Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

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Teutonics
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Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by Teutonics »

Accused:
  • [player]General Quarters[/player] Player ID 184953
  • [player]General_Quarters[/player] Player ID 141045 (with underscore)
  • [player]Cpl Punishment[/player]
  • [player]The Cat[/player]
  • [player]SunJune[/player]
  • [player]Adam_Zappel[/player]


The accused are suspected of:
  • Being Multis


Game numbers for General Quarters ID 184953:
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1899596[/game]
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1946920[/game]
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2010326[/game]
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2044322[/game]
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2062038[/game]
  • [game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2084867[/game]


Comments:
These players could all be friends, but it looks like General Quarters (ID 184953) was created to run up a high score. This account has played 6 games here at CC, won them all, and now has 1603 points. The Cat participated in 5 of those games, Adam Zappel was in 4 of them, as did some of the others. All games were fog of war, except a private speed game between General Quarters, Adam Zappel, and The Cat. In that non-fog private game, General Quarters played one round, then everyone missed all remaining rounds, resulting in a default win for General Quarters. The 5 remaining fog games were all started by one of the suspected multis.

Additionally:

The Cat has played 62 games and Adam Zappel participated in 33 of them.
The first General Quarters (ID 141045) played 57 games and Adam Zappel participated in 14 of them.
Cpl Punishment has played 29 games and Adam Zappel participated in 14 of them.
SunJune has played 10 games and Adam Zappel participated in 7 of them.

There are several other non-premium accounts linked into this web as well. The three beneficiaries seem to be the three premium accounts -- Adam Zappel (1391 points), The Cat (1872 points), and General Quarters (1603 points).
Teutonics
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel, & others

Post by Teutonics »

Here's a good example of the abuse:

Game 2010326 was an 8-player game on the classic map. General Quarters won on round 4, after 4 days of play, during which time none of the other accounts attacked General Quarters.

The other 7 players were:
Adam Zappel, Premium
The Cat, Premium
SunJune, non-Premium
Cpl Punishment, non-Premium
Quazzzi, non-Premium
Googlesmurf, non-Premium
Sartor71660, Premium

Sartor was likely the only other real player there and is probably still shell-shocked from the experience - he lost all save one of his provinces before he even had a chance to play his first turn. He skipped all his turns and hasn't entered into a new game since then (roughly 2 weeks ago). It's unfortunate that this was only his 2nd game here at CC. He doesn't have the perspective to understand what happened to him and it looks like he gave up on the club.
Cash_Box
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel, & others

Post by Cash_Box »

Game 2062038 ... I have my doubts of the integrity of those players named that participated in this game as they avoided the opportunity to attack each other and I commented on that during the game. Whilst they may not be multis, the evidence certainly suggests collusion and secret alliances.

I have placed these players on my ignore list.
Teutonics
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel, & others

Post by Teutonics »

Yes, very suspicious, in more ways than one -- At the time of my report a few weeks ago, General Quarters had the highest average points-per-game win rate of everyone in CC.

I was doing some searching to study from the masters & found a strategy that worked quite well for General Quarters, but not one that I'd care to adopt.
Teutonics
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel, & others

Post by Teutonics »

bumped from the 2nd time its slipped to 2nd page
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Fireside Poet
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel, & others

Post by Fireside Poet »

Suspects:
* General Quarters Player ID 184953
* General_Quarters Player ID 141045 (with underscore)
* Cpl Punishment
* The Cat
* SunJune
* Adam_Zappel

Verdict: The Cat busted with Adam_Zappel, General Quarters, The_Jester, MrBMo, Jaque_Meoff, Yippekaiyeah, Jaques_Mehoff, General_Quarters & SunJune for multiple accounts.

Cpl Punishment cleared of multiple accounts.
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Teutonics
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by Teutonics »

Thanks for getting involved with the hunting again Fireside Poet.
delboy01
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by delboy01 »

The person at that IP number should be banned for life. That is just taking the ........ [Insert word of choice here].

Good work chaps.
delboy01
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by delboy01 »

Why is general quarters still premium?

The cat is also still active.
Splash_x
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by Splash_x »

maybe he bought it again?
delboy01
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Re: Suspected Multis - General_Quarters, Adam Zappel [Busted +4]

Post by delboy01 »

Teutonics wrote:Accused:

General Quarters
Cpl Punishment
The Cat

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The above 3 are still active players and general quarters still has premium membership and is joining games. Has he paid again?
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