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Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:05 am
by TheBro
Go ahead, try to beat Mikiesdios and Superrag.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:20 am
by kratos644
TheBro wrote:Go ahead, try to beat Mikiesdios and Superrag.

:shock:
Okay
Game 3292756
We did it bud ;) :lol:

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:32 am
by Georgerx7di
TheBro wrote:Go ahead, try to beat Mikiesdios and Superrag.



I played 2 games against them, they were good. We did end up with a 50/50 split :)

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:34 am
by Kotaro
#1_stunna wrote:no questions asked...

[player]Pianoplayer77[/player] is the best player out there.


Wait until he wins a battle royale. He'll be conqueror in 1 game

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:50 pm
by #1_stunna
Kotaro wrote:
#1_stunna wrote:no questions asked...

[player]Pianoplayer77[/player] is the best player out there.


Wait until he wins a battle royale. He'll be conqueror in 1 game


not gonna happen now, he got the boot.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:54 pm
by the.killing.44
Kotaro wrote:
#1_stunna wrote:no questions asked...

[player]Pianoplayer77[/player] is the best player out there.


Wait until he wins a battle royale. He'll be conqueror in 1 game

If he actually won one couldn't he technically gain 6k pts :shock:

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:55 pm
by demonfork
the.killing.44 wrote:
Kotaro wrote:
#1_stunna wrote:no questions asked...

[player]Pianoplayer77[/player] is the best player out there.


Wait until he wins a battle royale. He'll be conqueror in 1 game

If he actually won one couldn't he technically gain 6k pts :shock:


if there were 60 peeps in the game he could

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:57 pm
by Blitzaholic
kratos644 wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:sequential team games is a toss up between big whiskey, and blitzaholic.

Lol @ blitz. He's good I'll give him that but he's not the best sequential team game player.
Best team game players I can think of off top of my head-
Seulessliathin
Chariot of Fire
Big Whiskey
Velvecarrots
David_Wain



:lol: krato, you are mad cause we got in a big fued and I had to put you in your place in many games to quiet you down, ty for the half compliment, but, you cannot deny you are angry with me. The fact is we played 36 times and I whipped you good in 26 of those 36 and I had cooks for my teammates in some games and have no clue who they are.
Then, months ago, you say you are much better now, then dw and I pw'd you in many games while you had excellent partners, anyways you slice it, I doubt many have better then a 26 win to 10 loss ratio against you, this means I beat you more than 2 in a half times to one, almost 3 to 1. get over your resentments!

the reason my score dropped is maybe because I got almost 90 medals and 35 tourney titles, # 1 in both areas, maybe you should think of that you little child.


TheBro wrote:Go ahead, try to beat Mikiesdios and Superrag.



I played them 6 times and won 4 all with different partners and one of my partners was a noob I didnt even know and we still won, but, yes, they are good.



Georgerx7di wrote:
Anyway, its possible that the greatest player has never even made general.

Some who have first. These are some of the obvious names

Blitz - a lot of people think him the best
Scott - excels in many different setting and maps
Sjnap - awesome quads player, haven't played anything other than trips and quads with him though.
Poomaker - we've forgotten him already. He may have been the best 6 player std. seq. esc. ever, maybe.
herpes - awesome dubs and quads players, as well as great at std. 6 players games. He's good at a lot more than the 1v1's on city mogul that people know him for.
comic - I mostly play with comic when he was a captain, but he improved tremendously while I was away from the site, and is one of the best by many people's accounts.
maniacmath - another top std. player.

And the list goes on, but I will stop here. Now for some not so obvious names.

Incandeza - great std. player, great dubs player, been around for a long time.
Lindax - awesome at same settings, has many medals, many tourney wins.

There are probably plenty more players like these two, I just don't know them that well, because I haven't played them enough. But these are guys who never took the time to limit themselves to one game style, and use it to move up the ranks. Instead they play for fun, and so they level off at major, or colonel, or whatever rank is determined by two factors. 1. There skill, and 2. There choice of game settings.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents, and my list is by no means complete.



thanks george for the kind compliments.



prism, khaz, george and many others make gr8 points, different players excel at different things. One gr8 way I like to look at it is, who are the players that excel at many game types, maps, and settings?, not just one.

take baseball for example.

would you like a player that bats .352 average with 9 homers, 40 rbi's, and 18 steals?
OR
would you like a player that bats .311 average with 45 homers, 118 rbi's and 22 steals?


many baseball players are great, but most are great in one or 2 areas, rarely do you find gems that excel at most or all things, now those that do, truly are respected and ahead of the class.

just my opinion

big whiskey, but, all in thota are awesome or they would not be there, trust me.

outside of thota

well scott-land, and sjnap are solid in singles and teams, king herpes is very good player too, regardless of the heat he gets form many, he is a solid player and has skills.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:28 pm
by kratos644
Blitzaholic wrote: :lol: krato, you are mad cause we got in a big fued and I had to put you in your place in many games to quiet you down, ty for the half compliment, but, you cannot deny you are angry with me. The fact is we played 36 times and I whipped you good in 26 of those 36 and I had cooks for my teammates in some games and have no clue who they are.
Then, months ago, you say you are much better now, then dw and I pw'd you in many games while you had excellent partners, anyways you slice it, I doubt many have better then a 26 win to 10 loss ratio against you, this means I beat you more than 2 in a half times to one, almost 3 to 1. get over your resentments!

the reason my score dropped is maybe because I got almost 90 medals and 35 tourney titles, # 1 in both areas, maybe you should think of that you little child.


:roll: You totally let this fly right over your head Blitz. I just said I didn't think you were the best at standard seq team games. Did I say I was either? No and since according to you I'm just average and suck then your record against me should mean shit.

The 5 I listed are some of the best team players on the site?
Would you disagree with that?
Big Whiskey and David_Wain are better than you in team games?
And when it comes to doubles DW is probably the best.
Seul, Chariot, and Velve are also all wonderful team players as well.

As for the arguments. You started them I ended em by putting you on foe. I hold no resentment about it. In fact it gives me a good laugh. I didn't insult you in my earlier post I just said I didn't believe you to be the "best" at those settings. Notice I said you are good as to not have things interpreted the wrong way yet again, but it looks as if you still did. :roll:

Yet you're again insulting me... and I'm the child here? Be mature Blitz, there's no reason to bash another player to get your point across when I was completely civil in my comments.

Now to clear the record. Had he put you up as one of the best for standard sequential games I'd probably agree. There isn't one very best but you're up in the top there. As for team games you're good and high up. Just not top tier. You fall short to BW, Seul, Chariot and the likes.

P.S. Your troll didn't work I still kept things civil.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:38 pm
by Blitzaholic
kratos644 wrote:The 5 I listed are some of the best team players on the site?
Would you disagree with that?


they are dam good yes

kratos644 wrote:Big Whiskey and David_Wain are better than you in team games?


not sure about that, I guess you would need to ask them ;) , they dam good, you forget maybe or just don't know, they both learned a lot from me, especially on some complex maps, but no doubt, dw and bw are excellent, all in thota are. we all teach and help each other.

kratos644 wrote:And when it comes to doubles DW is probably the best.


he is very solid and one of my closest friends on here, can't say anything bad about him, he is super

kratos644 wrote:Seul, Chariot, and Velve are also all wonderful team players as well.


absolutely


kratos644 wrote:As for the arguments. I hold no resentment about it.

P.S. I still kept things civil.



ok, my apologies kratos, I will keep it civil, peace :D

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:46 pm
by kratos644
Blitzaholic wrote:ok, my apologies kratos, I will keep it civil, peace :D

Thanks ;)

And no response to the glorifying of your standard skills? :lol:

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:51 pm
by Blitzaholic
kratos644 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:ok, my apologies kratos, I will keep it civil, peace :D

Thanks ;)

And no response to the glorifying of your standard skills? :lol:



lol, you mean this one?

kratos644 wrote:Now to clear the record. Had he put you (blitzaholic) up as one of the best for standard sequential games I'd probably agree. There isn't one very best but you're up in the top there.



thank you very much for the kind words in my singles play. I have not focused on this as much lately, although won some solid tourneys in 6 and 8 man games. For some reason, I dont give myself enough credit in this area, I thought I stacked up rather well, but scott-land, and comic boy really made me lose some confidence in this area, sure glad they didnt play in those tourney's, lol :cry:

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:54 pm
by khazalid
seriously kratos i just dont get how you can hold that players x and y are better than player z on such a formulaic setting. mikie and the ragman are one of the best doubles teams on the site for sure but like blitz said, he has a winning record over them. you could (using your list) ask bw, seul and CoF what their records are against them and the chances are that some will be a few games up and some a few games down. that is just how it is, a vagary of luck at the pinnacle.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:57 pm
by Blitzaholic
khazalid wrote:seriously kratos i just dont get how you can hold that players x and y are better than player z on such a formulaic setting. mikie and the ragman are one of the best doubles teams on the site for sure but like blitz said, he has a winning record over them. you could (using your list) ask bw, seul and CoF what their records are against them and the chances are that some will be a few games up and some a few games down. that is just how it is, a vagary of luck at the pinnacle.



I must say though, I have teamed a lot more with khazy of late, and he has really impressed me more than I have realized with his vision and game play. great warrior you are khazy =D>

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:00 pm
by the.killing.44
khazalid wrote:seriously kratos i just dont get how you can hold that players x and y are better than player z on such a formulaic setting. mikie and the ragman are one of the best doubles teams on the site for sure but like blitz said, he has a winning record over them. you could (using your list) ask bw, seul and CoF what their records are against them and the chances are that some will be a few games up and some a few games down. that is just how it is, a vagary of luck at the pinnacle.

Seul's 4-1
CoF has never played
BW's 15-7

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:10 pm
by Natascha
After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:13 pm
by khazalid
aww thanks blitz, you're making me blush now! :oops:

and cheers for the stats killing. it proves my point exactly because imo if there were to be a single 'best team' id probably have picked mike and super. clearly it just doesnt exist though! in freestyle there are a core of great players separated by repetition of specific maps and superior connection speed (not attempting to decry it just saying that thats what tends to separate the top fs dogs). if you were going to look for an area of gameplay to formulate a 'best player' thesis on, it would surely be singles. mm17, comic, hatch, genghis (sadly left) poomaker, scott land etc etc. there are certainly a smaller number in that field who are a cut above. seq teams though i just dont see it myself.

honourable mention has to go to jork, however. i dont know how many will remmber him but jork would team with anyone and his win rate was outstanding considering. perhaps you could say with a little more confidence that he was the best trips player ever on cc?

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:16 pm
by khazalid
Natascha wrote:After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia


natascha makes a good point too. blitz can play ANYTHING and he holds more 1st's and records than anyone else on here by a distance.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:20 pm
by Natascha
khazalid wrote:
Natascha wrote:After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia


natascha makes a good point too. blitz can play ANYTHING and he holds more 1st's and records than anyone else on here by a distance.


That's true. Looks like there is no map or no kind of game that Blitz cannot play.

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:22 pm
by khazalid
in fairness, ive never seen an adjacent flat rate forbidden city with his name on the roster!

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:23 pm
by kratos644
Natascha wrote:
khazalid wrote:
Natascha wrote:After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia


natascha makes a good point too. blitz can play ANYTHING and he holds more 1st's and records than anyone else on here by a distance.


That's true. Looks like there is no map or no kind of game that Blitz cannot play.

Except freestyle... :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:33 pm
by ronsizzle
kratos644 wrote:
Natascha wrote:
khazalid wrote:
Natascha wrote:After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia


natascha makes a good point too. blitz can play ANYTHING and he holds more 1st's and records than anyone else on here by a distance.


That's true. Looks like there is no map or no kind of game that Blitz cannot play.

Except freestyle... :roll:



i thought the same thing until i mapranked blitz with freestyle. he is very impressive. very!

Re:

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:42 pm
by the.killing.44
ronc8649 wrote:
kratos644 wrote:
Natascha wrote:
khazalid wrote:
Natascha wrote:After winning 26 of 27 tourney games in 1 tourney, after a few very nice pancake-with-strip party's and a lot of spankings my Jedi mind decides that King of cc is.... Blitzaholic. :lol:

kus lekker ding
Leia


natascha makes a good point too. blitz can play ANYTHING and he holds more 1st's and records than anyone else on here by a distance.


That's true. Looks like there is no map or no kind of game that Blitz cannot play.

Except freestyle... :roll:



i thought the same thing until i mapranked blitz with freestyle. he is very impressive. very!

Yes, very indeed! :P

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:43 pm
by kratos644
khazalid wrote:seriously kratos i just dont get how you can hold that players x and y are better than player z on such a formulaic setting. mikie and the ragman are one of the best doubles teams on the site for sure but like blitz said, he has a winning record over them. you could (using your list) ask bw, seul and CoF what their records are against them and the chances are that some will be a few games up and some a few games down. that is just how it is, a vagary of luck at the pinnacle.

And if he wasn't your clan mate would you defend this so much?
It was just a personal opinion that those guys are on a different level than Blitz in team games. I didn't say he was eons behind or anything cause he's not far behind. He can easily hold his own against them I just think their vision of the board and strategy is a little more sound than Blitz's. I've seen him miss key moves before... I do it, too. It's something I've seen these players do very rarely if ever though. I do give Blitz credit for being very versatile though. It's not easy to find a map he has trouble with and the ones he does he works to get better at. The number of players with such a wide variety of map knowledge and skill aren't many but Blitz is one of em. Usually playing such a wide variety causes a drop in rank. Hence Blitz's rank drop(not that rank is the best indicator of a player's skill anyway, just a general idea). Seul though manages to keep a rank of General while playing all the weird maps. I realize he doesn't have the medals Blitz has got but still... David is becoming much more diverse on his map knowledge. BW is good with most maps. I'm not saying Blitz would get blown out by these guys.
Just feel they're a little better than him as explained before.

Hope that clears things up ;)

Re: Who's the best player on Conquer Club?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:48 pm
by khazalid
none of them will be my clanmates soon if that helps assuage your fears. and im not defending/lauding anyone im just telling it like it is man