of my head rather than look up the exact quote. However, it's a well-known reference and even if I'm wrong about it, I'm pretty sure you'll recognize the reference...does the Bible not say that only through faith, not knowledge and not deeds, can you be accepted by God? This tells me that someone cannot possibly KNOW, but can only BELIEVE (with the exception of the insane, of course).
You have a very superficial knowledge of what "faith" is. Don't feel bad - most professing "Christians" do.
Is that right? First of all, I'm not a Christian, though that's completely irrelevant. Secondly, faith is simply believing something either is or is not true without having proof of it. That IS what faith is. Nothing superficial about it...it just is.
Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:29 am
by BigBallinStalin
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Re: 2nd Best Religion
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:32 am
by b.k. barunt
Fast posted there.
Interesting scripture in James says "You believe in God? You do well. The devils also believe, and tremble."
The devils have faith? Why then aren't they "saved"? Like i said, your understanding is superficial.
Honibaz