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Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:Haha an actual anti-muslim screed from the perspective of an imperialist invader gets a paragraph of explanation but an offhand comment about religions being weird gets vague whining about marginalized communities. All this while we're probably on the same side against dumb Norwegian politics.
This is one of the reasons the left will never win.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
mrswdk wrote:Most of what he said was an assumption that call to prayer in a European city will be as loud and intrusive as the call to prayer in Iraq or Afghanistan, which it isn't. So that assumption is the only point that really needs addressing. I could say something about his 'I hate Islam' comment but DDS has always been fairly comfortable with hating on different groups of society, so what's the point.
It doesn't really matter when the EDL say they hate darkies. Those people will always say stuff like that.
mrswdk wrote:mrswdk wrote:It's when people who claim to be liberal, tolerant and accepting say things like 'black culture' or 'religion is stupid' that you have a problem. If even the liberals can't get liberalism right, what hope is there for anyone else?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Islam sucks - It's whole misbegotten religion should be thrown onto a pyre and forgotten.
As for my experience with this - Take it however you want. Left, right, liberal, anarchist, I don't give a flying f*ck, the prayer calls are fucking stupid and anyone that supports it are stupid as shit too.
Nobody wins.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
mrswdk wrote:*my area of London is majority Muslim and I've never heard the call
Neoteny wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:Islam sucks - It's whole misbegotten religion should be thrown onto a pyre and forgotten.
As for my experience with this - Take it however you want. Left, right, liberal, anarchist, I don't give a flying f*ck, the prayer calls are fucking stupid and anyone that supports it are stupid as shit too.
Nobody wins.
All the religions are dumb. But they are also just religions. Islam is fine. You're confusing religion with shitty people. Stop being shitty.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
mrswdk wrote:The thing with Corbyn isn't a genuine debate about anything he's actually done. It's just political opponents of his trying to discredit him by making out that he's an anti-Semite. It's no different to people calling Obama a Kenyan or saying Trump has small hands. Clown nonsense.
mrswdk wrote:'Right' and 'left' are meaningless titles that take a vast range of different attitudes and world views and try to peg them all into simple little boxes. In elections I've voted in in the UK I've voted for Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem politicians and also spoiled my ballot. Which side of the tug of war does that put me on? Thinking about issues in terms of 'right' and 'left' is useful if you're trying to run a propaganda campaign, but not so much if you want to actually think about complex issues and problems in a reasoned and considered manner.
mrswdk wrote:And like I said, I don't see the point in arguing with people who clearly aren't interested in the central message of what I'm saying. It's more productive to talk about tolerance with someone who thinks tolerance is important than it is to talk about it with someone who embraces the idea of being intolerant. The latter is never going to change their mind unless I devote an obscene amount of my personal time into playing their personal counselor, and I have better things to do.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I'm going to actively avoid a long and drawn out religious battle about why Islam is the worst of them all and really should be condemned in every which way possible. Call me a horrible human being, but it won't change my stance or what I find to be factual. Islam sucks, horribly, end of story.
All religions suck really, and how they made it into modern society where science has time again brought us into this age of wondrous technology is baffling. But again, I'll reiterate that Islam is the worst. Do your own leg work, or just take my opinion with a grain of salt, I don't care whichever way.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:As for the political spectrum, I'm in agreement with Mrsdwk (holy shit, shocking). Political terms serve no end goal, and they only help those that want to categorize people to fit into an argument. I think it's stupid when folks try to express an opinion and arguments/debates regress to folks calling one another a liberal, or alt right, or whatever the f*ck dumb term because they can't fit a good counter point, or they need to use it to justify their stance for some obscure reason. Just tackle someone's opinion, point by point, rather than resorting to some child temper tantrum "Waaah! Leftist LIBERAL!"
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
mrswdk wrote:I wouldn't want it to be blasted at airplane volume 3-5 times a day for extended periods of time each time, but as I said - no one does that in the UK, so it's a moot point.
2dimes wrote:mrswdk wrote:I wouldn't want it to be blasted at airplane volume 3-5 times a day for extended periods of time each time, but as I said - no one does that in the UK, so it's a moot point.
No it's not a moot point.
The point is, currently no one does that in Norway either, however there is someone being proactive to make it against the law
2dimes wrote:There is no loop hole that allows for killing people in the US.
mrswdk wrote:What are the uses of dividing people up into 'left' and 'right' then?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
mrswdk wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
Neoteny wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:I'm going to actively avoid a long and drawn out religious battle about why Islam is the worst of them all and really should be condemned in every which way possible. Call me a horrible human being, but it won't change my stance or what I find to be factual. Islam sucks, horribly, end of story.
All religions suck really, and how they made it into modern society where science has time again brought us into this age of wondrous technology is baffling. But again, I'll reiterate that Islam is the worst. Do your own leg work, or just take my opinion with a grain of salt, I don't care whichever way.
I used to think that back when I was a shithead. I sort of came of age during the new atheist rise, and said some pretty shitty things even here on this website. My opinions on religion in general remain the same, but of the people who adhere to them have adjusted a lot. So I've done a lot of legwork there. Stop being a shithead.
Neoteny wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:As for the political spectrum, I'm in agreement with Mrsdwk (holy shit, shocking). Political terms serve no end goal, and they only help those that want to categorize people to fit into an argument. I think it's stupid when folks try to express an opinion and arguments/debates regress to folks calling one another a liberal, or alt right, or whatever the f*ck dumb term because they can't fit a good counter point, or they need to use it to justify their stance for some obscure reason. Just tackle someone's opinion, point by point, rather than resorting to some child temper tantrum "Waaah! Leftist LIBERAL!"
Political terms have their uses and discarding them because they don't do what you want them to do is as juvenile as using them in place of an argument. I don't yell at nazis because they're on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me. I do it because they are actual garbage.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Neoteny wrote:mrswdk wrote:What are the uses of dividing people up into 'left' and 'right' then?
They're loose terms describing common political trends.
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